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De Mattei: Pope Francis and his “Lutheran turning point”
Rorate Caeli ^ | November 8, 2017 | Roberto de Mattei

Posted on 11/09/2017 1:57:06 PM PST by ebb tide

De Mattei: Pope Francis and his “Lutheran turning point”

Roberto de Mattei
Corrispondenza Romana
November 8 2017




On October 31st 2016, Pope Francis inaugurated the year of Luther by meeting with representatives of Lutheranism from all over the world in the Swedish Cathedral of Lund. Since then, meetings and “ecumenical” celebrations ad abundantiam have followed one after the other in the Catholic Church.

A year exactly from that date, the “”Lutheran turning point ”was sealed by a symbolic act the gravity of which very few have noticed. The Vatican Post Office issued a stamp which celebrates the birth of Protestantism on October 31st 1517, the date Luther hung his 95 theses on the door of Wittenberg Cathedral.

V Centenary of the Protestant Reformationcan be read at the top of the stamp, presented on October 31st of this year by the Vatican Philatelic Office.  The official communiqué describes the stamp: It depicts Jesus Crucified in the foreground on a gold, timeless background showing Wittenberg city. In an attitude of penance, on their knees respectively on the left and the right of the the Cross, Martin Luther holds a Bible, source and point of his doctrine, while Philip Melanchthon, theologian and a friend of Martin Luther’s, one of the most important protagonists of the Reformation, holds in his hand the Augsburg Confession, Confessio Augustuana, the first official exposition of the principles of Protestantism drawn up by him.”

The substitution of Our Lady and St. John at the foot of the Cross with the  two heresiarchs, Luther and Melanchthon is a blasphemous offense that no Catholic cardinal or bishop has, to date, openly condemned. The significance of this image is explained by the joint declaration of the World Lutheran Federation and the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity, published the same day as the stamp. The note refers to the positive outcome of the dialogue between Catholics and Lutherans, endorsing the “new understanding of those XVI century events which lead to our separation” and affirms how both sides are “very grateful for the theological and spiritual gifts received through the Reformation”.


As if that weren’t enough, around the same time, La Civiltà Cattolica, the Pope’s “unofficial” voice, celebrated Luther  with  an article by Father Giancarlo Pani (Martin Luther, Five Hundred Years Later, in La Civiltà Cattolica , of October 21st – November 4th 2017, pp. 119-130)

Father Pani is the same priest who said in 2014 that the Fathers of the Council of Trent had admitted the possibility of divorce and remarriage in the case of adultery, according to the custom established in the schismatic Greek Church. Now he is sustaining that Martin Luther was in no way a heretic, but an authentic “reformer”.  In fact, “ the theses of Wittenberg are not a challenge, nor a rebellion against authority, but the proposal to renew the proclamation of the Gospel, in the sincere desire for a “reform” in the Church”. (p.128). Despite the claim “ by the Church of Rome and Luther of incarnating the truth in toto and being dispensers of it ” “ the role Luther had as a witness to the faith cannot be denied: He is “the reformer”;  he was able to initiate a process of “reform”  where the results of it  have also benefited the Catholic Church.”

If this is the case then he has been unjustly persecuted and defamed by the Catholic Church for 500 years. The time has come to rehabilitate him.  And in order to rehabilitate him we cannot limit ourselves to presenting only his prophetic side, but must make the Church accept and put into practice his demands of reform. And the Post-Synod Exhortation Amoris Laetitia represents a decisive stage on this path. They are not wrong then the authors of the Correctio filialis  (to Pope Francis) when they underlined “the affinity between Luther’s ideas on the law, justification and matrimony and those taught  or favored by Pope Francis in Amoris laetitia and elsewhere.” 

At this point it should be remembered that Pope Francis, like Father Pani, belongs to the Company of Jesus, whose Founder, St. Ignatius of Loyola, was the champion of the Faith that Divine Providence raised up in the XVI century against Lutheranism. In Germany, apostles like St. Peter Canisio and Blessed Peter Fabro, fought every inch of the way against the heretics and on the terrain of anti-Protestant controversy no-one can surpass St. Robert Bellarmino.

La Civiltà Cattolica was founded in 1850, with the support of Pius IX, and had a role of doctrinal defense against the errors of the time for a very long time. From its very first edition, on April 6th 1850, it dedicated an extensive anonymous essay (by Father Matteo Liberatore) on The Political Rationalism of the Italian Revolution, in which he saw Protestantism as the cause of all modern errors. These theses were developed, among others, by two famous Jesuit theologians: Fathers Giovanni Perrone (Protestantism and the Rule of the Faith, La Civiltà Cattolica, Rome 1853, 2 voll.), and Hartmann Grisar (Luther, Herder, Freiburg im Breisgau, 1911/1912, 3 voll.).

