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Ignoble (Michael) Savage
The New York Sun ^ | 02/19/03 | IRA STOLL

Posted on 02/18/2003 9:47:27 PM PST by Pokey78

New York’s senior senator is “Upchuck” Schumer. New York’s jun-

ior senator is “Pillory” Clinton. The federal appellate judges for the West Coast are the “The Ninth Jerk-it Court of Schlemiels.” America is threatened by a “tidal wave of Turd World immigration.”

Welcome to the world of Michael Savage, the pen name and radio moniker of author and talk show host Michael A. Weiner. Mr. Savage, born in the Bronx to a Jewish, Democratic, immigrant family that later moved to Queens, worked his way through college as a busboy at a hotel in the Catskills before earning a Ph.D. in epidemiology and nutrition science from the University of California, Berkeley. His humor, such as it is or isn’t, clearly owes less to the tradition of Berkeley than to that of the Borscht Belt.

So what to make of the fact that Mr. Savage’s book, “The Savage Nation,” published by a company whose main business is selling Christian Bibles, is now at or near the top of virtually every national bestseller list, with more than 300,000 copies in circulation? His radio show reaches an audience of 5 million a week; in New York it’s carried by WABC radio, 770 on the AM dial.

Proof that you can never go broke by underestimating the intelligence of the American people? Or is Mr. Savage onto something beyond mere pre-adolescent humor?

Mr. Savage does have a knack for wry, insightful observations on topics ranging from antitrust law to the excesses of the American left. They are delightful for the way they are calculated to incite apoplexy among the holier-than-thou types.

On toy guns: “All of a sudden, the seventies came along. If you gave your kid a cap gun, you were considered psychotic. Instead, you’re supposed to give him a collection of flags from the United Nations.”

On the overmedication of children: “Daydreaming is a sign that a child needs Ritalin?”

On predatory pricing and price-fixing: “The antitrust laws in America make it illegal to charge more than the competition. It’s called price gouging. But you can’t charge less, either, because that would be undercutting your competitors. And if you charge the same, then you’re guilty of collusion. They’ve got you crated and ready for delivery no matter which way you turn.”

On the ACLU’s concern about public displays of religiosity: “You can have sex in public. You can masturbate in public. You can cross-dress in public. You can rub against a sheep in public. But you can’t pray in public.”

He observes that America has too much sex and too little religion, while the Middle East has too much religion and not enough sex. His proposed solution is to “drop millions of copies of Playboy over the nations of the Middle East along with millions of tiny, airline bottles of booze.” Instead of handing out condoms to American college students, university administrators should distribute copies of the U.S. Constitution and the Ten Commandments, he says.

About as often, however, Mr. Savage himself is guilty of the very excesses he decries in his liberal opponents. He complains that because of them, “America is well on her way from being the melting pot to becoming the chamber pot.” But to judge by his book, Mr. Savage himself is doing more than his share to coarsen the culture.

Sometimes he’s just plain wrong. He complains that when Senator Lieberman “used his religion as a weapon. … we heard not a murmur about church and state from the media elite.” In fact, after Mr. Lieberman started talking about God and religion during the campaign, the New York Times let loose with an editorial (“Mr. Lieberman’s Religious Words,” August 31, 2000), that asserted, “whenever religious matters are addressed, Mr. Lieberman should firmly and unequivocally reiterate his support for the separation of church and state, a bedrock principle of the American Constitution and political system.”

Other times Mr. Savage sounds just like the liberals he attacks, denouncing the “oligarchy” he claims is ruling America. “It’s a government of the rich, by the special-interest groups, and for the lobbyists,” Mr. Savage says.

And other times the book goes beyond wrong, into the territory of truly bad taste and even worse.

He refers to “Third Way Führer Blair” of England, a truly vile and unjustifiable title for a prime minister who has been a good friend to America in the war on Islamic terror.

He offers an unconvincing defense of Pius XII as “not Hitler’s pope” but “one of the great men of all time in that he saved upward of a reported eight-hundred thousand Jews.”

