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vanity ^ | March 19 2019 | little jeremiah

Posted on 03/19/2019 5:52:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah

Many FReepers have knowledge to share about improving and maintaining health and would like to share it and learn from others; and others may not know much yet but want to learn. Some of us don't have much money for good insurance or doctors, some want to try other methods besides prescription meds, and some have experience in treating and solving health problems.

More and more "regular" doctors have accepted treatment methods such as the benefits of acupuncture, massage for many conditions, better diet, use of herbs and so on. There are limits, and often side effects, to some standard medical efforts.

My field is Ayurvedic herbalism and related measures, and have a lot of information I can post when I have time. I have seen herbs and sometimes dietary changes help people (including myself) with issues such as rheumatoid arthritis, high BP, gallstones, kidneystones, repeated boils, UTIs, prostate problems, insomnia, allergies, urinary incontinence, and many more. I hope to learn a lot from others with their knowledge and experience.

There are many "old fashioned" home care methods that were in common use a few generations ago that actually work and are cheap, such as castor oil packs, fomentations using alternating hot and cold water, and the like, which are easy to do. I am sure there is a lot of knowledge here on Free Republic that can be shared.

I would like this thread to stay civil without distruption, so my request is that people who think natural health methods are bunkum, make your own thread.


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To: aMorePerfectUnion

The cell salt that can help some ringing in the ears is:

Cell Salt #6: Kali Phos

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I’m going to get some, thanks for posting that. I’ve had tinnitus since 2001 and I wouldn’t mind getting rid of it.


1,841 posted on 02/25/2024 7:28:55 PM PST by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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To: little jeremiah

Worth a try.
I bought 2 books about cell salts.
There is a bunch of stuff online too.
Would you like me to get you some info on usage?


1,842 posted on 02/25/2024 7:49:40 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Well... any info you post that would be useful that would be great. There are so many health issues discussed on the thread over the years, plus others not addressed. If you have knowledge in this field, great. I know nuttin about homeopathy other than what a couple of docs have given me over the years.


1,843 posted on 02/25/2024 7:54:20 PM PST by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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To: Qathleen

Hmm, benign tumors. Seems that could interfere with thyroid function. I remember one herb that can help reduce benign tumors, I”ll try to post tomorrow.


1,844 posted on 02/25/2024 7:56:22 PM PST by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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Sources for herbs for Parkinson’s (and these herbs do so much more, info up the thread).
Bala

Kapi Kacchu
Mucuna Seed
https://www.starwest-botanicals.com/product/mucuna-seed-powder-organic/

Ashwagandha
https://www.starwest-botanicals.com/product/ashwagandha-root-powder-organic/

Bala - I can only find in capsules, used to buy by the pound.
https://vadikherbs.com/products/bala-capsules?_pos=1&_sid=5ed08a6a0&_ss=r


1,845 posted on 02/25/2024 7:58:57 PM PST by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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To: little jeremiah

It’s an interesting space between homeopathy and cell salts, which every body must have to function.

I will try to get you some info tomorrow. Turning in for the night now.

Best


1,846 posted on 02/25/2024 8:02:30 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mazey; dkGba; pollywog; nanetteclaret; outinyellowdogcountry; rebelskid; MS.BEHAVIN; SisterK; ...

Pinging the list - scroll up to find info on Parkinson’s if you didn’t see it already; I just posted sources for those herbs. Also info and sources for herbs to help thyroid function, ditto for the lymphatic system, and info about tinnitus.


1,847 posted on 02/25/2024 8:02:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Oh! I thought they were the same thing. Revealing my ignorance! Have a good night.


1,848 posted on 02/25/2024 8:03:01 PM PST by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks for all your hard work.


1,849 posted on 02/26/2024 10:27:12 AM PST by sweetiepiezer (WINNING is not getting old!!! ❤️USA❤️)
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To: little jeremiah

mark!!


1,850 posted on 02/26/2024 2:13:07 PM PST by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: Mazey; dkGba; pollywog; nanetteclaret; outinyellowdogcountry; rebelskid; MS.BEHAVIN; SisterK; ...

