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What Karl Rove Should Tell La Raza
Human Events ^ | 07/10/06 | The Human Events View

Posted on 07/10/2006 5:42:12 PM PDT by garbageseeker

White House adviser Karl Rove is scheduled to speak tomorrow at the annual conference of the federally funded, left-wing, open-borders-advocacy group, the National Council of La Raza.

If he does not want his speech to look like an act of appeasement, he should confront La Raza on its opposition to commonsense policies designed to secure both U.S. borders and U.S. pocketbooks.

La Raza, which means “The Race” in Spanish, has denounced as “horrendous” and “appalling” the House immigration bill passed in December, which was sponsored by Judiciary Chairman James Sensenbrenner (R.-Wis.) and supported by the overwhelming majority of House Republicans. The bill, which calls for tough worksite enforcement of immigration laws and 700 miles of border fencing, was condemned by La Raza as a “laundry list of mean-spirited and intrusive provisions concocted by the most radical immigrations restrictionists in Congress.”

Will Rove defend the immigration reforms passed by President Bush’s party in the House and tell La Raza that House Republicans are neither “mean-spirited” nor “radical”? He should. House Republicans deserve Rove’s support.

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To: jmc813

Do YOU think all immigrants are of a different race than native-born Americans?

Perhaps it's YOU being a tad racist here.


721 posted on 07/12/2006 1:55:28 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Do YOU think all immigrants are of a different race than native-born Americans?

Now you're splitting hairs. I'll correct myself and amend my previous comment to "you really sound elitist". Immigrants who come here legally should have the same opportunities as your children. Assuming that they will perform manual labor while your kids get white collar jobs is incredibly offensive to legal immigrants.

722 posted on 07/12/2006 1:59:29 PM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
My kids ARE in a better position than newly arrived immigrants or illegal aliens, and if yours aren't, they're the ones in for a rude awakening.

Lets agree to leave our kids out of this discussion as I find your pompous implications concerning mine extremely irritating.

723 posted on 07/12/2006 3:29:16 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: jmc813

No, I'm not splitting hairs...you simply got busted making a racist statement while trying to accuse me of being racist.

I was talking about immigrants, and you immediately thought of all immigrants as being something other than white, or at the very least, all of one race.


724 posted on 07/13/2006 2:04:38 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: jmc813
"Manual labor obviously has to be done, so you think that immigrants and not native born citizens should do it. That is racist whether you intended for it to be or not."

Is English a second language to you?

RACIST?

So, if a Polish immigrant, a Vietnamese immigrant, and a Haitian immigrant are all cutting grass together, what race are they?

Get your head our of your ___.

725 posted on 07/13/2006 2:08:12 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: skeeter
"...they're oh so much better than those lousy Messicans."

Le's not discuss illegal aliens, they're not part of this equation, let's discuss the children of immigrants in general, and the children of THIS immigrant in particular.

I ALREADY washed dishes, waited on tables, cut grass, and worked at WalMart as did my father.

Most newly arrived immigrants do those jobs because that's the jobs available to them...it's always been that way in this country.

I did those jobs and improved myself in order to IMPROVE my children's chances at a better life...that of course being the reason that my parents left Cuba, migrated here, and took jobs as dishwashers and room Hotel maids.

The sum total of our combined sacrifices are designed to not only better our lives, but to push the family UP, not back.

I don't imagine any Rockefeller ever looking at one of their kids and telling them that cutting grass for a living was a perfectly fine goal for them to strive for.

I'm not telling mine that working as dishwashers is good either.

You want to tell yours that it is?

You go right ahead.

726 posted on 07/13/2006 2:16:52 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Have you ever wondered why first generation immigrants always seem to have a stronger work ethic, academically, professionally, etc. than do their kids these days?

I wish your kids all the best, Luis, but I'm afraid you're not doing them any favors.

727 posted on 07/13/2006 6:29:29 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

You equate a strong work ethic with manual labor?

Send your kids to mine, maybe they'll hire them.


728 posted on 07/13/2006 8:47:50 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Send your kids to mine, maybe they'll hire them.

I'll leave that up to them, but I'll warn you up front they're pretty good at sniffing out & avoiding pretentious self important tightwads.

