[marshmallow]

Francis: Church has One Year to Mature

Read...."drink Kasper's Kool Aid and get with the program."

In the Meantime, its Doors are Wide Open

As always with +Francis, the inevitable straw man. When have they ever been shut? When has the Church ever turned away repentant sinners?

[Westbrook]

> When has the Church ever turned away repentant sinners?

Never. But the key word in your rhetorical question is, “repentant”.

Repentance is apparently no longer a requirement for certain sexual sins, like serial polygamy, sodomy, and other queer sexual behaviors.

[namvolunteer]

Jesuit casuistry. What were they thinking?

[GeronL]

now we still have one year to mature

What does that mean?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Frances and Obola are peas in a pod.

[BJ1]

>>>As always with +Francis, the inevitable straw man. When have they ever been shut? When has the Church ever turned away repentant sinners?<<<

So often on a religious themed thread, somebody will put in a reply calling the Catholic Church, THE ONE TRUE CHURCH. This is to call protestant churches fake I guess, as much as a Pope did himself.

In 2007 Pope Benedict XVI was insisting they (Protestant churches) were mere “ecclesial communities” and their ministers effectively phonies with no right to give communion.

Now what? The Catholic Church is about to concede on some very big issues. What makes a Catholic Church worthy of spending your time and devotion when basic and fundamental tenants do not stand the test time. Remember what happened to purgatory? Now gays and divorcees.

[ConservingFreedom]

“the temptation to a destructive tendency to goodness, that in the name of a deceptive mercy binds the wounds without first curing them and treating them.” [...] “the temptation to neglect the “depositum fidei” [the deposit of faith], not thinking of themselves as guardians but as owners or masters [of it]

It's good to see His Holiness identify these as "temptations."

[detective]

Jesus said, “Go and sin no more.”

Pope Francis said come in and keep sinning as much as you want.

[tbpiper]

In the Meantime, its Doors are Wide Open

Very United Methodist of him. You know thier motto "Open Minds, Open Hearts, Open Sewers" or something like that.

[John O]

Is the pope Catholic?

That’s not rhetorical anymore. I really want to know. Everything this pope does seems to run counter to biblical truth. Apparently the Cardinals elected a heretic.

[Hostage]

I am not a just person, at least not always. I am a chronic sinner who struggles everyday to be a better person.

I would never ever think of bringing my sinful nature into the Church. When I enter the Church it is my sanctuary, it is the environment that banishes the sinful part of my nature and forces me to leave it at the church door.

But the homosexuals do not seek to leave their sin at the door. In fact, they are not even in agreement that their choice is a sin. They seek to bring their sin inside the Church and coerce if necessary that the Church recognize them as normal.

I have no idea what this Pope is trying to do. He may be entirely in agreement with what I write here. But he has not made it clear and he has all means to make it clear.

[CdMGuy]

Francis: “Church has One Year to Mature.” Yes Francis, and you demonstrated your level of maturity by banishing Cardinal Burke and removing him from being the head of the Church’s highest court to an honorary position overseeing the Knights of Malta.

Francis is the faux humility Pope whose true colors have been on exhibit at this synod. Francis, the Jesuit who hides behind the robes of men like Cardinal Kasper. Now, he will spend the next year purging all those Bishops, Archbishops and Cardinals who are not in agreement with his Jesuit ways.

[Jeff Chandler]

[Campion]

The headline is very misleading. He didn't say "the Church has one year to mature," he said "the Church has one year to mature the ideas in the relatio". This synod was the preliminary meeting to the synod next year; that's all it means.

[Secret Agent Man]

putting a time demand on this is kinda like the libtards who claim we have five years, etc, to change or the earth will be lost.

[MrB]

“mature”

Become more “sophisticated”?

Webster’s 1828 (original meaning of the word):

SOPHIST’ICATE, verb transitive

1. To adulterate; to corrupt by something spurious or foreign; to pervert; as, to sophisticate nature, philosophy or the understanding.

[Tax-chick]

Dear brothers and sisters, now we still have one year to mature, with true spiritual discernment, the proposed ideas ...

He said, "... to mature the proposed ideas." One must assume the headline is intentionally erroneous.

[DannyTN]

One Year? Does he know something the rest of us don’t.

[DannyTN]

One Year? Does he know something the rest of us don’t.

[Salvation]

Isn’t the church already mature after 2000 years?

[ealgeone]

The Deposit of Faith is the body of saving truth entrusted by Christ to the Apostles and handed on by them to be preserved and proclaimed. Jesus ordered them to teach the nations "everything I have commanded you" and assured them "know that I am with you always, until the end of the world." (Mt 28:18-20). The metaphor of a "deposit" suggests that this teaching is an inexhaustible treasure, that rewards reflection and study with new insights and deeper penetration into the mystery of the divine economy of salvation [God's plan for saving mankind]. Although the Church's understanding of this teaching can and does develop, it can never be augmented in substance.

Source: http://www.catholicfaithandreason.org/the-deposit-of-faith-and-the-holy-spirit-of-god.html

Sounds like catholics talk out of both sides of their mouths. These "new insights" which "can and does develop" but is never augmented.

Talk about having your cake and eating it too.

Guess the pope needs to re-read some of the teachings of the church.

I guess all this hopey/change (gee, where have we heard that before??) happens when man-made tradition is allowed to supplant the Word.