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1 posted on 11/23/2016 7:05:18 AM PST by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Monsignor Pope Ping!


2 posted on 11/23/2016 7:07:04 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

It is interesting how artistic renderings over the centuries put their own spin on this topic.

For example, most artistic representations of the Virgin Mary that you see show her either with Nordic features, or being very Italian looking.

I was struck by a recent statue that depicted her looking like a young Jewish girl....much like she must have actually looked.


3 posted on 11/23/2016 7:10:42 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Salvation

WWJD?

Flipping over tables and chasing people with a whip is an option.


4 posted on 11/23/2016 7:12:32 AM PST by Gamecock (Gun owner. Christian. Pro-American. Pro Law and Order. I am in the basket of deplorables.)
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To: Salvation; metmom; Lera; editor-surveyor

Once again Msgr Charles Pope nails another epistle to the electronic door for all to see an important aspect of the Gospel!

“When the crowds objected to Jesus’ teachings (such as His teaching on the Eucharist at Capernaum), He did not reconsider His words or go out and hire a public relations firm to improve His image. He did not conduct focus groups to test out His words and ideas. No, Jesus doubled down on disputed teachings and then asked His disciples if they were going to desert Him. He had an urgent mission to convey the truth, not debate it at length with detractors.”


6 posted on 11/23/2016 7:27:30 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Salvation

I like this. I have often preached to others about the image, personality and character of Jesus is misrepresented.

Jesus was a VERY strong leader (in human terms). He had passion, conviction and was decisive. He didn’t waffle or waiver. He often, in fact usually, created turmoil and angst for Authorities (usually within the Jewish Community and religious leaders. AND he was very compassionate, understanding, forgiving and gentle. He was able to earn followers and loyalty even after being direct about what that loyalty and commitment would mean for them. People rallied around him. Many wanted him to be a king and take on the Romans.

Think of the great leaders in history (both good and bad). Churchill, Reagan, Thatcher, Pope John Paul II, even Hitler. They had charisma and charm. But they were bold and unwavering. AND they had the confidence of their followers because they preached about their love and loyalty to their followers. God loves you and I love you and you need to love each other in this way was as much as an order as it was a message. And it was well received by the people of Jesus.


7 posted on 11/23/2016 7:27:33 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: Salvation

Made me want to jump up and holler, “YEAH!!!” (fist pump...)


15 posted on 11/23/2016 7:53:36 AM PST by redhead (WEAPONIZED PRAYE R WORKS!)
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To: Salvation

The show with “Father Albert” where Ann Coulter argued against single mothers (discussed in another thread) is a perfect example of what being a truth teller gets you: SCORN.

Ann was absolutely truthful but the host and the audience basically rose as one to “stone her” with humiliation and contempt. Uncomfortable to watch towards the end.

Contrast this with the cotton candy reception many famous preachers get from their cottage industry of books, tapes and videos. They get fawned over, Ann gets regularly jeered and mocked. Hmmm.

https://youtu.be/gSoKoDS179c


16 posted on 11/23/2016 7:55:01 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Salvation

It’s a tad strange what Msgr Pope does on his “Images” video, but -— on second or third thought, that’s OK.

I think that’s rather the point: Jesus is strange Because He’s God, and God will always strike us as weird: disturbingly outside of our expected categories.


18 posted on 11/23/2016 7:58:36 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Just when I discovered the meaning of life, they changed it." - George Carlin)
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To: Salvation

Pretty right on I think.

One thing is, he sure didn’t wear clerical garb and all the high-fallootin’ stuff that priests, bishops and the Pope wear - and would have been aghast at any suggestion to do so.

Priestly garb is just a more modern version of what the high priest and Pharisee’s wore - the one’s who arranged and called for Jesus death......


20 posted on 11/23/2016 8:01:25 AM PST by Arlis
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To: Salvation

Another really good piece by Charles Pope who has become one of my must-reads.


22 posted on 11/23/2016 8:06:45 AM PST by marron
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To: Salvation

Since I have actually READ the bible, I know the Real Jesus.