Pinging the list to tinnitis info.

I’ve had it for more than 20 years, DH has it I think on/off, and it is not uncommon. A FReeper mentioned a possible homeopathic remedy, so I just searched. There are several, depending on specific symptoms. So, here goes! I will figure out which one or ones might work for myself and DH and report back. If anyone tries any of them, let us know how it goes.

https://www.drhomeo.com/tinnitus/homeopathic-remedies-for-tinnitus/

Tinnitus is the condition where a person hears noises in the ear without the presence of any external sound. This condition can affect either one ear or both the ears. Affected people also mention symptoms like the ‘change of side (or ear)’ from where the sounds are coming, as well as the intensity, pitch, volume, and type of sound. In a few cases, symptoms like vertigo, difficulty in hearing, discharge from ear and fullness/heaviness in the ears are also present. Homeopathic medicines for tinnitus can help decrease the severity of the symptoms and also treat the condition on a long-term basis.
People dealing with tinnitus often develop other conditions like depression, anxiety, insomnia, stress and difficulty in concentrating as a result of hearing constant sounds. According to a report published in the journal Frontiers in Neurology (2014), ‘many patients have suggested that their distress is an inevitable consequence of the psychophysical characteristics of tinnitus.’

Different people hear different sounds when afflicted with tinnitus. Some common sounds associated with the condition are ringing, buzzing, hissing, roaring, and whistling.

Is There a Homeopathic cure for Tinnitus?
There are no conventional drugs available to cure tinnitus completely. In most cases, tinnitus may develop as a result of some other underlying issue. Certain drugs are used to reduce the complications or severity of tinnitus. Other methods involve suppressing the symptoms with the help of noise-masking contraptions. While they do provide a certain degree of relief from the symptoms of tinnitus, they rarely treat the problem. Often, discontinuation of these treatment options leads to worsening of the condition. Side-effects of drugs used in these cases can also be severe, and more often than not, a person has to try out different medicines to find the ones that suit them and cause less-severe side effects. Fixing the problem from the root cause is the surest way to manage and treat tinnitus.

A Natural Remedy For Tinnitus
Being an ancient, 200-year-old medical art, and science that was founded by German physician Samuel Hahnemann way back in the 1700s, the cures used in homeopathy are derived from nature and thus devoid of toxins. Naturally occurring substances are used to make the remedies, which work in harmony with the system. These also help restore the natural healing processes of the body.

It has No Side-Effects
Homeopathy for tinnitus does not cause any side effects because of their extremely diluted nature, and the fact that they are made of natural substances. Conventional drugs that contain tricyclic antidepressants are used only to manage severe tinnitus since the side-effects of these can be debilitating. Some side effects include blurred vision, heart problems, constipation, and dry mouth. Another commonly used drug called alprazolam helps reduce the symptoms of tinnitus, but it too comes with side effects like nausea and drowsiness. This drug also causes dependency and can be habit-forming.

Holistic Approach
Another advantage is that homeopathy aims to cure the problem from the root. Instead of suppressing the symptoms of a disorder, homeopathy takes into account all the associated symptoms and offers a comprehensive treatment approach. Noise-masking contraptions like noise-cancellation machines or solutions like hearing aids only suppress the symptoms and provide temporary relief. These are more like supplementary solutions and do not treat the main problem.

Individualized Cure
Individualisation is the key to homeopathy treatment. Every person is treated as a unique individual with their own set of symptoms rather than being classified into a category. This aspect of focussing on the individual symptoms is an important criterion in the case of tinnitus since tinnitus is a condition that develops due to a variety of reasons. To find the correct solution, it is necessary to know the exact cause of the problem. In some cases, tinnitus occurs due to a blockage or obstruction within the inner ear, while in others, it may be a side-effect of a drug. These two cases cannot be treated with one medicine. Individual treatment for every case is therefore necessary, and this is the very basis of homeopathy.

Similarly, different people hear different types of sounds as a result of tinnitus and require different medicines. For example, for drumming sounds inside the ears, Lachesis Muta is indicated, while for humming sounds, China Officinalis is used.

