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Biggest black hole in the cosmos discovered (18 billion suns)
New Scientist ^ | 1/10/08 | David Shiga

Posted on 01/10/2008 12:52:18 PM PST by LibWhacker


The quasar OJ287 contains two black holes (this
slightly dated illustration lists the larger black hole's
mass as 17 billion Suns, though researchers now estimate
it is 18 billion Suns). The smaller black hole crashes
through a disc of material around the larger one twice
every orbit, creating bright outbursts (Illustration:
VISPA)

The most massive known black hole in the universe has been discovered, weighing in with the mass of 18 billion Suns. Observing the orbit of a smaller black hole around this monster has allowed astronomers to test Einstein's theory of general relativity with stronger gravitational fields than ever before.

(Excerpt) Read more at space.newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; bigbang; biggest; black; blackhole; dividebyzero; doomsday; gammaraybursts; gigo; haltonarp; hole; science; space; stringtheory; supernova
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To: SolidWood

Women and children would be hardest hit. Especially suns.


21 posted on 01/10/2008 1:08:20 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: HamiltonJay

Blackholes have immense mass, right? The forces of the smaller one, as it catapults about the larger one, might just be enough to counter the pull for a million or so orbits.


22 posted on 01/10/2008 1:09:08 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Mikey_1962

Did the dirty crack originate on Ura**s?


23 posted on 01/10/2008 1:09:13 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: HamiltonJay

***Why hasn’t the smaller been completely swallowed by the larger?***

My question precisely. Unless, the smaller mass has more density by virtue of its diminuition.


24 posted on 01/10/2008 1:09:18 PM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's reward.)
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To: LibWhacker

18 Billion Suns = 18 GigaSuns? Is a standard Sun a unit of measure?


25 posted on 01/10/2008 1:09:29 PM PST by G L Tirebiter
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To: CarrotAndStick

Or maybe the universe will have a divide by zero error and we’ll all see the Blue Screen of Death.


26 posted on 01/10/2008 1:09:51 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: LibWhacker

I was trying to think of some sarcastic, witty and clever comment relating this to the size of Herself’s butt or thighs or O’Blama’s coming burnout, etc., but just couldn’t stretch it long enough.

The universe is one big mother.

OK, is this big black hole as dangerous to existance as all leftism and socialism?

I personally have decided that leftism is the most dangerous force in the universe. It destroys everything.

So there.


27 posted on 01/10/2008 1:09:53 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: LibWhacker

Is he running for office?


28 posted on 01/10/2008 1:10:48 PM PST by Beckwith (Dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: weegee
Any daughter stars?

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29 posted on 01/10/2008 1:11:23 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: garyhope

30 posted on 01/10/2008 1:11:51 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: LonePalm

There’s a dog star...


31 posted on 01/10/2008 1:12:20 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: cripplecreek

I read an article recently that said that when two black holes merge, one-third of the total mass is converted into pure energy. In this case, the energy locked up in the mass of six billion Suns. Presumably, that energy escapes during the collision, though I can’t imagine how. The mind boggles... I don’t know if a million light years would even be a safe distance... Anyone?


32 posted on 01/10/2008 1:13:30 PM PST by LibWhacker (Democrats are phony Americans)
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To: LibWhacker

This black hole is a whole lot of nothing.


33 posted on 01/10/2008 1:13:55 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: advertising guy
how in hell do they know there are 18 billion?
Good questions. Also, why is the more "massive" black hole illustrated as a larger black cirlce and the smaller black hole as a smaller black circle. The way I understood black holes, all accretion goes into a singularity that is by all indications, smaller than an atom. So, shouldn't both black holes be illustrated as being the same size? Perhaps they need a different way of illustrating weight for celestial bodies.
34 posted on 01/10/2008 1:15:01 PM PST by adorno
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To: LibWhacker

I would have thought the biggest black hole in the universe was either Barack Obama, Jesse Jackson, or Al Sharpton.


35 posted on 01/10/2008 1:15:14 PM PST by hellbender
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To: G L Tirebiter

Yes, it is. Astronomers often speak in terms of how many solar masses an object contains: black holes, giant stars, galaxies, etc.


36 posted on 01/10/2008 1:15:53 PM PST by LibWhacker (Democrats are phony Americans)
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To: weegee

Why yes, and it has the mass of 18 billion moons.


37 posted on 01/10/2008 1:15:56 PM PST by ovrtaxt (In my fantasy world, the Dems run a Zell Miller/ Lieberman ticket...)
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To: wastedyears
Now you've done it !!!

That idiot O'reilly will label us racist again because YOU mentioned Obama in a thread about black holes. /sarcasm

Nam Vet

38 posted on 01/10/2008 1:17:56 PM PST by Nam Vet (Timely reporting from Attila's right flank)
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To: adorno

I thought blackholes had a difference in mass, depending on the amount of matter that went into it... more mass absorbed = more massive blackhole, with bigger gravity effects surrounding it.


39 posted on 01/10/2008 1:18:12 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: G L Tirebiter
Is a standard Sun a unit of measure?

In fact it is. Although it's usually called a 'solar mass' in astronomy. The sun is used to determine the necessary mass for stellar ignition, calculating novas, neutron stars, supernovas, black holes, etc.

It's the closest, most observable frame of reference we have.
40 posted on 01/10/2008 1:19:13 PM PST by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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