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Some Scientists Think SARS May Have Come from Outer Space
LONDON (Reuters) ^ | May 22, 2003 | Patricia Reaney

Posted on 05/22/2003 5:47:54 PM PDT by TaxRelief

LONDON (Reuters) - Could SARS have come from outer space? Some scientists think so.

Instead of jumping from an unknown animal host in southern China, a few researchers in Britain believe the virus that has baffled medical experts descended from the stratosphere.

"I think it is a possibility that SARS came from space. It is a very strong possibility," Professor Chandra Wickramasinghe told Reuters.

The director of the Cardiff Center for Astrobiology in Wales and a proponent of the theory that life on Earth originated from space, admits the theory defies conventional wisdom.

But in a letter published in The Lancet medical journal on Friday he and his colleagues argue there are too many puzzling aspects about the respiratory illness that has killed nearly 700 people and infected more than 3,800 to dismiss the idea.

Other virologists believe it simply isn't possible because the virus is too fragile to survive in outer space.

"I think it is completely nuts," said Dr Anne Bridgen, a molecular virologist at the University of Ulster.

"It has a lipid (fatty) coat on the outside and it would tend to dry out in an atmosphere such as space," she told Reuters.

Professor Ian Jones, an expert in virology at the University of Reading in southern England, described the idea as bizarre.

"SARS is a new virus but it is only a new relative of a family of viruses that we understand quite well," he said, referring to the coronavirus family which includes a virus linked to the common cold.

"The difference is that it is a causing a severity of disease that we haven't seen before in the human population."

Wickramasinghe stressed that SARS suddenly appeared in China late last year and is a new coronavirus with a different genetic sequence from similar viruses in animals. Its origin has also not been traced. He believes these factors could suggest it evolved differently and may have come from a far-off place.

"There doesn't seem to have been a human origin for this. It seems to have come from somewhere else," said Dr Milton Wainwright, a molecular biologist at the University of Sheffield in England and a co-author of the letter.

"There is a lot of debate about where it could have come from and we are providing an answer," he added.

Wickramasinghe said there is no known virus that has fallen from outer space. "There is no known virus that has been picked up from high in the stratosphere," he said. "Not to date."

Yet Wickramasinghe and Wainwright believe the original outbreak in China is also significant because if the virus did fall to Earth it would most likely land east of the Himalayas, the weakest point in the stratosphere and easiest to break through.

In studies of air samples taken from 25 miles above the Earth, large numbers of micro-organisms were found, Wickramasinghe said, so it is possible SARS came from space.

"The fact that many cases in China cannot be traced to infected people means that something is dreadfully amiss in the idea of conventional wisdom," he said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: astronomy; china; cryptobiology; extremophiles; fakescience; godsgravesglyphs; humor; itcamefromouterspace; panspermia; sars; science; tinfoilhat; wickramasinghe; xplanets
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To: Betty Jo
Oh, I didn't consider the possibility of terrorism.. Hmmm.. Yes, that's much more plausible than a national military experimenting with a coronavirus. In the event, then it's doubtful in the extreme that they could also have developed a vaccine, since coronaviridae mutate so rapidly and major pharmaceutical firms have been unable to crack the problem.

One question: why do you suppose terrorists would've released such a thing in China of all places??
81 posted on 05/22/2003 7:23:15 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: aristeides
Perhaps the Doc who thinks that SARS is from space is telling us that there were some other animal "covert experiments" along for the ride, and that they too survived, with maybe some additional goodies.

And maybe,just maybe,these additional goodies are the little critters we call SARS.
82 posted on 05/22/2003 7:24:09 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: All
SARS 'came from space' .
83 posted on 05/22/2003 7:24:26 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: AntiGuv
I would say, because the Chinese have no...

It didn't have to be the Chinese. It could have been done on purpose by anyone who developed SARS or by anyone who was supplied with SARS or by anyone (e.g., an employee) who stole it from the developer or from someone else who had possession of it. All possibilities should be considered.

84 posted on 05/22/2003 7:27:01 PM PDT by Consort
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To: TaxRelief
So everyone would say it cane from the dirty pigs and ducks and chickens and exotic animal chefs, and dirty sewers and.....
85 posted on 05/22/2003 7:29:09 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: aristeides; Darksheare
So, if the worms survived, maybe something else (smaller), that we were working on, survived....