Simple and Effective
The fact that a homeopath individually selects every medicine prescribed to a patient makes homeopathy a simple yet effective course of treatment. A blanket approach of prescribing the same medicine for every patient clubbed under tinnitus is not followed. A single dose of the correct medicine can have a lasting effect for months or even years.

The first course of treatment for tinnitus involves identifying underlying causes and screening the treatable conditions. This includes measures like cleaning excessive earwax, changing medications or surgical intervention. With homeopathy, invasive treatments like surgery can be held off since there are different treatment options available to fix internal problems naturally.

A Safe Option
Natural remedies for tinnitus have given proven results in treating cases where the symptoms are mild to moderate. In case of a severe tinnitus problem, homeopathy can help reduce the severity and recurrence of the symptoms. Conventional treatments for tinnitus that involve the use of drugs or masking techniques may not be suitable across all ages. Children and adults alike are susceptible to side-effects from drugs, and this treatment option is rarely recommended for children. Homeopathy works in harmony with the body by restoring the natural healing processes. It can be used safely to treat tinnitus in people of all age groups.

Further, these remedies also help treat accompanying symptoms like vertigo, ear discharges, fullness/heaviness in the ears and conditions linked to Meniere’s disease. The duration of homeopathy treatments for tinnitus varies from person to person, although in most cases, gradual improvement over a given period has been noted. The chances of a relapse of the condition, once the treatment has been successfully administered, are next to none.

Homeopathic Remedies for Tinnitus
Remedies that are effective in treating tinnitus are Kali Mur, Natrum Salicylicum, Chenopodium Anthelmenticum and Chininum Sulph. Chosen carefully on the merits of the indications they can be the perfect homeopathic relief for tinnitus

1. Kali Mur- Top Grade Natural Medicine for Tinnitus
Kali Mur is used to treat tinnitus where there is an excessive buildup or discharge of mucus in the nose or throat area. A history of long-standing ear discharges (otorrhea) is also indicative of this medicine. Popping and crackling noises in the ear are typical, and the latter sounds get worse upon swallowing. Deafness from ear catarrh is also possible.

2. Natrum Salicylicum- For Vertigo and Tinnitus
Natrum Salicylicum is used to treat tinnitus that develops as a result of Meniere’s disease, where a triad of symptoms including noises in the ear, hearing loss, and vertigo appears. The sounds are low in tone and almost constant. Vertigo gets worse on sitting up or rising from bed and lying down provides relief. This is an excellent medicine for vertigo and tinnitus

3. Chenopodium Anthelminticum – For Tinnitus with Sudden spells of Vertigo
is used to treat tinnitus where there are sudden spells of vertigo. The person may be able to hear high pitched sounds but be deaf to human sounds. The noises in the ear in these cases are mainly buzzing, ringing or roaring in nature. Tinnitus synchronous with heartbeats is another feature indicating the need for this medicine.

4. Graphites Naturalis- For Ear Tinnitus when Hissing and Buzzing sounds are present
is used to treat cases of somatic tinnitus, where the symptoms of tinnitus worsen when there is a movement of the head and jaw. The noises in the ear are mainly hissing, buzzing, whistling or roaring in nature. In some cases, cracking sounds in the ears are present. A feeling of ‘stuffed ear’ and dryness in the ears also indicates the need for this medicine.

5. Chininum Sulph- For Ringing In Ear
is used in cases of tinnitus where intense sounds of varies kinds of ringing, roaring, and buzzing are present. Vertigo and a decline in the hearing ability also indicate the need for this medicine. In some cases, a severe headache may be present. Chininum Sulph is also used as an effective homeopathic remedy for Meniere’s disease.

Remedies For Specific Noises
Tinnitus can cause a person to hear different sounds within the ear, and these sounds vary from case to case. Among the many sounds that a person hears inside the ear as a result of tinnitus, the most common ones include buzzing, roaring, whistling, hissing, humming, chirping, drumming, flapping, fluttering, machine-like, waterfall-like, ringing sounds and sounds of the wind. There are specific remedies that are used to treat these sounds.

