Ignoble (Michael) Savage

The New York Sun ^ | 02/19/03 | IRA STOLL

[Clemenza]

Let's be fair: Ask any second or third generation Italian-American about how he feels about immigrants or migrant groups like Puerto Rican and 75% of the time you will get a negative answer.

[Claire Voyant]

Ira Stoll exposed himself as anti-Christian with the statement about Hitler's Pope!!! If Mr. Stoll would go back and read JUST what the Jews said about the Pope at the time, he would have the scales fall from his eyes!! The Pope saved hundreds of thousands of Jews from the gas chambers....according to the JEWS!!!

The writings by the New York Times as things were happening are very different from the anti-Christian New York Times is now.

[foreverfree]

When you come to America, you should be willing to become an American. Is that too much to ask?

Not for my paternal grandparents, who were from Ukraine, may they rest in peace.

foreverfree

[foreverfree]

He uses that track in his "opening theme medley" . First is the intro to Master of Puppets, then Motley Crue's If Looks Could Kill, and finally, Metallica's The Shortest Straw,

I prefer nonrock bumpers like the ones used on Marlin Maddoux's "Point of View" (webcasts 2:00p to 4:00p ET weekdays).

foreverfree

[driftless]

Anyone can be wrong on a particular subject or go over the bounds of propriety, but does Stoll go after leftist "pundits" like Red Molly Ivins or other commie creeps like he does here with Savage? This is an out and out hatchet job. I've only heard and read a little of Savage, but every time a leftist goes after a conservative, I know where my sympathies lie.

[Erasmus]

"One post's of iron
The other's of steel
If the first one don't get through
Then the next one weel."

[Leisler]

"The big difference today: we don't need more labor. We don't have blue collar jobs for these people. They are now a BURDEN. "

Actually we do need more labor. Ever been to any major old city? What happened to all the carpenters, masons, plumbers, all the supply yards and sundry buisnesses? Furthermore, look at new building everywhere, all designed and built for ever less skilled labor force. I could go on, poor and long time for road repairs. Go into any factory, and asked the factory floor manager about the mechanical skill level of males these days. Very poor. The same can be said and I know from personal experience that it is very difficult to get any, especially American, to show up for work, let alone apply oneself. Before, at and after the turn of the century we had piles of schools that trained mechanics in all fields, and thus gave human power to the industries of the last century. Now we just give prozac, counciling, tv and sports to the less academic types. Lastly it is not a burden. To the lefties who get government jobs and money, it is their buisness. Dependency is a growth industry. It is just the forced taxes on you to pay the lefties that is a burden. Defund the left, the real reason for less taxes and the real reason the left fights it so, because they'd have to get a real job, and we all know how skilled they would be. Not.

[Leisler]

No enemies on the right.

[Erasmus]

Here's a little more complete version: a verse and the complete refrain.

(That's all I have time for right now.)

Sixteen Times

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If you see me spammin' better step aside
A lot of threads didn't and a lot of threads died
One post's of iron and the other's of steel
If the first post don't get through then the next one weel

You load sixteen times and what do you get
A lot of red X's and a damn slow net
St Peter dont you call me 'cause I cain't get free
I owe my soul to my ISP

[Houmatt]

What is an American? What's American culture?

If you don't know the answer to that, you are in sad shape.

[Illbay]

*sigh*

No, I don't support "illegal immigration". I just don't support the knee-jerks among us who think the answer to everything is a machine gun.

In fact, I don't think I've ever heard Savage discuss illegal immigration because I haven't heard him that much--I don't enjoy his style at all.

In further point of fact, I really don't remember WHAT I've heard him discuss--other than himself. He seems very focused on himself, and his "importance" in the scheme of things. I seem to remember his discussing how "liberals hate me" and all the lengths that "liberals" go to to shut him up.

He really reminds me of quite a few FReepers here, more obsessed with how THEY fit into the scheme of things, than changing the scheme.

[Illbay]

I don't know of ANY conservative--even "shallow" conservative--pundits who aren't in favor of closing the immigration loophole.

That includes Rush, Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Michael Reagan, our local "personalities" here in Houston, and even Bill O'Reilly.

So Savage's stand on illegal immigration isn't "bold" nor is it "new" nor is it "cutting edge."

What bugs me is the stridency; it just trivializes any attempt at thoughtful commentary on these things.

Savage is the guy for those who don't really DO anything constructive, just sit around, drink beer, belch and gripe.

Talk is cheap.

[BUSHdude2000]

Since you've only listened to about 15 minutes of the show, I'd suggest two things: 1)listen some more and hear what the guy has to say 2)don't comment on things you know so little about.

[anniegetyourgun]

You're both right. He's as shrill and paranoid as any leftist. Waddanembarassment.

[johnny7]

He's no “brainiac” but he says what he feels. So do I.

Is he paranoid? I don't know... he's just a pissed-off guy.

Maybe you should get pissed-off too.

[anniegetyourgun]

He says what he thinks will get him ratings, and he's nothing more than a used up old vitamin salesman with NY attitude. Don't want it, don't need it, and don't care to listen. Wallowing in a pissed off state is hardly constructive.

[carton253]

Why President Bush hasn't really makes his judgement come into question when it comes to security for America. We all know Mexico is a problem country for us.

Please don't flame me... but listening to the President, he has mention border control many times... I don't think he has the political support for that where it counts. In the Senate.

Everytime the Justice Department tries to stiffen immigration, the Senate screams bloody murder.

So, where as the President realizes that borders are a problem... it's not an issue he can win right now. Those on the border realize its a problem, but their Senators and their state legislatives do not. That's where it has to change for any Federal law can have effect.

I'm not a Bushbot... so don't flame me... This is just my opinion.

[StriperSniper]

Italians are white people ( olive really ) Even the Irish

Ah...Irish (1/2 on Mom's side) now those are WHITE people! I'm glad that I didn't inherit that skin. A childhood friend of mine came fishing with me back in gradeschool and got burnt red in one hour from the reflection from the water. So for the next two days I went to the beach all day with his sister, who got her skin from the Italian side, while he recovered in the house.

[cyborg]

Well if you were from another country what would YOU say is culture? There's nothing wrong with asking, nothing wrong with critical thinking skills. That's all I was doing. Please don't get the impression that I'm trying to undermine America by asking that question. Not at all.