Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
WRONG - January 17, 1964
I’m still on the fence with this issue, but this has to be one of the most jackass posts ever made on FR from a veteran like you.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
1982: Oxford
A 2002 "Certified Copy of a Entry" of Beatle George Harrison's Birth record.
A poor quality copy of John Lennon's certificate:
Typed in 44B 5573 for grins. That is the reference to the page referenced in the “document”. Funny where it took me:
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That would explain my first response to the post. I asked if it was embossed with a schilling.
Sounds right to me. That's why I posted the World Book's information. It can't be changed on-line like wikipedia information can be.
Here's more from the Parliament of Kenya site.
http://www.bunge.go.ke/parliament/history_Steps_2_Independence.php
“Uhuru Day:
The interim period of Internal Self-government, did not witness any major constitutional changes. The constitutional provisions finalized in February, 1963 remained virtually the same.At midnight on December 11, 1963 , Kenya regained Independence from the United Kingdom.”
Exactly. And it doesn't do us any good when level headed FReepers are being shouted down when they come up with evidence and/or explanations that could contradict the validity of the document.
Oh well...
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No Impeachment for Obama. He is not legitimately the president. He would be taken out of office and tried for treason.
He just gets removed if he does not resign gracefully.
Its a real Cluster F%#^ that is all Obama’s creation. He KNEW he wasn’t legit and did it anyway thinking with his arrogant narcissistic attitude that his EGO was more important. He doesn’t give a crap about this Nation and he is just proving it.
Correct you are. I had my post pulled. Thanks.
Well then, no wonder the poster’s intelligence was threatened just reading a FR thread!
This document may have been requested for any reason at the 2/64 date; hence the Republic of Kenya being on it. Doesn’t have anything to do with original document. Sounds like a certified copy of original document. Could be due to the divorce between Obama’s parents. The court may not have had one on record and requested said document.
Personally, I feel like I have 3 or 4 reasons for thinking this purported document is a fraud. The Republic of Kenya issue is only one of them.
I’m not going to state the others here, because every time you do that, you point out to people how to correct things to make the next fraud more difficult.
Let’s just say that at this point I’m very skeptical. I’m not going to declare that I’m certain it’s a fraud, but I am very skeptical.
Once again for me it comes back to this: as far as we can tell, Obama has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees to avoid producing a valid $10 long-form birth certificate. Why? Obviously he has something significant to hide.
THAT’s the smoking gun for me. And there’s NOTHING at this point that can convince me he isn’t a fake. Even if he does appear on TV holding a long form birth certificate in his hand, I’ll believe it’s a forgery... based on his actions up to this point.
Frankly, I suspect that both this document and our current “President” are fakes.
I believe she was born on JANUARY 17, 1964. I could be wrong.
Great catch, thank you!
You are correct. I had my post pulled. My bad.
I doubt McLame would go after Obama?
Fascinating, thanks!
BP2's Timeline:
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; danamco
I'll call Mr. Obama on that bluff.
The Certification of Live Birth ROOT DOCUMENT (or lack thereof) will create more questions than it will answer ... like: WHERE THE HELL was his dear mum February-August 1961? (see the timeline below):
June 1960 -- Ann moved to Hawaii with Parents (exact date unknown)
Sept 1960 -- Ann started classes at U of Hawaii (exact date: Sept. 26, 1960)
Oct 1960 -- Got pregnant by Obama SR
Feb 1961 -- Married Obama SR (Feb. 2, 1961) ANN'S EXACT AGE: 18 years, 2 months, 5 days
Aug 1961 -- Gave birth to Obama JR on Aug. 4, 1961 (reportedly in Hawaii and on that date) ANN'S EXACT AGE: 18 years, 8 months, 7 days
Aug 1961 -- Sighting by Susan Blake in late-August on Mercer Island, Seattle (Obama Jr reportedly 3 weeks old) -- SHE'S TRAVELING FROM HAWAII TO SEATTLE, in 1961, WITH A 3-WK-OLD, only to ship the baby BACK to start classes in Seattle? HUH?! ...
Fall 1961 -- Attended classes in Seattle at University of Washington (see transcripts below), but not with University of Hawaii in Spring of 1961 -- possible BREAK in Hawaiian Residency status, depending on when she left Hawaii
Fall 1961 -- a Listing for Stanley Ann Obama appears in the 1961 Polk directory at the Seattle Public Library: "Obama Anna Mrs studt h516 13th Ave. E. apt. 2"
1961-1962 -- Anna Obama phone listing, as listed in Seattle Reverse Directory, 1961-1962: "Obama Anna Mrs EA3-3346" at "516 Villa Ria Apartments"
Mar 1962 -- Mary Toutonghi babysat Obama Jr at Ann Dunham (aka Anna Obama) apartment for two months (through May 1962)
Sum 1962 -- Sighting by John W. Hunt in June-Sept 1962 "I had moved to Utah for a while after high school, and I came back to Seattle in the summer of 1962. I remember visiting the World's Fair, and then stopping by Stanley Ann's apartment on Capitol Hill. It was a small apartment, upstairs. It was after June, and could have been as late as September, 1962. I visited her for half a day or so. It was after the end of the spring quarter classes, and she wasn't in classes, and didn't have a job. I recall her being melancholy at the time. I had a sense that something wasn't right in her."
Fall 1962 -- Ann Dunman is no longer registered for classes at University of Washington
Fall 1962 -- Obama SR begins school at Harvard, in Boston, Mass.
Sept-Dec 1962 -- Ann moves back to Hawaii, with baby Obama, to live with parents
Spring 1963 -- Ann Dunham resumes school back at University of Hawaii at Manoa
Jan 1964 -- Ann Dunham files for divorce in Hawaii Court
Mar 1964 -- Divorce is granted (Obama SR does not respond to divorce notice in Boston)
See post 3311
A logical, reasoned response.
Lots of us want to see Barry and his Commie cronies thrown out of the White House but mindlessly jumping on every little thing in hopes of getting rid of him is not the way to go about it. Those who do this are "reacting" and not taking action.
If anybody has the most to gain from this birther issue, it's the Dems and their strategists George Soros, Rahm Emmanuel and David Axlerod. They can use it to make conservatives look like blitering idiots in 2010 and 2012 just like the Dems used SNL and Tina Fey to destroy Sarah Palin.
Focus on winning back Congress in 2010 then the White House in 2012.
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