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"Raise Rush Limbaugh's Blood Pressure! Keep Salon in Business!"
Salon.com ^ | 22 February 2003 | David Talbot

Posted on 02/23/2003 2:49:10 PM PST by Gang of Five

Edited on 02/23/2003 2:56:44 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Dear Salon Reader,

Did you ever get the feeling that some people want you dead? Last week's flurry of news stories about Salon's imminent demise produced another wave of hate mail from those eager to dance on our grave. (The fact that Salon never seems to actually die -- despite the tone of absolute certainty in these perennial press obits that this time, yes, it MUST be going under! -- never diminishes these letter writers' bloodlust.)

Here's a sampling from this week's e-mail bag: A gentleman named David Owens jauntily greets us with, "Hey d---ks----rs! I just read you can't pay your rent. Where are all your liberal buddies now? Oh well." A Hugh Curd rejoices that "thank mohammad, your truly worthless rag is going to fail ... maybe you can get some fresh capital from your bug-chasing friends in san francisco or your terrorist buddies in north africa. you failed! move to france and smoke cowardly dong." Stan Willock offers these words of consolation to Salon readers: "[They] will still have PBS, where hundreds are misinformed and entertained at taxpayer expense, as well as CNN, ABC, CBS and NBC. All are losing viewers to the fair and balanced Fox News Channel and to conservative talk radio. Best of luck looking for a new job. Hopefully you qualify as a member of a preferred group (person of color, female, gay, lesbian, etc)." And these are the more genial letters! I'll spare you the ones spelling out the lurid physical punishments their writers would like to inflict on me personally, which would make even Saddam blush.

But the most sustained piece of anti-Salon vitriol came from our old friends at the Wall Street Journal's editorial pages, those forward-looking men and women who yearn for the glory days of McKinley, Coolidge and Hoover and who have -- praise mammon -- finally found it in the current administration. In the Friday edition of the Journal, New York Press founder Russ Smith, who ran the money-losing conservative weekly until finally throwing in the towel last year and conceding victory to the liberal Village Voice, gleefully predicts "financial ruin ... for Mr. Talbot and his backers." Yes, he must admit, Salon "has inexplicably survived the dot-com collapse" so far. But this time, Smith is certain, it's curtains for those "beautiful losers"! And like the grave-dancers in our e-mail bag, he's not going to miss us, either: "Personally, I find Salon one of the more offensive publications on the Web. It's not just the strident Bush-is-an-illegitimate-president philosophy ... It's Mr. Talbot himself who rubs me the wrong way."

While the failed newspaper publisher clearly has no affection for Salon -- or me -- we can take consolation from the fact that his New York Press readers did. In 2000, while Smith was still running the show there, New York Press readers named Salon "Best Web Magazine" in the paper's annual poll -- and Smith was kind enough to send us a handsome, glossy plaque to commemorate this expression of the popular will, which we still proudly display in our office lobby. (I don't want to jump to conclusions, but perhaps the reason Smith is out of the publishing business these days is that he was out of touch with his own readers.)

Salon -- and I -- take all these attacks in stride. As Ishmael Reed observed, "writin' is fightin'." When you publish a rambunctiously independent daily in a time marked by conservative backlash and martial fever, you're bound to make some enemies. And we're proud of those we've made over the years, from Ken Starr to John Ashcroft and, of course, the right-wing guidance counselors at the Wall Street Journal's editorial pages.

What gives us the courage to keep fighting is you, our readers. Your letters of support over the past week have far outnumbered the hate mail. Worried about the reports of Salon's financial difficulties, Jeffrey C. Grossman and Katherine Moschandreas wrote, "We are very concerned and want to know what we can do to help. We are Salon Premium members and rely on Salon to give us the straight story on politics, art and international relations. No other publication gives the kind of intellectual and critical analysis of so many important pieces of news, ideas and culture. Sometime we feel that you are the only source that we can turn to, and we recommend Salon to just about everyone we know. Please let us know what we can do to keep Salon going; we love Salon and want it to stay around."

Chris Broderick wrote, "As a subscriber, I don't really know what I can do, but damn, there's got to be a way. With the way things are now in the world, I really rely on you people to give the news that I perceive to be the truth. I am so goddam frustrated with the mainstream media and their neglect of truthful reporting. It's going to be like a death in the family if you guys go down."

Mark E. Michael e-mailed: "I stumbled on you a few years back and then told my wife and her sister about this great e-zine (as it was once called). You have given us some wonderful memories, but we don't want them to end. And we cannot let right-wing voices be the only ones heard. There are elements in the government that wish to silence dissent and do it permanently. There will be no marketplace of ideas, only the authorized, approved one ... How can Salon be saved?" Thank you.