86 posted on 05/22/2003 7:29:16 PM PDT by TaxRelief (I just got a shiver down my spine)
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To: Jhoffa_
I think "it" came from a bio-weapons research facility somewhere, myself.

"Monkeys made it - in Guongdong province (so I'm told by my primate friends still in-the-know still and still 'with the company')"

87 posted on 05/22/2003 7:29:28 PM PDT by _Jim (http://www.biomedcentral.com/news/20030320/09/)
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To: TaxRelief

88 posted on 05/22/2003 7:29:56 PM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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Sheila Jackson Lee bump
89 posted on 05/22/2003 7:30:52 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Betty Jo
Why? does it always come back to fecal matter?
90 posted on 05/22/2003 7:33:44 PM PDT by TaxRelief (you beat me on that shuttle-SARS post. LOL!)
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To: AntiGuv
I agree - all I'm saying is that it sounds as if she may be sarcastic (with understatement).. I dunno, it can be as hard to read sarcasm in newsprint as it is on the Internet..

Yeah, it's bad when someone is being sarcastic here on FR but it's not obvious and they don't tell anyone and then there's a 20 post exchange on whether the person was being sarcastic or not. Dyoh!

91 posted on 05/22/2003 7:34:29 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: _Jim
Are your primate friends those 50 monkeys with 50 typewriters busy pecking away? Let me know when they publish.
92 posted on 05/22/2003 7:36:02 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: TaxRelief
"The virus is unexpectedly novel and appeared without warning in mainland China,"

I've got it - I'VE GOT IT - THIS *WAS* introduced into 'outer space' as a preemptive move by Chinese rockets in an attempt to sabotage US and Soviet efforts to dominate space ... it was either that or the 2nd stringers over there in the Communist Politburo running the bioweapons program LEAPT upon the idea of propagating this disease using high-altitude balloons - AND IT BACKFIRED!

The air current s weren't right - the jet-stream (oven) currents weren't right (they called for 240 VAC 50 Hz and they supplied US current at 117VAC 60 Hz) and they ended up infecting their own countrymen (and women - does SARS affect women?) ...

93 posted on 05/22/2003 7:36:54 PM PDT by _Jim (http://www.biomedcentral.com/news/20030320/09/)
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To: Betty Jo
You're no fun - you're a party pooper!

(So 'poop' somewhere else!)

94 posted on 05/22/2003 7:38:02 PM PDT by _Jim (http://www.biomedcentral.com/news/20030320/09/)
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To: Darksheare
"So I wrote the fictional story after reading it, off the premise that we were engineered."

You have company. Zecharia Sitchin, for example.
95 posted on 05/22/2003 7:38:08 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: TaxRelief
Ahh, are you not in the know about the Amoy Apartments and the leaky pipes?And the flu is always from China and the dirty pigs and the dirty ducks and the.....
96 posted on 05/22/2003 7:39:43 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Darksheare
Enjoyed your story! Have you been published?
97 posted on 05/22/2003 7:41:19 PM PDT by ladyinred (Thankful for the men and women in uniform)
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To: Consort
It could have been done on purpose by anyone who developed SARS

The NEXT big outbreak - canned SARS by Del Monte, after that it will be Frozen Desert SARS by Marie Calendar, just in time for Thanksgiving we'll have Gently smoked Honey-SARS and over Christmas everone can enjoy Fruitcake SARS and merrily and promptly forward that on to someone they 'care' for ...

98 posted on 05/22/2003 7:44:26 PM PDT by _Jim (http://www.biomedcentral.com/news/20030320/09/)
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To: TaxRelief
too crude

Additional from the darkside we have "It's not like the ride back was anything to get broken up about" or "breaking up is hard to do ..." ...

99 posted on 05/22/2003 7:49:41 PM PDT by _Jim (http://www.biomedcentral.com/news/20030320/09/)
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To: TaxRelief
too crude

Additional from the darkside we have "It's not like the ride back was anything to get broken up about" or "breaking up is hard to do ..." ...

100 posted on 05/22/2003 7:49:50 PM PDT by _Jim (http://www.biomedcentral.com/news/20030320/09/)
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