Posted on 12/23/2013 7:16:44 PM PST by Uri’el-2012
Why I believe the Rapture of the Church
will take place between December 25, 2013,
and January 4, 2014
The Lord has been giving me pieces to a puzzle for the last 13 years, leading me to the date for the firstfruits Rapture of the Church. The puzzle ends between December 25, 2013, and January 4, 2014. I very strongly believe that the Rapture will take place on January 3/4, 2014. However, it is possible that the puzzle can end as early as December 25, 2013.
A believer who steps out of fellowship, exposes himself to demonic influence, and the thoughts he entertains, might not be those of the Holy Spirit.
A more rigorous study from both OT doctrines and NT doctrines provides a more thorough pretrib wisdom by the grace of God the Holy Spirit.
The seals being broken commence with the beginning of the 70th week. The 7th seal ushers in the Trumpet Judgments. Of the Trumpet Judgments, the 7th ushers in the 7 Bowl Judgments.
The seal judgments and the trumpet judgments are before the mid-trib revelations, while the bowl judgments are latter trib judgments.
then don’t..
>> “For all our friends trying to live by the law...” <<
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A mostly nonexistent group imagined up by the faith rejecting “Gracists.”
When Paul spoke of “the law” he was not discussing Torah, but the false oral torah of the Pharisees. Yeshua’s second most important task here on Earth was rebuking the Pharisees and their oral traditions.
Living with Torah written on your heart is what Yeshua came to promote. Living with a love of pleasing him by following his words is not “Salvation by works.” It is enduring in faith that we will be saved on that day when he comes in the cloud with his angels.
Paul circumcised Timothy to make his life less complicated.
Same thing CAL used to post when she was drunk.
How could I forget something that is NOT written?
“Pretrib wisdom” has to be the oxymoron of the ages.
Wisdom and the Holy Spirit set the demonically hopeless pretribbers free to see Yehova’s well presented plan.
The first seal was opened centuries before the 70th week. The seals have nothing to do with the 70th week, they are the stages of decay of the governments of men. That is the sad situation that grasping at escapism leaves one foundering in.
The trumpets are not judgments, they are announcements. Judgment begins with the 7th trump. it ends just a few days later with Babylon defeated.
It is written throughout the book of Romans.
“..... Living with Torah written on your heart is what Yeshua came to promote.....”
Ah...no....Jesus came to sacrifice His life in our place for what we otherwise deserve. That was His mission and has nothing to do with what we can or not do to earn His favor....we can do nothing to earn Gods favor to earn Salvation...
So It’s “Christ in me the hope of Glory”...and that by His Spirit given us...not learning or having “the Torah written on the heart” as you’ve stated.
Jesus either did it all for us or HE did nothing at all...there is no middle ground of any merit on our part to earn brownie points...for all our righteousness is like filthy rags apart from His Spirits working.
Sorry,.... but after reading back-thread you seem to have a very long way to go before you have an understanding of who Jesus is and what He came here to do...let alone about the judgement and order of what’s yet to come.
When the basics of Christianity and Salvation through Christ are not understood rightly then it’s very difficult to get the rest right. You appear to have gone off the road somewhere along the line as you sound much confused even if you might not think that you are.
Gracists??? Talk about a nonexistent group!
Thought I was one of the few burning the late night oil...
Trust you had a good Christmas and ready for this New Year Boatbums. I’m up for a New Year and anxious to see what it might bring.
Thank you and I pray you had a great Christmas, as well. I’m getting off to bed now. Have a good weekend.
Christ said he would come like a thief in the night and that we would basically not be able to know the time, so good luck with that and the waste of your time.
Goodnight and sleep well.....you have a good weekend as well...
Such are your words.
Yesterday.
Upon what do you base that conclusion? Paul talks extensively about the written law-not an oral law throughout his writings; the most detailed account being Romans. To the Galatians he writes:
Because God is love and knowing we can't meet His perfection, He gave us His Son. The Father understands our rebellious nature. Christ is our perfection and when He sees us, He sees the perfection of our Lord-not our rebellious attitudes. As Paul writes, if God has given us His grace so that we don't have to meet the standard of the Torah, why on earth would we want to try? Especially if we understand that our hearts desire is really to be rebellious towards God. Instead of trying to live a perfect life, God wants us to see our imperfections and repent-coming to Him for our failures and weaknesses. He wants us to turn to Him and be healed.
Failure to understand this concept, as Paul told the Galatians, is failure to understand the gospel.
What is thy servant, that thou shouldest look upon such a dead dog as I am?
Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord.
I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. (2 Samuel 9:8,Luke 5:8,Hebrews 13:5)
PROVE it.
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