But the commemoration of the Lutheran revolt made by the Jesuit journal in October 1917, the fourth centenary marking the 95 theses in Wittenberg, takes on a special meaning.  (Luther and Lutheranism, in La Civiltà Cattolica, IV (1917), pp. 207-233; 421-430). The theologian of La Civiltà Cattolica explained that “The essence of the Lutheran spirit, or rather Lutheranism, is rebellion in all of its extension and in all the force of its word. Rebellion, therefore, which is personified in Luther, was varied and profound, complex and very vast; which apparently appeared but was in fact violent, angry, trivial, obscene and diabolic; deep down it was studied, and directed according to the circumstances, focused on opportunistic ends and interests, intended and wanted with  measured, resolute determination.” (pp.208-309).

Luther, La Civiltà Cattolica continues, “initiated that contemptible parody, with which the rebel monk attributed to God, his ideas, blasphemies and the abominations of his perverted mind: he outraged the Pope in an unspeakable way in the name of Christ, he cursed Caesar in the name of Christ, he blasphemed against the Church, against bishops, against monks with absolute infernal impetuosity, in the name of Christ; he threw his religious habit onto the tree of Judas, in the name of Christ and in the name of Christ he was married sacrilegiously” (p.209). “With the very convenient pretext of following Scripture, as that which alone contains the word of God, he conducted a war on scholastic theology, tradition, canon law, all the institutions and precepts of the Church and councils: in place of these august and venerated things, he, Martin Luther, perjured monk and self-proclaimed doctor, put himself and his authority! Popes, doctors and Holy Fathers were no longer of any worth; the word of Marin Luther was worth more than all of them!  (p.212). The Lutheran theory of justification, in the end, “was born of Luther’s imagination, not by the Gospel or any other word of God revealed to the writers of the New Testament: for us, every Lutheran novelty finds its origins in the concupiscence he stimulated, and in his development of the falsification of Scripture or in formal lying” (p.214

Father Pani cannot deny that the opinion he gives of Luther is a 360 degree turnaround from the one his confreres gave in the same journal, a century ago.  In 1917,  he was censured as an apostate, a rebel, a blasphemer; today he is being praised as a reformer, a prophet, [even] holy. No Hegelian dialectic can harmonize yesterday’s judgment with today’s. Luther was either a heretic who denied some basic dogmas of Christianity, or he was a “witness to faith” who initiated  the Reformation of the Church, brought to completion by the Second Vatican Council and Pope Francis.

In short, every Catholic is called upon to choose whether to side with Pope Francis and the Jesuits of today, or be alongside the Jesuits of yesterday and the Popes of all time.

It is time for choices and to mediate precisely on St. Ignatius’ two standards (Spiritual Exercises, n. 137)* which will help us make them in these difficult times.



*Translator’s note: ”It will be here how Christ calls and wants all under His standard; and Lucifer, on the contrary, under his.” (no. 137, Spiritual Exercises).



Translation: Contributor Francesca Romana



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: francischurch; heresy
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To: Arthur McGowan

Hey Art....you still claiming to be a Roman Catholic priest?


161 posted on 11/09/2017 8:59:25 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide

Well, if we could see your post #12 we’d have a good idea of who startied the mess......but it’s been deleted. Wonder why??


162 posted on 11/09/2017 9:04:30 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
Seems us non-catholics know more about Roman Catholicism than some Roman Catholics.

That’s why I am an ex Catholic bro. Once I compared it to scripture, I could see there was a huge difference, so I gracefully withdrew. Ok,maybe it wasn’t so graceful after all. 😀😆😄

163 posted on 11/09/2017 9:04:54 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Luircin; ealgeone
If YOU really knew about Roman Catholicism; you’d run away and never go back.

If that's true, why has the Catholic Church survived over 2000 years, why has it converted countless people on all continents, why does it have a multitude of martyrs and saints who died defending that same faith?

And why does it remain, "the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church"?

164 posted on 11/09/2017 9:10:21 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide; Luircin; ealgeone

The argument for longevity of the Catholic church and all you listed falls flat considering Islam could likewise say almost the same.... Now think about it.

Look inward instead of outward of what they’re teaching...


165 posted on 11/09/2017 9:15:35 PM PST by caww (freeen)
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To: ealgeone; Luircin
Wonder why??

No need to wonder, ask Luircin; he considered it a personal attack on him.

If you wish I'll PM you a link to the deleted article.

166 posted on 11/09/2017 9:20:54 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: caww

How old is Islam?


167 posted on 11/09/2017 9:21:37 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
I did say 'almost' similar...therefore not surprising you zoomed in on age yet again.....however...the Jewish faith has it first...not Catholicism. Had the faith not determined to be like Rome and let in all the hoards they did and adapt their pagan rites and rituals into the church....you might have survived as the Christian Representation God first intended....unfortunately they failed to hear the correcting hand of God time and again....thus the reformation with those who would carry and be what God intended should not be within the body of Christ HIS church.
168 posted on 11/09/2017 9:29:02 PM PST by caww (freeen)
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To: ealgeone
Because I understand Roman Catholicism is the reason why I’m not a Roman Catholic.

That's what Luther thought, also.

169 posted on 11/09/2017 9:29:18 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: caww
....thus the reformation with those who would carry and be what God intended should not be within the body of Christ HIS church.

