Carolina Bays (500,000 of these along the east coast of the US)
Posted on 10/19/2004 11:13:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Given the reality of the dark spots, which soon became known as "atmospheric holes" because of their appearance in the images, there is only one explanation which has endured over all these years to present. That is, the holes are due to the shadowing of the atmospheric light by an object above the atmosphere. This object simply cannot be a stony or iron meteor because the holes are very large, tens of miles in diameter. A rock of this size would provide a disastrous impact on the Earth's surface. As it turns out, water vapor is very good at absorbing the atmospheric light and thus appearing as a atmospheric hole in the images taken by the spacecraft camera. The only other step in the interpretation is to note that a cloud of water vapor will have only a brief existence in interplanetary space so that it must be delivered to Earth as a small comet filled with water snow which is disrupted and expands as it impacts into our atmosphere.
(Excerpt) Read more at smallcomets.physics.uiowa.edu ...
Carolina Bays (500,000 of these along the east coast of the US)
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I also went back and, ahem, took a look at the original posted item. Very cool! Water balloons in space? Next thing you know the planet will get "wrapped"! Anyway, the notion of megatons of water coming to earth from space really gave the pseudo-scientists a case of the vapors. Who then circled their wagons and fought off the heresy til they could no longer resist..........the obvious. At least when the evidence was originally presented('86?), it would seem to be self evident......again to the untrained observer.
The more of these "scientific" links I follow, the stronger my feeling that many/most(?) scientists are pretty much like yellow dog Dimocrats; Don't approach me with facts, my mind's made up! Something seems to have gone awry in the scientific community. But that's not really news since things seem to have gone awry most everywhere.
FGS
Is this activity specific to Earth's orbit?
Is orbital distance then a pre-requisite to habitibility?
Is this happening on Mars? Venus?
Do we see any evidence pro or con for the other planets?
Has anyone reviewed say, Cassini film/photo footage for evidence of such cometary activity?
Would there be similar photographic evidence to help confirm the theory?
It raises a hell of a lot more questions than it answers, IMHO...
Yeah, 's goofy, eh? Last time I checked, Phil Plait of "Bad Astronomy" fame remained in the "not happenin'" camp. :')
Yeah, here's the links for Phil "Bad Astronomy" Plait re Louis Frank:
http://www.badastronomy.com/bitesize/minicomet.html
http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=111647
"Louis Frank is as wrong as wrong can be. I have seen his claims, read papers, and years ago decided his claims are utterly incorrect." -- Phil Plait
Donald Simanek's Page: Cutting Edge ScienceSnowball Comets. In 1986 physicist Louis Frank of the University of Iowa stirred controversy with evidence that the earth gets significant water from impact of icy comets vaporizing in our atmosphere. Now new and more direct evidence.
by Donald Simanek
Sandia scientist, colleague suggestSandia physicist Mark Boslough and Randy Gladstone of the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, Tex., have published a study that provides a less provocative -- but still scientifically interesting -- explanation for the so-called atmospheric holes. They may be plumes, not holes, and meteoroids may be the source. Their computational simulations, which make use of Sandia's shock physics code CTH and Boslough's earlier work with Sandia colleague Dave Crawford in successfully predicting the visible plumes from Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9's impact into Jupiter in 1994, suggest that the entry of ordinary meteoroids can form dark spots very similar to those reportedly observed by the satellite instruments... [T]hey believe that atomic oxygen, which is the source of the dayglow, is momentarily displaced by the passage of meteoroids. Normal air from lower altitudes contains oxygen in its molecular form and is black in the wavelength that the satellite sees. They propose that when a stony object as small as 50 centimeters across collides with the atmosphere and plunges into the lower layers, it ejects a very thin plume of this "black" air to as high as 1,000 kilometers. It is these dark plumes, they suggest, that are being detected by the satellites. Their work is preliminary and they acknowledge that the hypothesis doesn't account for the observed high rate of dark hole formation. But they say if they can show their idea is correct for large meteoroids, they will look into the possibility that small ones have a similar effect.
meteor plumes causing
transient dark spots in upper atmosphere
Sandia National Laboratories
February 10, 1998
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another GGG topic (from the Catastrophism subsection):
When the Days Were Shorter
Alaska Science Forum (Article #742) ^ | November 11, 1985 | Larry Gedney
Posted on 10/04/2004 10:31:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1234919/posts
If this theory is to be believed, wouldn't there necessarily have to be a fireball when something as hard as a meteoroid enters the atmosphere? Maybe I'm missing something obvious here.
FGS
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I expect so. Do you know if the instruments on these observation platforms are able to detect heat and/or visible light(or are these really the same things???) To the layman, it seems there would be additional evidence when/if hard objects are entering the atmosphere. But all I've been able to determine from these articles is that holes(shadows?) are frequently visible(on some wavelength) in the upper atmosphere. And these holes/shadows are NOT in the visible light range??? Is that about right?
FGS
I believe they would not be visible to the naked eye from the ground, but if they were, would appear to be a brighter spot. They show up dark in the part of the spectrum used by the satellites.
One other thing that comes to mind. I'm sure you've seen the clips taken of thunderstorm activity on the dark side of the planet from orbiting spacecraft, I believe, that show what appear to be jets(poor choice of word, but the best that comes to mind) of material escaping FROM the earth. Now it occurs to me that these "jets" could maybe just as easily create a hole/shadow in the atmosphere??? As far as I know, these jets have not been adequately explained. Could they be related?
FGS
Not sure about those jets escaping from the Earth, can you point me in the right direction? :')
These comets go boom, spread out, and all that takes place at high altitudes. The most that could be visible from the ground (at night) might be some optical distortion, that would be my guess. In the daytime, any optical distortion would be very difficult to notice, because of the Sun.
Be glad to; I'm just not sure where to start. I can't even remember where I saw these clips. Most likely Discovery, TLC or even an outside chance on the weather channel. I'll see what I can find.
If I could put it in some perspective, the cameras were taking videos of lightning flashes and there would occasionally be an outward explosion of material shooting off into space seen at the curvature of the earth; on the horizon if you will. Now, I'm not sure, but I think I also heard that high flying aircraft pilots have seen these things, but don't hold me to that.
These comets go boom, spread out, and all that takes place at high altitudes.
Understood, at the outer edge of our atmosphere even.
The most that could be visible from the ground (at night) might be some optical distortion, that would be my guess. In the daytime, any optical distortion would be very difficult to notice, because of the Sun.
I wasn't so much referring to anything being visible from the ground but you raise an interesting point. That is, there should be instruments on the ground similar to those on the satellites that could pick up these anomalies? The more I look at this the curiouser it gets.
FGS
A tiny bump to one of those older style URL topics:
Catastrophic event preceded Dark Ages - scientist
Miscellaneous News Keywords: SCIENCE HISTORY IMAGINATION
Source: Reuters
Posted on 09/08/2000 10:06:44 PDT by VadeRetro
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39b91ca42b27.htm
Justa posted this link:
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a39b91ca42b27.htm#100
My first search brought me to some stills on this site that appear to be very close to the videos I saw. The videos are much more interesting, so I'll keep looking...
Gigantic Jets Observed between a Thundercloud and the Ionosphere
FGS
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