Particularly misguided are Mr. Savage’s views on immigration. He writes, “If America is going to survive, we must close our borders to those who mooch and to those from all terror-sponsoring countries.”

Well, no objection here to reforming government-sponsored welfare. But if Mr. Savage’s immigrant ancestors made it to New York City and settled in without any help from their relatives or private charities, they’d be in rare company, indeed. And without admitting Iraqis and Iranians to America, how is America supposed to help train a new generation of leaders for those nations who will be steeped in American traditions of freedom and democracy?

Most creepy is Mr. Savage’s justification of his views on immigration by invoking, however elliptically, racial and cultural differences. “When you alter the people, you alter the country. Does America want to be like Mexico, Central America, or China?” he asks. “Our most important and consequential inventions have come almost exclusively from white males,” Mr. Savage asserts at one point in the book.

Incredibly, Mr. Savage then openly wishes for an American immigration policy more like that advocated by a center-right German politician, Angela Merkel. Now, Ms. Merkel and her Christian Democratic party have their merits on foreign and economic policy, but their railings against the number of Turkish workers in Germany are not among them.

In a section of his book headlined “Biased Liberal News Undermines America,” Mr. Savage defines the cable news network MSNBC as “More Snotty Nonsense By Creeps.” Recently, amid the success of Mr. Savage’s book, MSNBC announced plans to have Mr. Savage host a weekly hour-long TV talk show. Given that MSNBC’s other token “conservative” is Pat Buchanan, it’s unclear whether the move is a calculated liberal plot to make conservatives look bad or a sincere effort to better the network’s ratings in Germany.

As evidence that “we must not allow immigrants to come here and impose their cultural trappings on us,” Mr. Savage raises the following scare: “The next time you’re in your backyard grilling hot dogs, don’t be surprised if your Korean neighbor is actually grilling his dog. That’s the way things are done in Korea.”

But Mr. Savage needn’t worry. The son of the newcomer Korean immigrant will likely prefer to eat at McDonald’s. And his grandson might become a multimillionaire by starting a fast food chain that would popularize Korean cuisine the way Taco Bell did Mexican food. Or the grandson might seek his fortune by writing a bestselling book that argues for keeping the borders closed to the next generation of immigrants.

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1 posted on 02/18/2003 9:47:27 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Savage rocks.
2 posted on 02/18/2003 9:53:30 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Pokey78
On the teaser for Savage's show here in Houston, they play a quote from him that goes something like: "I get up in the morning angry at the world, and it just goes downhill from there. It's like 'here's another day in hell!'"

I mean, what the h*ll is that? This guy actually INSPIRES people?

Pointless, directionless anger is of no worth to anyone.

Savage is a drip.

4 posted on 02/18/2003 10:01:35 PM PST by Illbay (Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy. -- 2 Nephi 25)
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To: SpaceBar
Heard Savage when I was up in the Bay area. His stridency seems artificial to me. As though he doesn't believe any of it and is only packaging what he thinks "sells". Just my opinion.
5 posted on 02/18/2003 10:01:37 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Pokey78
Well Ira, evidently his message is resonating somewhere. Radio 15 hours/week, NYT best-seller list, new TV show....
6 posted on 02/18/2003 10:03:26 PM PST by bayareablues
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To: cyborg
Savage is a Jew and he defends Israel and their right to self-defense.

He is anti-fascist, anti-socialist and pro-Bush.
7 posted on 02/18/2003 10:04:05 PM PST by Mark Felton
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To: Mark Felton
Yeah. Ya gotta give him time to grow on you. I'm hooked. When you hear him make furious statements like that, people not used to it are turned off, but his fans know exactly what he's talking about.

Also, the guy opens every show with my favorite Metallica song, "The Shortest Straw". That's what attracted me.

8 posted on 02/18/2003 10:07:36 PM PST by RandallFlagg (MustFReepMustFReepMustFReepMustFReepMustFReepMustFReep)
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To: Mark Felton
I know all of that, but the man does not know the definition of balance sometimes. I am not saying I don't like him, I just think he's egostical and a bit cliche' sometimes.