Petroleum Oleum is used to treat tinnitus where there are ringing noises in ears. There is clear bell-like sound in the ear. Other symptoms include dryness, intense itching deep in the ear. People who cannot tolerate the sound of several people talking together, and elderly persons dealing with deafness are often treated with this medicine.

Formica Rufa is used to treat tinnitus where buzzing noises in the ear are present. Pain in the ear and hardness of hearing are also common. The pain may radiate to the temporal region of the head. In most cases, earache gets worse in the morning, and the ears may feel hot and be sensitive to touch.

Salicylicum Acidum is used to treat tinnitus where there are roaring sounds in the ear. The hearing may be diminished, and the person may experience episodes of vertigo. Nausea and a sensation of blood rushing to the brain may also be present.
This medicine is also used to treat Meniere’s disease, tinnitus due to influenza and cases where tinnitus occurs as a result of consuming the drug ‘aspirin.’

Manganum Aceticum is used to treat tinnitus where whistling noises are heard within the ear. Other symptoms include hardness of hearing that gets worse in damp weather, an obstructed sensation in the ears and shooting pain that gets worse upon speaking or laughing.

Silicea is used to treat tinnitus where there are hissing sounds inside the ear. Other symptoms include a blocked sensation in the ear, shooting pain, hardness of hearing, sensitivity to cold air and presence of discharges. These discharges can be purulent (pus-like), blood-stained and may have a fetid odor. A history of a perforated ear-drum is also present in some cases.

China Officinalis is used to treat tinnitus where there are humming noises in the ear. These are accompanied by a stitching/tearing pain in the ears that worsens with touch. There may be overall weakness, debility, and headache. This medicine is also used in cases where a ticking noise is heard inside the ears.

Bryonia Alba is used to treat tinnitus with chirping noises inside the ear. The ear may feel blocked, intolerance towards noises in the environment may be present along with spells of vertigo.
A deep, stitching or shooting pain that gets worse in the open air may be present. The ear is usually sensitive to touch. This medicine works well to treat cases of tinnitus where a person hears a particular sound, like the pouring of water over a dam.

Lachesis Muta is used to treat where there are drumming sounds in the ear. A decrease in hearing along with excessive dryness and hardness of the ear wax is present. The ear is sensitive towards the wind. The ear may feel stiff, and pain may develop towards the evening or night time.

Antimonium Tart is used to treat tinnitus where there are fluttering or flapping noises in the ear. A prominent warm sensation inside the ear, twitching and tearing pain in the ear during the evening is also present.

Hydrastis Canadensis is used to treat tinnitus where there is a machinery-like sound inside the ear. There may be a thick mucus discharge from the ear, and a sensation of fullness in the in the forehead may also be present.

Causticum is used to treat tinnitus where a re-echo of words is heard in the ear. Other symptoms include a pulsating, burning sensation in the ear, pressure in the head and ears, and a purulent, gluey/sticky ear discharge along with an excessive accumulation of the ear wax is also present in some cases.

Theridion Curassavicum is used to treat tinnitus where there are noises of a waterfall present in the ear. The person also experiences sensitivity along with pressure and fullness in the ears.

Pulsatilla Nigricans is used to treat tinnitus where there are sounds of the wind inside the ear. Difficulty in hearing in cold and damp weather, earache, and chronic ear infection with a thick yellowish-greenish colored discharge indicate the need for this medicine.

Managing Tinnitus
Prevention is the cure here – protecting the ear, staying away from loud sounds or using earplugs or noise cancellation earphones in noisy areas, assessing other risk factors that may contribute to the condition are some ways to prevent the symptoms of tinnitus from getting worse.

Causes and Risk Factors
Many conditions can give rise to tinnitus. Although prolonged exposure to loud sounds is the most common cause, other reasons for tinnitus include age-related hearing loss, Meniere’s disease, high blood pressure, head or neck injuries, build-up of excessive ear wax, ear infections, temporomandibular joint (TMJ) problems, emotional or chronic stress and excessive intake of alcohol. Tinnitus is also more common in males as compared to females.

