>>>As always with +Francis, the inevitable straw man. When have they ever been shut? When has the Church ever turned away repentant sinners?<<<
So often on a religious themed thread, somebody will put in a reply calling the Catholic Church, THE ONE TRUE CHURCH. This is to call protestant churches fake I guess, as much as a Pope did himself.
In 2007 Pope Benedict XVI was insisting they (Protestant churches) were mere “ecclesial communities” and their ministers effectively phonies with no right to give communion.
Now what? The Catholic Church is about to concede on some very big issues. What makes a Catholic Church worthy of spending your time and devotion when basic and fundamental tenants do not stand the test time. Remember what happened to purgatory? Now gays and divorcees.
Don't hold your breath.
Remember what happened to purgatory?
No - what?
No. He noted that Churches and clergy offer sacrifices. Without a sacrifice, there is no altar and with no altar there is no church. Protestant communities were simply that... communities of believers--but not churches since they deny the real sacrifice of Christ in the Eucharist.
Besides... if you don't believe in his authority, why do you care what he said?
The Catholic Church is about to concede on some very big issues. What makes a Catholic Church worthy of spending your time and devotion when basic and fundamental tenants do not stand the test time.
I'll tell you what... sane people will wait and pray before hyperventilating on what the Church hasn't yet done.
Remember what happened to purgatory?
No... what?
Instead, they teach total insanity about praying to a goddess and other dead humans as the pagans do, placing themselves between people and Christ, prophecies from terrified children and worshipping statues and relics among other demented acts. This includes Frankie-Boy the First, a man who I am convinced is a dedicated Socialist.
You are overreacting. What was published was a mere draft of a few bishops and it was blown out of the water. This is a pastoral document on how in a global Church one may reach the sinners and outcasts. It is emphatically not a teaching of the Magisterium and does not dilute the Catholic Credo or the Catechism for all Catholics in all places for all time.
So often on a religious themed thread, somebody will put in a reply calling the Catholic Church, THE ONE TRUE CHURCH. This is to call protestant churches fake I guess, as much as a Pope did himself.
Hi BJ1, there are many ways that people think about the relationship between the Catholic church and the protestant churches. Some of these ways could generate agreement between Protestants and Catholics, though most would likely be examples of our disagreement. The very name Protestant implies a disagreement over something very fundamental, and the nature and role of the Catholic church is one of those things.
Where in Marshamallow's comment do you see the part about the Catholic Church being the ONE TRUE CHURCH in all capital letters? He was talking about the Pope and I think we would all agree that the Pope's church is the Catholic Church, so in context Marshmallow is talking about the Catholic Church. It's doors are always open.
If someone said "the doors to Store 24 must always be open" and someone replied "When have they ever been shut? When has the store ever turned away customers?" I don't think that would imply that they believe that Store 24 is THE ONE TRUE STORE in all capital letters, though they may also think that's true.
Nothing happened to Purgatory.
I confess my ignorance. Are there Protestant Churches that believe and proclaim they they have a Eucharist which is not simply a symbol, but a real, living sacrifice involving Jesus' actual Body and Blood?
Thinking ...
Stumped me again. What did happen to Purgatory?