729 posted on 07/13/2006 9:39:59 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
"Have you ever wondered why first generation immigrants always seem to have a stronger work ethic, academically, professionally, etc. than do their kids these days?"

Well, we can examine this exchange between you (a descendant of an immigrant, several generations removed), and me, a first generation immigrant.

You are making the argument that lowered expectations of your children is somehow noble, while calling me and my children "pretentious self important tightwads" because I expect them to always move themselves, and by default the family, forward.

First generation immigrants work hard to get ahead, while their descendants, you as an example, offer moving backward into the work force as somehow being a good thing.

Do you remember the last time that people were forced to move backward in the work force chain?

It was called The Great Depression.

730 posted on 07/14/2006 3:40:22 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
You are making the argument that lowered expectations of your children is somehow noble,

Hopefully my children will not look down on any American who works hard, not matter what their vocation. Personally, I find it repugnant that anyone would.

731 posted on 07/14/2006 4:49:50 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Where exactly did I look down on anyone?

I simply stated the fact that my kids will not do those jobs.

You took issue with that, and advanced the notion that expecting forward movement from one's children made people "pretentious self important tightwads."

Now, all you have to do is show me where I "looked down" on anyone.


732 posted on 07/14/2006 11:02:06 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: garbageseeker
What Karl Rove should tell La Raza

Besa mi culo?

733 posted on 07/15/2006 10:02:56 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
You took issue with that, and advanced the notion that expecting forward movement from one's children made people "pretentious self important tightwads."

No, I implied that you were a self-important tightwad... self-important because you apparently can't understand why inviting another guy's children over to unplug your kid's john, while rhetorically clever, might also offend the other guy; and tightwad because being a skinflint seems to be a shared characteristic among those who think using illegal labor is just ducky.

Since you're intent on missing my point I don't see the point in continuing.

734 posted on 07/15/2006 5:24:47 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Once-Ler

"I don't understand why they are restricted from coming."

Are you speaking in support of open immigration here?


735 posted on 07/16/2006 1:59:12 PM PDT by mthom
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To: mthom
Are you speaking in support of open immigration here?

I'm speaking in support of rational immigration laws or work permits for foreign workers to fill an expanding American jobs vacuum that is choking our economic growth and forcing business to outsource. Hence the sentence..."As long as they are coming to work I don't understand why they are restricted from coming."

Now I know you read this and see "As long as they are coming to spread disease, collect welfare, and destroy our American culture, I don't understand why they are restricted from coming."

This is the point where you reply something about how I'm selling out my children's future for financial gain.

736 posted on 07/16/2006 8:53:24 PM PDT by Once-Ler (The rat 06 election platform will be a promise to impeach the President if they win)
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To: Arizona Carolyn; stephenjohnbanker
That's why I'm curious about where that number came from

The fringe-bots (supporters of illegal workers...they use them...and slammers of our troops..."They slaughtered innocents") make up any "stats" that they would like to have be facts.

Then slam those that want to save our country from invasion. Unfortunately many posters fall for their anti-American rhetoric.

737 posted on 07/19/2006 10:40:28 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: Syncro

Correct on all counts.


738 posted on 07/19/2006 9:41:22 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Taglines for sale or rent. Good "one liners", 50 cents.)
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To: garbageseeker
La Raza is the Hispanic version of the KKK or airan nation. I do not any thing different in La Raza, they are very much racist I knew a few members while serving in the Marine Corps and they are as anti white people and any skinhead group is anti black or Jew.
739 posted on 07/21/2006 3:45:32 AM PDT by RMrattlesnake
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To: garbageseeker

That's a fact & here is another, our tax money finances it!

Are you represented? We elect administrators because WE are the legitimate government of these United States. La Raza is by definition, their loud voice and defiant actions subversive, and on the money you bust your ass for.

Where in our Constitution does it say those who give aid and comfort to domestic enemies of the Constitution are entitled to hold office? Rove took a very different oath and should be prosecuted for malfeasance if not treason.

That $15,000,000 was stolen and the theif should be hunted down and prosecuted. Where the hell are the Judge Parkers when you need them.


740 posted on 08/01/2006 3:09:51 PM PDT by Medicine Warrior (There are a thousand hacking at the branches of Evil, to one who is striking at the root)
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