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To: daniel1212

How did you know what books make up the bible?

Once again everything true you got from us, the Catholic Church. Protestants didn’t exist until 1500 years later.


13 posted on 06/20/2023 4:36:33 PM PDT by Texas_Guy
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To: Texas_Guy

—-> How did you know what books make up the bible?

2/3 of Holy Scripture was written before the birth of Christ

1/3 was written before 100ad

Catholicism entered later.

God inspired, recorded, and preserved Scripture.


19 posted on 06/20/2023 5:09:58 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Texas_Guy

We wouldn’t have had to rebel if you all didn’t screw it all up.


22 posted on 06/20/2023 5:17:58 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Texas_Guy
Once again everything true you got from us, the Catholic Church. Protestants didn’t exist until 1500 years later.

Very amusing. Considering the Catholic Church was founded in the 4th century.

29 posted on 06/20/2023 5:35:56 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd ( )
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To: Texas_Guy
Once again everything true you got from us, the Catholic Church.

What a joke.

Scripture came from the Jews as inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Catholicism had nothing to do with giving the world the Truth, thankfully, because they would have messed that up as well.

43 posted on 06/20/2023 6:46:57 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!)
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To: Texas_Guy

“Once again everything true you got from us, the Catholic Church. Protestants didn’t exist until 1500 years later.”

Oh, there you’ve done it now! Next you’ll be posting long quotes from Ralph Adams Cram (a Protestant) about how Protestantism hates beauty (which is true).


54 posted on 06/20/2023 7:50:15 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Texas_Guy

You’re wrong - once again - an unbroken streak of wrong. Incredible.

The FACT is that your “Roman Catholic ‘church’”, led by Satan, did what Satan does: Lie and Steal. Your club SCREWED UP growth of the Church by distracting people from salvation by grace- and grace alone.

Luther revealed what had been perverted and confused by your religion.

Thank God!

It may be true that “Protestants didn’t exist” but what we believe is exactly what every believer knows is true and exactly what first century believers knew.

I look forward to reading the next installment of your unbroken losing streak.


60 posted on 06/20/2023 8:05:06 PM PDT by Ken Regis (I concur. )
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To: Texas_Guy

Yup.

However, we let you keep the false stuff.


74 posted on 06/20/2023 9:21:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Texas_Guy
How did you know what books make up the bible?

As I am quite sure has been told you in response to your repeated posting or refuted parroted polemics, by the same way the common held John the Baptizer to be "a prophet indeed," (Mark 11:32) even though he was rejected by the historical magisterium - which, under the Catholic model for of Truth, is how one assuredly knows what is of God. And indeed, the NT church itself began contrary to Catholicism.

For church actually began in dissent from those who sat in the seat of Moses over Israel, to whom conditional obedience was enjoined, (Mt. 23:2; cf. Dt. 17:8-13) which judgments included which men and writings were of God and which were not, (Mk. 11:27-33) as the historical magisterial head over Israel which was the historical instrument and steward of Scripture, "because that unto them were committed the oracles of God," (Rm. 3:2) to whom pertaineth" the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises" (Rm. 9:4) of Divine guidance, presence and perpetuation as they believed, (Gn. 12:2, 3; 17:4,7,8; Ex. 19:5; Lv. 10:11; Dt. 4:31; 17:8-13; Ps, 11:4,9; Is. 41:10, Ps. 89:33, 34; Jer. 7:23)

And instead they followed an itinerant Preacher whom the magisterium rejected, and whom the Messiah reproved them Scripture as being supreme, (Mk. 7:2-16) and established His Truth claims upon scriptural substantiation in word and in power, as did the early church as it began upon this basis. (Mt. 22:23-45; Lk. 24:27, 44; Jn. 5:36, 39; Acts 2:14-35; 4:33; 5:12; 15:6-21;17:2,11; 18:28; 28:23; Rm. 15:19; 2Cor. 12:12, etc.)

And instead they followed an itinerant Preacher whom the magisterium rejected, and which the Messiah reproved, based upon Scripture as being supreme, (Mk. 7:2-16) and established His Truth claims upon scriptural substantiation in word and in power, as did the early church as it began upon this basis. (Mt. 22:23-45; Lk. 24:27, 44; Jn. 5:36, 39; Acts 2:14-35; 4:33; 5:12; 15:6-21;17:2,11; 18:28; 28:23; Rm. 15:19; 2Cor. 12:12, etc.)

For an authoritative body of wholly God-inspired writings had been manifestly established by the time of Christ as being "Scripture, ("in all the Scriptures") "even the tripartite canon of the Law, the Prophets and The Writings, by which the Lord Jesus established His messiahship and ministry and opened the minds of the disciples to, who did the same . (Luke 24:27.44,45; Acts 17:2; 18:28, etc.) For the Hebrew Scriptures testify to Jesus being the promised scapegoat and perfect atonement, (https://peacebyjesuscom.blogspot.com/2022/05/why-should-of-jewish-faith-believe-in.html) And thus Scripture provided the doctrinal and prophetic epistemological foundation for the NT church.

For God manifestly made writing His most-reliable means of authoritative preservation. (Exodus 17:14; 34:1,27; Deuteronomy 10:4; 17:18; 27:3,8; 31:24; Joshua 1:8; 2 Chronicles 34:15, 18-19, 30-31; Psalm 19:7-11; 119; Isaiah 30:8; Jeremiah 30:2; Matthew 4:5-7; 22:29; Luke 24:44, 45; John 5:46, 47; John 20:31; Acts 17:2, 11; 18:28; Revelation 1:1; 20:12, 15

And thus as abundantly evidenced , as written, Scripture became the transcendent supreme standard for obedience and testing and establishing truth claims as the wholly Divinely inspired and assured, Word of God. Thus the veracity of even apostolic oral preaching could be subject to testing by Scripture. (Acts 17:11) .

Moreover, men such as the apostles could speak as wholly inspired of God and also provide new public revelation thereby (in conflation with what had been written), neither of popes and councils claim to do. Thus the written word is the assured infallible word of God.

And the establishment of an authoritative body of wholly God-inspired writings by the time of Christ also shows that both men and writings of God could be recognized without an infallible magisterium - contrary to the premise of Catholicism. Which, establishment, as with men of God, was essentially due to the uniquely Divine qualities and attestation, and the consensus of the people who were regenerated by faith in its gospel, with freedom to read it, contrary to much of Rome's history.

Once again everything true you got from us, the Catholic Church. Protestants didn’t exist until 1500 years later.

Once again, that is simply absurd, and repeating this mantra will not make it any more true that before. For as said and ignored, per usual, distinctive Catholic teachings are not manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels).

However, no more should really be needed to be said since you have been reproved abundantly already, by the grace of God.:

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95 posted on 06/21/2023 5:04:47 AM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
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