But the red diaper doper baby thing... he's right about that. I like that phrase.
9 posted on 02/18/2003 10:09:39 PM PST by cyborg
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To: cyborg; Illbay
1. He is NOT anti immigration. (pre 1965) He is against ILLEGAL immmigration.

2. He is NOT against foreigners; he is against foreigners who come here and do not wish to assimilate into our way of life. He is against the ones who try to remake their "turd world" in our country.

When you come to America, you should be willing to become an American. Is that too much to ask?

The fact is that there are millions of immigrants who come here with the sole purpose of obtaining medicaid, and other goodies. The Somalians of Lewiston, Maine (formerly Atlanta) Mexicans in the border states and in the big cities...I predict much of the projected 20 million (!!!) Chinese AIDS victims will find their way here...then what?

His message of Borders, Language and Culture is necessary for our country's survival. He is 100% correct.

10 posted on 02/18/2003 10:16:45 PM PST by Captainpaintball (i wus publik skool edjookaded and i turnedout good rite?)
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"Return-greetings" and an FYI for you too.
11 posted on 02/18/2003 10:18:20 PM PST by Captainpaintball (i wus publik skool edjookaded and i turnedout good rite?)
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To: All
I love listening to him. He was jack-booted off the air in Nashville and replaced with Hannity. Personally I think Savage is better on the radio than Hannity and Hannity does well on tv. I'm just waiting to see how Savage does on MSNBC.

I have to listen to Savage via the web and I wish Nasville would bring him back, I think Hannity is boring {on the radio that is}.
12 posted on 02/18/2003 10:22:15 PM PST by meanie monster (hooked on phonics werked for me.)
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To: Captainpaintball
I just started to listen to him the past few weeks and he reminds me of me. LOL
13 posted on 02/18/2003 10:22:28 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Captainpaintball
You've obviously never played this game with Illbay before, he supports illegal immigration, thus his hatred for Savage. Illbay shows up on every illegal immigration thread and calls those posting to those threads names and tells them to pay attention to other things. The best thing is to just skip over his posts and move to the next ones.
14 posted on 02/18/2003 10:22:34 PM PST by BUSHdude2000
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To: Captainpaintball
last night he slammed a anti-war guy but GOOD!
15 posted on 02/18/2003 10:23:29 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: cyborg
The Empire State Building was built during the Depression, your grandfather was lucky to find work at all, he must have been skilled.

Italians are white people ( olive really ) Even the Irish faced prejudice when they came to America 100 years ago. The big difference today: we don't need more labor. We don't have blue collar jobs for these people. They are now a BURDEN.

Koreans eat Dog. It's cheap meat and I'm sure they'd rather eat something else.

Savage is not anti-immigration, he is anti-illegal immigration. I'm sure your Grandfather came here honorably through proper INS, like my Grandparents did. Honorable law minded people are a great asset to any nation. People who get to this country illegally are criminals.
16 posted on 02/18/2003 10:23:57 PM PST by ffusco (Omni Gaul Delenda Est!)
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To: RandallFlagg
He's got to find a way to work Master of Puppets into the bumper rotation... ;)
17 posted on 02/18/2003 10:24:46 PM PST by Axenolith (<insert rapier witticism here>)
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To: BUSHdude2000; Captainpaintball
We need to close the borders and put massive troops on them. Why President Bush hasn't really makes his judgement come into question when it comes to security for America. We all know Mexico is a problem country for us.
18 posted on 02/18/2003 10:27:24 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Captainpaintball
What is an American? What's American culture? We should become one amorphous mass of jello because Mike Savage says so? Who is going to define what an American is and its culture? I was brought up in a traditional roman catholic immigrant household. My father was the son of poor Italians and my mother was an even poorer West Indian. Now what version of American culture should they have adopted? American culture could be a lot of cultures. I know that I love America and that I'm a patriot. I like Mike Savage most of the time but sometimes he is wrong you know. He believes that God wound up this machine called Earth and let it roll by itself. I think Savage is a bit off on that point.
19 posted on 02/18/2003 10:27:28 PM PST by cyborg
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