So I am NOT surprised.

The author quotes the following scripture.

Matthew 7: (NIV) The Narrow and Wide Gates

13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

One of the most PROFOUND statements in scripture.

The percentage of people going to heaven (FEW) is VERY SMALL compared to the percentage of people going to Hell (MANY) is HUGE.

REPENT! Ask for forgiveness. Accept Jesus as Lord and His free gift of eternal life in heaven with Him.

OR

Spend eternity without God, without any chance of parole or mercy, in ETERNAL anguish and suffering that DOES NOT END.

THERE ARE NO SECOND CHANCES. You decide in THIS life whether you will accept Jesus on His terms or you don’t.

Heaven if you do, Hell if you don’t. Period! FOREVER.


33 posted on 11/23/2016 8:18:56 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Salvation

For later


34 posted on 11/23/2016 8:23:36 AM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking"..J.C. Watts)
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Good Msgr Pope ping.


53 posted on 11/23/2016 9:22:42 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Salvation

Msgr. Pope is ALWAYS a good read, but he especially showed his genius in this article.

Thank you for posting...


57 posted on 11/23/2016 9:30:53 AM PST by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Salvation; cyn; amorphous
"Everybody knows" that the Messiah won't look or act like that gentle, fair-complexioned fellow depicted in Western religious traditions since forever.

And "everybody knows" to believe in the trinity as well.

And "everybody knows" a lot of other stuff that nobody should dare question.

There will be many shocking surprises in the coming days. Nothing should be a shock though, especially with the benefit of the literal political parable that is unfolding right before our eyes.

Trump : the political Establishment :: Messiah : religious Establishment

Flipped over tables and seats. Sounds pretty rough and tumble, but no need to lay a hand. The Establishments will be turned upside down from the dead weight of the religiously correct doctrines in their heads.

The Messiah's kingdom is not of this world, so neither are his weapons and punishments.

One man's Lake of Fire is another man's refinery.

63 posted on 11/23/2016 9:55:21 AM PST by Ezekiel (All who mourn(ed!) the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Salvation
The Real Jesus of Scripture Might Surprise You

So would the REAL Mary!!


All the Words of Mary...
...as recorded in the Bible.

 
 ...To the angel
“How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” 
Mary answered. “May it be to me as you have said.”   (Luke 1:30-38)
 
 
...To Elizabeth
And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has been mindful of the humble state of his servant. From now on all generations will call me blessed, for the Mighty One has done great things for me—holy is his name. His mercy extends to those who fear him, from generation to generation. He has performed mighty deeds with his arm; he has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts. He has brought down rulers from their thrones but has lifted up the humble. He has filled the hungry with good things but has sent the rich away empty. He has helped his servant Israel, remembering to be merciful to Abraham and his descendants forever, even as he said to our fathers.” (Luke 1:46-55)
 

 ...To Jesus
His mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you.”  (Luke 2:48-50)
 

... at Cana
And when the wine gave out, the mother of Jesus said to Him, “They have no wine.”
His mother said to the servants, “Whatever He says to you, do it” (John 2:3-5).
 
 

79 posted on 11/23/2016 12:36:52 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Salvation

She was not fazed, and simply replied, “I know He never said that.”


Everyone has their own personal Jesus .......................


115 posted on 11/23/2016 4:12:54 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Salvation

It was my understanding that the Old Testament said He would be rather unassuming looking. But I also thought there was a New Testament reference to the fact that he was striking in appearance and that there was something magnetic about him.

I thought striking might have meant that he was taller than the average man of the time and unusual in some way.


146 posted on 11/24/2016 8:38:38 AM PST by Melian (America, bless God. God, bless America.)
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This was not what I expected. Usually an article about “the real Jesus” departs entirely from the biblical texts. Large portions of this could be, or perhaps should be, written in the present tense, because Jesus is not just a figure of history. He lives and rules to all eternity. Introduce second person voicing and it becomes a sermon of substance.


149 posted on 11/24/2016 8:56:10 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (Lock. Her. Up.)
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