That's interesting. God intended for some "not to be within the body of Christ HIS church"?

170 posted on 11/09/2017 9:38:14 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: caww
unfortunately they failed to hear the correcting hand of God time and again....thus the reformation with those who would carry and be what God intended should not be within the body of Christ HIS church.

Thank God for Father Luther. Oops, call no man father. Thank God for BROTHER Luther. How do you suppose all those Catholic are going to feel in Heaven, having to sit next to brother Luther forever? Won’t that be a trip? 😆🤯

171 posted on 11/09/2017 9:56:13 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

I wonder how many Catholics would rather go to Hell than be with Luther in eternal life?

I think I see one on this very thread.


172 posted on 11/09/2017 10:13:00 PM PST by Luircin
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To: ebb tide

This coming from the guy who went crying to the moderator when I accurately accused him of telling falsehoods.

So were you lying about never insulting me, or is your memory THAT bad?

Or maybe it’s just the usual temper tantrum.

But really. Answer the question. Why did you repeat falsehoods, especially after I proved they were false?


173 posted on 11/09/2017 10:18:27 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin
I wonder how many Catholics would rather go to Hell than be with Luther in eternal life?

Ouch. That’s going to leave a scar. I believe it is true, however, that everyone in Hell, will be there, because they chose to be there. One of the worst things about being in Hell, 🔥 will be memory. They will remember every time someone tried to tell them the truth. They will remember every chance they had, to choose Heaven, and they deliberately chose Hell, and it will haunt them forever. Oh well, they can blame no one but themselves.
I believe that is a question, that many of us would like answered, but I don’t have 3 million years, to wait for an answer. 😱 🤯👎

174 posted on 11/09/2017 10:28:55 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ebb tide
Since then, meetings and “ecumenical” celebrations ad abundantiam have followed one after the other in the Catholic Church.

Thereby throwing Catholic folks like you ET; who have spent a LIFETIME (it seems) just foaming at the mouth over anything Lutherian; hating everything about him and any who read 'his' bible, or attend one of 'his' churches.

175 posted on 11/10/2017 3:47:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide; Bryanw92
I’ll stick with Scripture.

Seems like a good place to stand your ground...

NIV 1 Corinthians 4:6
Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written."
Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.

But this is just St. Paul.

Who gives a rat's patootie what HE has written?

176 posted on 11/10/2017 3:51:27 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlessedBeGod
I side with 2,000 years of the Church, all of the saints, and the popes up until Francis.

The things up with which you will put!






Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

177 posted on 11/10/2017 3:53:28 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
Or how about this?

...call no man father...


178 posted on 11/10/2017 3:54:22 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide; metmom; boatbums; MHGinTN; Mark17; Tennessee Nana; Salvation
What church is yours and how "original" is it?.

Good question!


Acts 15    Version 1.54

The Council at Fresno...
 1 Certain Catholics came from all across the world to FreeRepublic and were trying to convince the believers: "Unless you are Catechized, according to the custom taught by Rome, you cannot be saved." 2 This brought Elsie and Metmom ETAL into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Elsie and Metmom were appointed, along with some other believers, to lurk on FR to see the  Catholics and NON about this question. 3 The Holy Spirit sent them on their way, and as they traveled through the Religion Forum, they told how the NON-Catholics had been converted. This news made all the Protestants very glad. 4 When they came to FR, they were scorned by members of the ONE TRUE church, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

 5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Catholics stood up and said, "The Protestants must be baptisted correctly and required to keep the laws of Rome!"

 6 The posters met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Metmom got up and addressed them: "Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Protestants might hear from our fingers the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Protestants a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."

 12 The whole of FR became silent (Yeah; THAT's gonna happen!) as they listened to Elsie and Metmom telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Protestants. 13 When they finished, Boatbums spoke up. "Brothers," she said, "listen to me. 14 MGinTN has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:

 16 "'After this I will return
   and rebuild Rome's fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
   and I will restore it,
17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
   even all the Protestants who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things'
 18 things known from long ago.

 19 "It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Protestants who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from vision and apparations, from Brown Scapulas, from the endless repetitions of the ROSARY and from so-called blood. 21 For the laws of Rome has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the sanctuaries on every Sunday."

The Council's Letter to Gentile Believers
 22 Then the posters and lurkers, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Fresno with Mark17 and Tennessee Nana. They chose Daniel121 (called Wise) and eagleone, men who were leaders among the believers. 23 With them they sent the following letter:

   The apostles and elders, your brothers,

   To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

   Greetings.

 24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

   Farewell.

 30 So the men were sent off and continued to post on FR, where they gathered the people together and delivered the GOSPEL. 31 The people (most all  except Salvation and Vlademir998) read it and were glad for its encouraging message. 

 

 

 


179 posted on 11/10/2017 4:04:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
Why have Hinduism, Islam, Judaism been around so long and have converted millions?

Do you really think God is impressed with longevity or big crowds?

180 posted on 11/10/2017 4:06:55 AM PST by ealgeone
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