Second section headings, not copying but click above link and scroll down if interested.

Specific Conditions that lead to Tinnitus

Risk Factors for Developing Tinnitus

Lifestyle-Related Factors

Tinnitus – Frequently Asked Questions


1,851 posted on 03/11/2024 3:29:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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To: little jeremiah

I’d try the Kali Mur first, if it were me.
I’ve come to like cell salt remedies.


1,852 posted on 03/11/2024 3:33:43 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Aha, I thought you were the one. I will try it. I’m tired of the constant hiss etc although I’ve learned to tolerate/ignore it. I wouldn’t mind if it went away!


1,853 posted on 03/11/2024 3:46:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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To: little jeremiah

It seems to offer the both of both world - being an actual cell salt + a 6x homeopathic.

It may not work, but it is worth a shot. Cheap. accessible. tastes good. disolves quickly.

It will depend on the cause of the tinnitus.

If it is a physical thing like a misaligned atlas vertebrae, you will need alignment from a chiropractor.
If the misalignment is caused by fascia pulling the vertebrae out of place, you will need someone who does fascia release.
If it is an infection in the inner ear, you could try the Lysine I posted above.
There are other avenues of approach too.

If it were me, I’d try the cell salt.
3x per day for a few months, since it is a long term thing - according to the book I purchased.

Hoping it helps you!


1,854 posted on 03/11/2024 3:52:39 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: little jeremiah

Very timely for me. Where do in get these products?


1,855 posted on 03/11/2024 7:53:08 PM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: outinyellowdogcountry

Sorry I didn’t reply sooner! I wish I knew, I found the article and copied it. I plan to look into these, also the Kali Phos, as I am sick of constant tinnitis.


1,856 posted on 03/31/2024 12:39:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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To: Mazey; dkGba; pollywog; nanetteclaret; outinyellowdogcountry; rebelskid; MS.BEHAVIN; SisterK; ...

Pinging the list (freepmail to get on/off). Posting the first of a series of herbs for migraines. More shortly.

Migraines

Peppermint

Dosage: 1-30 grams per day (dry herb made into tea) or 10-30 drops of tincture. I use peppermint EO as well, for external use.

Tissues: plasma, blood, muscle, nerve, and marrow

Systems: digestive, respiratory, nervous, circulatory

Properties: stimulant, carminative, diaphoretic, nervine, analgesic, anti-spasmodic

Indications: indigestion, heartburn, colds, influenza, fever, coughs, sore throat, laryngitis, headaches, dysmenorrheya, flatulence, cramps, colic, sinus congestion, nausea, nervoiusness, morning sickness, motion sickness, inflammation, colitis, Crohn’s disease

Peppermint soothes digestive complaints and refreshes the mind and nervous system. It helps reduce excess mucus in the respirtory and GI tracts. It stimulates the bile and digestive juices, is one of the best carminative and anti-spasmodic herbs. For discomfort with irritable or inflammatory bowel disorders, it can be combined with herbs like Shatavari, Marshmallow, and Licorice.

It helps to relieve fevers and other symptoms of colds and influenza. It is quite effective for relieving headaches caused by excess pitta (internal heat), especially migraines. It can be combined with cooling nerviness like skullcap, gotu kola or feverfew. Pepperment EO can be applied to the temples for temporary relief of headaches. Best to blend with a small amount of carrier oil like coconut or almond, although I have applied it neat. Be careful with eyes!
I used to get horrible headaches regularly, were likely migraines, and used to rub Tiger Balm and other like substances on my forehead and temples; the camphor and menthol helped.

For headaches Peppermint EO can be blended with other cooling EOs like sandalwood, rose (very pricey now) or nutmeg.

Peppermint helps relieve anxiety, stress, and nervous tension, and is often used in blends as an assisting or harmonizing herbs. I use powdered peppermint herb in several formulas, for the mind, brain, and digestion, as well as in tooth powder, and always have dried peppermint on hand for tea.

