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Right I think people are willing to give cops a lot of slack in situations where split second decisions are being made. But these guys had plenty of manpower and plenty of time to re-evaluate and change tactics. Once Floyd went non-responsive any rationale they did have went out the window.

Baden also said he died at the scene. I had read he died an hour later. That should be easy to clear up.

Saw data that 44 suspects were rendered unconscious by Minneapolis cops over the last 5 years. Whether it was in the book or not, this was a tactic cops out there were using and in this case these particular cops got burned because they did it to a guy with medical problems and he tragically died on them. Obviously his health was a contributing factor. What really makes it look awful is no matter how they ended up in that position there was no reason to kneel on him for so long ignoring his pleas, even if just to be on the safe side. Of course they didn’t think they were killing him because you’d have to think they’re not stupid enough to do that while being filmed. I don’t. But I do think they were stupid enough to be callous and negligent. You can bet they made the mistake because a) suspects cry wolf all the time b) he looked like a big, relatively tough guy who was not obese c) this particular cop deals with this demographic all the time and is numb to caring when it comes to people like Floyd— aka a jaded at best, most would say outright racist attitude.d)they were just being plain lazy because it’s easier to sit on him then move him a round and take a chance hassling with him struggling more. Would that have played nicer and been more careful if it was a drunk white frat kid. Depends on how much of a dick the kid was but you can almost always say yeah. e) ALL OF THE ABOVE.

Of course that’s not what I’m saying. Whatever health issue he had contributed to his death. At this point, unless the autopsy report says Floyd had an aneurysm unrelated to respiratory distress he is going to face manslaughter charges. Murder implies he was trying to kill him which I do not believe. I think he thought he was a big guy who could handle a little rough treatment and was crying wolf as arrested people often do.

You’re right. Blame my poor eyesight. It’s an important distinction because the “pockets” made it look him look even more indifferent.

The way Chauvin was kneeling on him with his hands in his pockets makes me think he has probably done this many times before. This time he did it to a guy who had some health issues, be it drug related or whatever, and he ended up dead. Once the guy was incapacitated he became responsible for his safety. He probably thought he didn’t have his full weight on him and the guy was crying wolf and who knows maybe he was in part. If you can talk you can breathe right. But it doesn’t matter because Chauvin had many opportunities to re-assess the situation and change tactics. He is screwed. I suggest saving your ammo, no pun intended, for the situations where LEO’s are being judged too harshly for split second decisions under pressure, not calmly and recklessly creating unnecessary problems for themselves and the community.

I predict Chauvin will say he didn’t have his full weight on Floyd and that he thought his pleas were crying wolf. If you can talk, you can breathe, so he could reasonably make that claim. But just kneeling there with hands in pockets on top of him for so long once he stopped struggling is tough to explain away.

It probably killed him because he was already in poor health. In any case, these cops picked the wrong moment. carelessly apply force.

Looking at ALL deaths in New York in past 20 years(follows a pretty stable pattern and no games with how cause of death is coded) about twice as many died in this past month as in the same time period in previous years. It definitely has had far more impact than the regular flu in terms of velocity.

The Subaru Outback forums are buzzing.

When did Michelle Malkin turn into an anti-vax nut? Has she always been on that horse?

I have seen about dozen news stories where the person who died is described as having “no underlying conditions” when they are clearly obese if not morbidly obese (plus a dozen more mentioning diabetes). So many people are fat these days it’s become normalized. I know plenty who walk around 30-50lbs overweight and don’t think of themselves as obese because they’re comparing themselves to utter landwhales instead of fit people. You see this going on even in military/LE setting. It’s disgraceful. If story after story about fats dying of COVID doesn’t get people to wake up and change their lifestyle what will?

Heard from doc in my neighborhood that liquor stores are being kept open because the government doesn’t want all the alcoholics in withdrawal clogging the ERs. Liquor industry gets most of their of revenue from people who have 10+ drinks PER DAY. Eye opener.

College-age intern in office building tested positive. Now in medically-induced coma. That got everybody’s attention right quick.

I may be listening to too many true crime podcasts, but it sounds to me like the kind of vague non-info you would leak on purpose to spook a nervous suspect, perhaps to see if he gets agitated, or is even dumb enough to go and check that the body is still safely hidden.

Completely buy that theory. Every therapist I have ever know in personal life has been a little goofy. Also psychiatrists and kids of psychiatrists.

For some reason that story really disturbed me more than the average social decay news story you see every day. These lunatics think they are so enlightened when they have gone off the deep end. It’s truly mad.

Knowing the Netherlands, he’s probably living in some rehab half-way house with room service and a PS4.

"In the Netherlands, kids as young as 12 can die by euthanasia — for mental-health reasons — after consulting a doctor who agrees that their suffering is unbearable and likely to continue."

Of course the only "doctor" that would touch a situation like that is a nut with an agenda so the "consulting" is of the "Are you suuuure you want to kill yourself because that would be totally understandable and your Instagram followers seem be on board" variety. Lunacy.