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1 posted on 10/26/2011 5:04:32 PM PDT by Gamecock
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2 posted on 10/26/2011 5:06:40 PM PDT by Gamecock (“I’m so thankful for [the] active obedience of Christ. No hope without it.” JGM)
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Joel’s must be a cheezewhiz kinda church. http://cheezewhizchurch.blogspot.com/


4 posted on 10/26/2011 5:34:55 PM PDT by jwalburg (I live in the 57th state.)
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...you can build a crowd without building a church.

? He's got the largest one in the nation.

I think what Joel is saying is that anyone who confesses Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savoir is a Christian. The Bible says we're saved by GRACE through FAITH in Jesus Christ, not by belonging to the right church.

Yes the LDS Church is a false doctrine church, but I'm sure there are born-again Christians that go there not yet realizing its problems. God works from the inside out.

Joel is not a "heretic hunter." That's not his ministry. He's a Pastor and and encourager. His church helps many people come to a saving faith in Jesus Christ and helps many all over the world. They're the real deal. I've been a committed Christian for 40+ years and have been going to his church for two and a half years. He preaches God's Word in the anointing of the Holy Spirit every Sunday.

He comes from a solid background and from a solid Christian family whose dad, John, was a well respected pastor and man of God. Joel also is well respected among recognized leaders in the Christian Church including Billy Graham.

5 posted on 10/26/2011 5:40:11 PM PDT by PapaNew
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another baptist attack on joel osteen.

jealous of the osteen family’s success.

perry recently responded in public politely; that’s probably all one will get in today’s media wars.


6 posted on 10/26/2011 5:41:00 PM PDT by ken21
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“I believe that [Mormons] are Christians . . . . I don’t know if it’s the purest form of Christianity, like I grew up with. But you know what, I know Mormons. I hear Mitt Romney - and I’ve never met him - but I hear him say, ‘I believe Jesus is the son of God,’ ‘I believe he’s my savior,’ and that’s one of the core issues.”

“I’m sure there are other issues that we don’t agree on. But you know, I can say that the Baptists and the Methodists and the Catholics don’t all agree on everything. So that would be my take on it”....

....Joel reminded the paper’s staff that he has never attended seminary.

"Can someone tell me what Joel is about in 20 words or less?"

Sheesh - that's easy. The real challenge is to tell what Joel is about in 21 words or more.
-- Alex Murphy, Nov 5, 2007 exchange, on the thread Joel Olsteen Joins With Catholics To Convert Confused Protestants

Related threads:
Joel Osteen converts to MORMONISM?
Joel Osteen and Why Theology Matters, Again
Joel Osteen Heresy Gauge

10 posted on 10/26/2011 6:03:20 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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“I believe that [Mormons] are Christians . . . . I don’t know if it’s the purest form of Christianity, like I grew up with.”

Now that statement tells you a lot about Osteen, not the purest form of Christianity!LOL, either you are Christian or you are not, there is no in between!


11 posted on 10/26/2011 6:07:19 PM PDT by longhorn too
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Wow. Rips Osteen a new one.

And Osteen’s comments are as shallow as I’ve ever heard anyplace.


14 posted on 10/26/2011 6:14:16 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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OSTEEN: I probably don’t get hung up in them because I haven’t really studied them or thought about them

Maybe he should have before speaking....

15 posted on 10/26/2011 6:23:56 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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“Part of our core message is that seasons change, and when you believe, if you don’t get bitter, and you don’t get discouraged, you may not change overnight, but you can get peace.”"People need to be reminded that every day is a gift from God, and bloom where you’re planted and be happy where you are, and to make that choice to get up every day and be grateful." J.O.

Huh? What does that mean? It's just piled up platitudes. It's like the jargon got away from him.

I don’t know if it’s the purest form of Christianity, like I grew up with.

Hmm. His daddy way a Word 'o Faith pastor.

By now, it is clear that Joel Osteen’s carelessness is deliberate and calculated.

Scary.

16 posted on 10/26/2011 6:32:55 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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I am a Mormon, and I believe that Jesus Christ is my personal savior, and that through his atonement I can have my sins forgiven, and therefore be clean and acceptable to my Father in Heaven.

The Bible Says: “Judge not, that ye be not judged, For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again” Mathew 7:1-2

So taking the above scripture literally: If God finds me an acceptable Christian, yet you sequester God’s Judgment and declare me as a LDS(mormon) a non-Christian .... Then God potentially will boomerang your sequestered judgment by declaring you a Non-Christian?

So Go ahead and join the party!


18 posted on 10/26/2011 6:42:43 PM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country)
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I was clearing some bookshelves and ran across a book that highlighted different religions. The Mormon section was not the detail your article was but it correlated the timelines. One thing it said was that Mormons teach that African Americans are descendants of Ham and are black because their ancestors sinned.

Reading what this book said I don’t know how Joel Osteen could declare that Mormons are Christians, even nominally. Have you ever heard Romney say that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, died for the salvation of those who believe and was resurrected on the third day. Or anything similar? I would like to see the quote because Osteen says he has heard it from Romney.


20 posted on 10/26/2011 6:51:47 PM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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“Part of our core message is that seasons change, and when you believe, if you don’t get bitter, and you don’t get discouraged, you may not change overnight, but you can get peace.”

What is this idiot talking about now? This sounds like something the Bamster would read from his telemprompter. Doesn’t Joel know that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever (Hebrews 13:8), not when the “seasons change” or whatever else Osteen has conjured up in his nothing statement.


25 posted on 10/26/2011 7:12:01 PM PDT by Joann37
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This guy and other false prosperity preachers are going to fail big time. We have seen it before. His kind give a bib black eye to Christianity. He is nothing but a FAT CAT scammer.


27 posted on 10/26/2011 7:15:58 PM PDT by therut
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Joel Osteen is NOT an authority on anything, except how to make millions off the people who come to his ‘Mega Church’. Joel is a master at manipulation...he manipulates his congregation, his TV followers, and the media. And Joel definately not an authority on ‘religions’. Does he know who Yehshua, Jesus, the Son of God really is? Does he buy the Morman teaching that says Jesus and Satan are brothers?

God help him find the real Jesus.


34 posted on 10/26/2011 9:16:13 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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I think you guys have a screwy idea of what it means to be a Christian. If a Mormon is Saved by Grace through Jesus Christ, they are a Christian. Just because the church has some wacky beliefs doesn’t mean every member walks in locked step with that belief. A quick perusal of Anti-Mormon sites shows that a lot of members don’t exactly toe the line even though they still attend church.

Ya’ll starting to get that Pharisee thing down to a science.


52 posted on 10/27/2011 6:18:45 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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Here we go again. Joel Osteen is in the news once again, this time for saying that Mormonism is just another form of Christianity.
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Well when you have an unvetted board of advisories running your ministry and you wont bother to preach fromn the Bible so nobody gets their feelings hurt, this is what you get...

I knew his father John Osteen quite well..

John must be tired from all that rolling in his grave over the years...


62 posted on 10/27/2011 8:25:58 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (If we give Sandy a ladder will she preach from the temple roof)
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Does Joel Osteen Not Know, or Does He Not Care?

Well; according to what he is QUOTED as saying...

Joel said: “I believe that [Mormons] are Christians . . . . I don’t know if it’s the purest form of Christianity, like I grew up with. But you know what, I know Mormons. I hear Mitt Romney - and I’ve never met him - but I hear him say, ‘I believe Jesus is the son of God,’ ‘I believe he’s my savior,’ and that’s one of the core issues.”

73 posted on 10/28/2011 5:08:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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