Some years ago a neighbor called up with horrible back pain and asked if I had anything to help, he knows I am an herbalist. He has had many injuries, has metal things in his neck, etc. I asked if he had any peppermint EO on hand, of course he didn’t. I asked if he had any peppermint flavor in the kitchen, and he did. I told him to rub it on the painful area and on the spine.

It worked like magic.


1,857 posted on 03/31/2024 12:45:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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I humbly admit I have never used this herb, but after reading about it, I want some and will recommend to a client/friend who suffers from headaches and other reactions to chemicals and artificial perfumes.

Feverfew

Dosage 3-9 grams per day, in cold infusion (soak in cold water), or 30-60 drops of tincture

Tissues: Plasma and blood

Properties: antipyretic, anti-inflammatory, vasodilator, relaxant, uterine stimulant, carminative, bitter tonic, purgative (oops watch out…)

Indications: headache, colds, influenza, allergies, cough, difficult breathing, PMS, migraines, arthritis, insect bites, scanty menstrual flow.

Precautions: pregnancy, or using it while taking anti-coagulant drugs

Feverfew is useful for relieving headaches, especially those affiliated with the hot, sharp and penetrating qualities of pitta (fire element), in the blood, as is common in migraines. It is also useful for headaches triggered by a strong reaction to chemical odors or synthetic perfumes. It is a good relaxant herb for those with a great deal of stress and tension, and combines well with herbs like gotu kola.

A tea of the leaves and flowers with added honey is good for relieving coughs, bronchial wheezing, and symptoms related to common colds and flu. A mild uterine stimulant, it can aid in cases of scanty menstrual flow, cramping and PMS symptoms. A digestive bitter, can also be effective in relieving pain and inflammation during arthritis flare-ups.


1,858 posted on 03/31/2024 12:57:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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Other Herbs for Migraines

Bacopa [in brief, I think I posted about it before]
Dosage: 3-6 grams a day (I have a Bacopa powder) Use as a tea (drink it all up!)

Systems: nervous, circulatory, digestive

Properties: nervine, alterative, anti-inflammatory, antispasmodic, anti-convulsant, diuretic

Indications: nervous disorders, mental disorders, epilepsy, senility, ADHD, Apserger’s syndrome, autism, recover from addictions, premature aging, anger, headaches, migraines, irritability, adrenal insufficiency (and more!)

One of Ayurveda’s most respected rejuvenating tonics for the mind and nervous system. Kindles the flame of intelligence in the brain, regular use promotes cellular regeneration, thus slowing the aging process, helps to sharpen the intellect, improve concentration and memory.

Both a sedative and rejuvenating tonic for the nervous system, helps buffer and protect against burnout and general fatigue caused by stress and overwork. Can be combined with other herbs for the mind and nervous system such as Scullcap, Shankpushpi, and Vacha (Calamus), or Ashwagandha for calming.
For headaches, especially migraines, can be combined with herbs such as Peppermint, Feverfew, Gotu Kola and Gingko. (I have never used Gingko and am trying to locate it in powder form)

Calamus (Vacha)
(I use this in formulas for the mind and brain function)

Dosage: powder 1-6 grams per day, Tincture 15-45 drops per day
Tissues: plasma, muscle, fat, marrow, nerve

Systems: nervous, respiratory, circulatory, digestive

Properties: Expectorant, decongestant, stimulant, nervine, antispasmodic, emetic (you’d have to take a lot at once),
carminative, rejuvenative

Indications: sinus headaches, anxiety, memory loss, tinnitus, deafness, epilepsy, coma, arthritis, coughs, digestive disorders.

Calamus is a mental rasayana (rejuvenatve) that promotes awareness, focus, clarity and memory. One of the most powerful rejuvenative for the brain and nervous system, is used to treat hysteria, neuralgia, nervous tension, hemiplegia (headache on one side of the head), and epilepsy.

Helpful for speech impediments including loss of speech due to stroke. The powder made into a paste and applied to the forehead can help alleviate headaches. Considered to be purifying to the channels of the body (nadis/chi meridians). Is considered to help balance brain function.


1,859 posted on 03/31/2024 1:48:09 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks , good to know about peppermint.


1,860 posted on 03/31/2024 1:54:33 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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