Posted on 11/09/2017 1:57:06 PM PST by ebb tide
De Mattei: Pope Francis and his Lutheran turning point
Hey Art....you still claiming to be a Roman Catholic priest?
Well, if we could see your post #12 we’d have a good idea of who startied the mess......but it’s been deleted. Wonder why??
Thats why I am an ex Catholic bro. Once I compared it to scripture, I could see there was a huge difference, so I gracefully withdrew. Ok,maybe it wasnt so graceful after all. 😀😆😄
If that's true, why has the Catholic Church survived over 2000 years, why has it converted countless people on all continents, why does it have a multitude of martyrs and saints who died defending that same faith?
And why does it remain, "the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church"?
The argument for longevity of the Catholic church and all you listed falls flat considering Islam could likewise say almost the same.... Now think about it.
Look inward instead of outward of what they’re teaching...
No need to wonder, ask Luircin; he considered it a personal attack on him.
If you wish I'll PM you a link to the deleted article.
How old is Islam?
That's what Luther thought, also.
That's interesting. God intended for some "not to be within the body of Christ HIS church"?
Thank God for Father Luther. Oops, call no man father. Thank God for BROTHER Luther. How do you suppose all those Catholic are going to feel in Heaven, having to sit next to brother Luther forever? Wont that be a trip? 😆🤯
I wonder how many Catholics would rather go to Hell than be with Luther in eternal life?
I think I see one on this very thread.
This coming from the guy who went crying to the moderator when I accurately accused him of telling falsehoods.
So were you lying about never insulting me, or is your memory THAT bad?
Or maybe it’s just the usual temper tantrum.
But really. Answer the question. Why did you repeat falsehoods, especially after I proved they were false?
Ouch. Thats going to leave a scar. I believe it is true, however, that everyone in Hell, will be there, because they chose to be there. One of the worst things about being in Hell, 🔥 will be memory. They will remember every time someone tried to tell them the truth. They will remember every chance they had, to choose Heaven, and they deliberately chose Hell, and it will haunt them forever. Oh well, they can blame no one but themselves.
I believe that is a question, that many of us would like answered, but I dont have 3 million years, to wait for an answer. 😱 🤯👎
Thereby throwing Catholic folks like you ET; who have spent a LIFETIME (it seems) just foaming at the mouth over anything Lutherian; hating everything about him and any who read 'his' bible, or attend one of 'his' churches.
Seems like a good place to stand your ground...
NIV 1 Corinthians 4:6
Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written."Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.
But this is just St. Paul.
Who gives a rat's patootie what HE has written?
The things up with which you will put!
Pope Stephen VI (896897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (10321044, 1045, 10471048), who "sold" the Papacy
Pope Boniface VIII (12941303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
Pope Urban VI (13781389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]
Pope Alexander VI (14921503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]
Pope Leo X (15131521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]
Pope Clement VII (15231534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
Good question!
Acts 15 Version 1.54
The Council at Fresno...
1 Certain Catholics came from all across the world to FreeRepublic and were trying to convince the believers: "Unless you are Catechized, according to the custom taught by Rome, you cannot be saved." 2 This brought Elsie and Metmom ETAL into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Elsie and Metmom were appointed, along with some other believers, to lurk on FR to see the Catholics and NON about this question. 3 The Holy Spirit sent them on their way, and as they traveled through the Religion Forum, they told how the NON-Catholics had been converted. This news made all the Protestants very glad. 4 When they came to FR, they were scorned by members of the ONE TRUE church, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Catholics stood up and said, "The Protestants must be baptisted correctly and required to keep the laws of Rome!"
6 The posters met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Metmom got up and addressed them: "Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Protestants might hear from our fingers the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Protestants a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."
12 The whole of FR became silent (Yeah; THAT's gonna happen!) as they listened to Elsie and Metmom telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Protestants. 13 When they finished, Boatbums spoke up. "Brothers," she said, "listen to me. 14 MGinTN has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:
16 "'After this I will return
and rebuild Rome's fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
and I will restore it,
17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
even all the Protestants who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things'
18 things known from long ago.19 "It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Protestants who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from vision and apparations, from Brown Scapulas, from the endless repetitions of the ROSARY and from so-called blood. 21 For the laws of Rome has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the sanctuaries on every Sunday."
The Council's Letter to Gentile Believers
22 Then the posters and lurkers, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Fresno with Mark17 and Tennessee Nana. They chose Daniel121 (called Wise) and eagleone, men who were leaders among the believers. 23 With them they sent the following letter:The apostles and elders, your brothers,
To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:
Greetings.
24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.
Farewell.
30 So the men were sent off and continued to post on FR, where they gathered the people together and delivered the GOSPEL. 31 The people (most all except Salvation and Vlademir998) read it and were glad for its encouraging message.
Do you really think God is impressed with longevity or big crowds?
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