Posted on 07/01/2017 10:21:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I think this is less a matter of Behar imputing her own morality to Jesus than channeling the broad secular sense of him as a supremely chill dude whose chief virtue is that he Does Not Judge. That’s a weird read on a religious figure who speaks many times of hell in the gospels but that’s our culture, for better or worse.
She may not even be the most confused person here. Two other panelists press Jack Phillips, the baker, on the idea that he’s being judgey with gay couples, with one imagining that Christ might disapprove of their wedding but would tell them “I’m going to love you anyways.” Well … yes, that’s how Christianity works. But the issue, of course, isn’t whether Phillips is “judging” his customers or whether he loves his gay neighbors, it’s whether he should be conscripted by the state into participating in an event which his faith doesn’t condone. The guy’s not claiming that gay couples are less moral than any other variety of sinners, only that the act of marriage between them is a sin which he doesn’t want to be made complicit in. Jedediah Bila asks him at one point if he’d refuse to make cakes for other sinners, like adulterers. She doesn’t get a square answer, but I’m guessing if you asked Phillips to make you a torte for a weekend tryst with your mistress (inscription: “Here’s to Cheating!”), yeah, he’d probably turn you down.
Note, by the way, how often he and especially his lawyer try to steer the conversation away from religion and towards the idea of cake-making as art. At one point the lawyer even describes the wedding cake as a “canvas.” That’s a smart argument legally, as you’re on much firmer ground before the Supreme Court arguing free speech than you are arguing free exercise. If Phillips can convince Anthony Kennedy that Colorado’s antidiscrimination law is essentially compelling him to utter a statement he disagrees with, he’s got a real chance.
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Like a gold ring in a pig snout are words about Jesus from the mouth of Joy Behar.
Kickass Conservative wrote, “I assume Joy will be having some Nazis over to her place for Dinner really soon.”
Actually, KC, her guests would be dining with a Nazi...
It’s irrelevant. Let’s talk about the basics. Having a constitution that limits government and gives individual freedom is a very good thing. Just think if Trump got to pick and choose which parts of the constitution to follow. I know liberalism and logic don’t work well together, but we really need to get them to understand the fundamentals of our government and not look at just the very specific issues/cases they care about at any moment.
1) Do we have freedom of religion in the US? If you don’t want it, we need to talk about “we the people” approving an amendment to get rid of it. It shouldn’t be removed by a few judges and they’d hate Trump to pick the parts to follow.
2) Does this particular exercise of that freedom harm anyone? For example, throwing gays off a building would do harm. “Not baking a cake” won’t do harm unless that makes it difficult to get a cake.
In 1st. century A.D. Judea a gay couple would have been stoned to death.
Joy Behar was just shooting off her mouth. There’s no way she could know one way or another. But this is a good example of how Leftists will say or do anything to advance their agenda; Truth is completely beside the point.
The question here is whether the government is authorized to tell anyone what Jesus would or would not have done. Usually liberals jabber about the “wall of separation” between church and state, except when the state can take over the role of the church and force someone to do what liberals want. Then suddenly the “wall of separation” is a mere trifle, a speedbump.
As He did with the adultress, Jesus would have forgiven their sins and told them to go and sin no more.
Jesus never endorsed behavior that breaks fellowship with God and is contrary to his will.
Joy, since you are an old hag, did you personally knew Jesus? And no not Jesus your illegal landscaper. Ask a Muslim Baker if they will. I bet they will bake it, then eat it AFTER they throw them off the roof to their death.
Yes, He may indeed may have done so.
And he would have then said, “Now - go and sin no more.....”
Don’t you love how atheists are always explaining the Bible.
Which is a lie, "channeled" in the spirit of anti-Christ, that perverts forgiveness of sin into permission to sin.
Luke 17:1-4 7 "If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him.
NIV Matt 19:4-6 4
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Rom 1:25-31
25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator — who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
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I wasn’t aware Joy Behar had become a spokesman for the Son of the Living God.
If one wants to know what Jesus would do, He published a book that lays it all out. She should try reading it.
It's always interesting to hear/read leftie liberals either quoting a Bible verse out of context or presume to know Christian theology when they know nothing about it. But then, they feel that since they're on TV whatever they say is true.
The gay princess class... they are not Mary Magdalenes but more akin to Herodes or his wife
Especially when those same Lefties are themselves hostile to Judeo-Christian belief.
It really shows them the idiots they are. I just glance over what they say for my daily comedy relief. Some things they say leave me speechless - which makes some folks I know happy.
VERY important declaration about justification. Based on going into the promised land and annihilating the natives for practicing child sacrifice. That same standard of invasion and conquest was also to be kept by the Israelites. They failed and they were invaded and conquered.
That standard has not changed because it is God’s standard for ALL nations. Child sacrifice is a line that can never be crossed and is not forgiven. Native Americans practiced human sacrifice, too. America has fallen that way. All but 5 or 6 nations have crossed the line. It is why the Day of the LORD is a day of wrath.
There can be a reprieve with national repentence (changing of laws in our case) but only one reprieve is given.
“Surely at the command (mouth) of the LORD it came upon Judah, to remove them from His sight because of the sins of Manasseh, according to all that he had done, and also for the innocent blood which he shed, for he filled Jerusalem with innocent blood; AND THE LORD WOULD NOT FORGIVE.” (All caps mine) 2 Kings 24:3 & 4
Christ always loved and associated with sinners, especially of the worst kind. He did not however indulge in their sins or promote them to continue sinning.
“Go and sin no more” is something the commie left never seems to remember about Christ’s infinite mercy. They sieze on “your sins are forgiven” and conveniently forget “Go and sin no more”.
No, Christ would not have made a cake for homosexuals. He would have cured them of their disease.
Indeed!
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