-- David Talbot Editor

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: clintonlegacy; dotcom; dotcoms; greedyliberals; hrapbrown; internet; salon; salondeathwatch; salonstockwatch
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To: Drango
Both had the same question at the same time, didn't we?
41 posted on 02/23/2003 3:59:29 PM PST by HighWheeler
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To: Gang of Five
"You see there is this Vast Right Wing Conspiracy..."
42 posted on 02/23/2003 3:59:35 PM PST by Oztrich Boy
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To: HighWheeler
Salon's board seems a bit white, male, and bigotted.
43 posted on 02/23/2003 4:00:49 PM PST by blackdog ("But that's what I do" A quote from my Border Collie)
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To: Jim Robinson
Am I reading the chart correctly, It looks like Freerepublic lost 3/4 of it's users in one year???
44 posted on 02/23/2003 4:03:50 PM PST by qam1 (Free Upstate New York)
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To: blackdog
They are not black but they play one at work.
45 posted on 02/23/2003 4:07:00 PM PST by bmwcyle (Semper Gumby - Always Flexable)
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To: Enterprise
I have never heard Rush Limbaugh quote Salon. As a matter of fact, I have never heard ANYONE quote Salon.
46 posted on 02/23/2003 4:17:41 PM PST by gaspar
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To: Gang of Five
It's hard to be profitable when your typical reader expects everything for free, and wants someone else to pay for it...
47 posted on 02/23/2003 4:18:09 PM PST by Captainpaintball (The First Amendment is the FIRST refuge of a scoundrel!!!)
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To: Gang of Five
When you publish a rambunctiously independent daily...

Mmmm....about as independent as the DNC.

48 posted on 02/23/2003 4:23:13 PM PST by Magnolia
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To: clintonh8r
Rush doesn't have a message board or chat room, which means that his listeners can get in and out of there in about 10-15 minutes.

Salon has a message board and discussion forums, which keep its traffic up. Plus a bunch lefties who go to the site 4x a day because they think it's their civic duty.

It would be nice if Mr. Talbot gave any indication of caring even a little bit about shareholders who have lost 99.9% of their investment. Of course, he doesn't.
49 posted on 02/23/2003 4:29:27 PM PST by litany_of_lies
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To: Gang of Five
They haven't a prayer; anyone who can read is a Republican; as long as they print text their target market should be Republican. Now if they put pictures up instead of text then liberals could understand the message. Liberals can't read. Carole Mosley Brahma Bull can't even remember her college major (if she ever went to college).
50 posted on 02/23/2003 4:31:58 PM PST by Porterville
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To: qam1; Jim Robinson
Am I reading the chart correctly, It looks like Freerepublic lost 3/4 of it's users in one year???

That graph shows the Traffic. John re-designed the Software so the whole page does not load when you access the article to decrease the traffic to the website and thus save on the BW $. That is why we had the decrease in traffic. You should look at he number of people who browse it each day. I know Jim Rob has a website to indicate the number of different posters logging on perday and number of people browsing this website.

51 posted on 02/23/2003 4:34:02 PM PST by Cool Guy (In God We Trust.)
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To: blackdog
With 60% of the nation excluded from Fox News as a cable choice, they still climbed to #1.

No, they had Directv and Dish Network. All of conservative rural America who didn't like the libmedia long before anyone else disliked them. So when Fox News came along, they lived off rural conservatives and it just grew from there. I don't know anyone who doesn't watch Fox. ABCNNBCBS is off the radar in rural America; they're not worth it even though they're "free".
52 posted on 02/23/2003 5:24:27 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Gang of Five
I don't see any reason to keep solon up and running.All i've read on solon was hate republican stuff.You gotta know when to hold them and know when to fold them.Fold them has my vote.
53 posted on 02/23/2003 5:30:31 PM PST by solo gringo
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To: solo gringo
Solon=salon
54 posted on 02/23/2003 5:31:45 PM PST by solo gringo
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To: Gang of Five
Naw, David, you've got us all wrong -- we want Slime to live.

For one thing, your poison-pen artists are so over the top that sane people recoil at first contact. We think of your columns as Helen Thomas for the Web-impaired. Why, I've converted three young bleeding-heart libs to Reagan conservatism in the last week, just by showing them your sob piece defending poor Sami Amin Al-Arian as an innocent victim of mean right wingers. Those kids'll never believe anything you publish again.

But our main motive for prolonging your demise is to leech the rich commies who keep pouring cash into your rathole. We'd really hate to see them spend it on something effective instead.

So party on, dudes.

Fondly,
I.T.

55 posted on 02/23/2003 5:53:11 PM PST by Interesting Times
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To: Semper Paratus
What's iron city beer? In Florida you can buy a soda called Iron Beer. It's like vanilla coke but ten times better. It was invented in Cuba, of all places. LOL. I'm stuck in Missouri where I have to suffer with coke and pepsi.
56 posted on 02/23/2003 6:02:37 PM PST by graycamel
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To: qam1
The vertical axis of that graph is the sites rank. Lower is better. Rank 1 gets more users than rank 2, and so on.
57 posted on 02/23/2003 6:05:24 PM PST by AM2000
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To: Gang of Five
"As Ishmael Reed observed..."

He plays for Dallas - no?

58 posted on 02/23/2003 6:06:52 PM PST by Libloather
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To: graycamel
What's iron city beer? In Florida...

You aren't traveling north often enough...

59 posted on 02/23/2003 6:14:02 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
"Of course every time I get ready to celebrate their demise, some liberal with more money than sense throws a huge wad of cash down the hole that is Salon at the 11th hour."

The usual liberal solution involves copious amounts of "other peoples' money".

Thus, I expect an initiative to merge Salon.com into PBS, thus becoming NPW -- National Public Webcasting.

60 posted on 02/23/2003 6:16:31 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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