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Tourists To Look for Ancient Persian Army
Discovery Channel | 2/16/04 | Rossella Lorenzi

Posted on 02/16/2004 2:37:05 PM PST by freedom44

Feb. 12, 2004 — Tourists traversing Egypt's desert may solve a mystery that has puzzled archaeologists for centuries: what happened to the 50,000-man Persian army of King Cambyses.

Set up by tourist operator Aqua Sun Desert, the Cambyses project will comb the desert sands using four-wheel-drive vehicles packed with paying tourists eager to find the remains of the lost army swallowed in a sandstorm in 524 B.C., according to the account of the ancient Greek historian Herodotus.

"The project is approved by the Ministry of Tourism after the agreement of Ministry of Antiquities. Any evidence will have to be reported to the authorities," Hisham Nessim, manager of Aqua Sun Desert, told Discovery News.

Running between 10 and 22 days, the desert safari expeditions will follow a special route in the Western Desert, one of the world's most beautiful and inhospitable deserts.

Particular attention will be given to an area not far from the Siwa oasis near the Libyan boarder, where four years ago a team of Egyptian geologists stumbled on bits of metal resembling weapons, as well as fragments of human bones.

First thrilled by the news, scholars then reacted with skepticism.

"As nothing was published and no pictures released it is hard to tell whether those were the remains of the lost army. Skeletons can belong to anyone, and without a thorough anthropological study, or any accompanying artifacts, it is hard to judge these allegations," Egyptologist Salima Ikram of the American University in Cairo told Discovery News.

Herodotus reported that after the Persian occupation of Egypt in 525 B.C., Cambyses, the son of Cyrus the Great, sent 50,000 soldiers west from Thebes to attack the Oasis of Siwa and destroy the oracle at the Temple of Amun, who, according to legend, would have predicted his death.

After walking for seven days in the desert, the army got to El-Khargeh, presumably intending to follow the caravan route via the Dakhla Oasis and Farafra Oasis to Siwa.

But after they left El-Khargeh, they were never seen again.

"As they were at their midday meal, a wind arose from the south, strong and deadly, bringing with it vast columns of whirling sand, which entirely covered up the troops and caused them wholly to disappear," Herodotus wrote.

The sandstorm was probably caused by the khamsin — the hot, strong, unpredictable southeasterly wind that blows from the Sahara desert over Egypt.

Nessim will continue the Cambyses expeditions for the next five years.

"If we discover anything about the lost army, it will be the discovery of the century," he said.

According to Ikram, there might be a chance that tourists find something in the desert.

"There is a lot there. Whether or not it has anything to do with the Persians in Egypt is unpredictable. More likely not, but who knows," Ikram said.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: archaeology; cambyses; egypt; elkhargeh; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; herodotus; history; lostarmy; pereset; persianempire

1 posted on 02/16/2004 2:37:05 PM PST by freedom44
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To: farmfriend
ping
2 posted on 02/16/2004 2:37:16 PM PST by freedom44
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To: freedom44
It is amazing that they could put together a force of 50,000 troops, provision them and supply them on a march like this.
3 posted on 02/16/2004 2:56:16 PM PST by Blue Screen of Death (,/i)
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To: freedom44; *Gods, Graves, Glyphs; A.J.Armitage; abner; adam_az; AdmSmith; Alas Babylon!; ...
Gods, Graves, Glyphs
List for articles regarding early civilizations , life of all forms, - dinosaurs - etc.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this ping list.

4 posted on 02/16/2004 5:50:58 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: freedom44
Four posts on this thread and no one has posted the "comb the desert" picture from Mel Brooks' Spaceballs yet? I'm amazed. Seriously that sounds like a fascinating trip - definitely an interesting answer if someone asks "What did you do on your vacation?" when you get back to the office.
5 posted on 02/16/2004 5:57:48 PM PST by Moonmad27 (Only that day dawns to which we are awake - Thoreau)
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To: shaggy eel
Uh-oh...another "moving day" approaches.

Maybe we should go on the trip with them...and make sure they don't find our inventory again. It seemed like such a good idea at the time to hide it under those old skeletons and helmets and stuff.

Here we go again. Why us ?! They even came to Mars ! What is it with these humans...can't a typing eel and dog have any business secrets? I remember you saying..."nobody would look under so many humin skelingtons out here...just to dig up our slot machines and loaded roulette wheels..!"...well, I guess they would if they were looking for a bunch of old skelingtons in the first place. Who'd of figured ?!!!
6 posted on 02/16/2004 6:04:01 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." -- Twain)
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To: freedom44
I wonder if anyone has considered a complete desertion of the army. (Just spread to the four winds)
7 posted on 02/16/2004 6:06:09 PM PST by blam
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To: PoorMuttly
,,, mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the noon day sun.

How long have you been an Englishman?

8 posted on 02/16/2004 6:10:17 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
Let's see now....first I got distemper...hmmm...almost as long as I've been a dog.
9 posted on 02/16/2004 6:24:34 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." -- Twain)
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To: PoorMuttly
distemper

,,, ya want fleas with that?

10 posted on 02/16/2004 6:26:16 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
No thanks..I already ate.
11 posted on 02/16/2004 6:35:30 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." -- Twain)
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To: freedom44
Tourists traversing Egypt's desert may solve a mystery that has puzzled archaeologists for centuries: what happened to the 50,000-man Persian army of King Cambyses.

Well, let's not panic. I'm sure they'll be along presently.

12 posted on 02/16/2004 6:37:00 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: PoorMuttly

13 posted on 02/16/2004 6:39:33 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
I don't trust Journalism Majors.

Hey shaggy...we're going to get in trouble with the humans again if we don't say something intelligent about the subject.

OK...if they find the army...which we know is definitely not there...so no reason to look...trust us....will they notify their next of kin? More importamtly...can a dog get in trouble for gnawing on bones he didn't know were there...uh...this isn't working out well....
14 posted on 02/16/2004 6:53:09 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." -- Twain)
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To: PoorMuttly
can a dog get in trouble for gnawing on bones he didn't know were there

,,, what did you know and when did you show it?

15 posted on 02/16/2004 6:56:14 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: freedom44
four years ago a team of Egyptian geologists stumbled on bits of metal resembling weapons, as well as fragments of human bones.
Rommell's troops remains maybe?
16 posted on 02/16/2004 7:26:24 PM PST by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb.....................It's where the fruit is.)
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To: freedom44
"As they were at their midday meal, a wind arose from the south, strong and deadly, bringing with it vast columns of whirling sand, which entirely covered up the troops and caused them wholly to disappear," Herodotus wrote.

If this is what happened, then who was left to report it?

17 posted on 02/17/2004 10:38:13 AM PST by curmudgeonII (Quitters never lose and cheaters always win.)
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To: blam
I agree...desertion makes more sense.
18 posted on 02/17/2004 2:55:50 PM PST by ruoflaw
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