FReepers Against Voter Fraud - (Thread 2)

November 29, 2002 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

Since I am renewing this thread a little sooner than planned, I am leaving the original body of the thread in place and just making additions of references at this time. I think it is important to keep the statement of purpose and how we came to it at the forefront for now. Later on, as more people become aware of the thread and how it is set up, I will probably change it some and just give a link back to the original.

"The right of citizens to vote and have their vote count is the cornerstone of our democracy - the necessary precondition of government of the people, by the people and for the people. Enforcing the laws that guarantee voting rights and punish voting fraud is the duty of the Department of Justice. More than mere law enforcement, our responsibility to protect the access to and integrity of elections is the responsibility of upholding freedom itself.

America is a nation whose founding documents and most inspired words uphold the ideal of democratic self-government as a model for the world. The opening phrases of the Declaration of Independence declare that governmental power, if it is to be just, must be derived from the consent of the governed. The Constitution begins, purposefully and deliberately, with these three words: "We the people . . ."

America has failed too often to uphold the right of every citizen's vote, once cast, to be counted fairly and equally. Votes have been bought, voters intimidated and ballot boxes stuffed. The polling process has been disrupted or not completed. Voters have been duped into signing absentee ballots believing they were applications for public relief. And the residents of cemeteries have infamously shown up at the polls on election day.

Today, it is more important than ever before that we embrace the privilege that makes us unique among the peoples, nations and societies of human history. Our way of life is not a given, and our freedom is not an accident. Liberty is a rare gift for which millions have worked and suffered and sacrificed and died. It now falls to us to guard this gift from those who would destroy it. It falls to us, the free, to ensure that the cornerstone of our freedom - government of the people, by the people, and for the people - does not perish from the earth."

(Excerpted from remarks of Attorney General John Ashcroft at the Voting Integrity Symposim - October 8, 2002)

LINK TO THREAD 1

It has been quite a month and overall a victorious one for Republicans. The new year looms bright on the horizon with the promise of much needed changes taking place now that we have the majority in both the House and Senate and with the opportunity to finally have some conservative judges seated who will uphold the Constitution rather than legislating the socialist agenda of the Democrats from the bench and Tiny Tommy Daschle and his obstructionist thugs have been spanked soundly and sent to their rooms.

While we had several days of delirious gloating, drunk on the thrill of a hard earned and well-deserved victory, we know all too well that the election and the events leading up to it were not without incident and once again the deck was stacked against us as the Democrats tried every trick in the book in yet another shameless effort at stealing an election. With the blatant disregard for the law so characteristic of them when it obstructs their designs, they managed to get a liberal kangaroo court to uphold the replacement of Torricelli on the ballot in New Jersey beyond the legal deadline for doing so for no other reason than having determined that the scandal and corruption surrounding Torricelli rendered him incapable of winning. In Minnesota, prior to Paul Wellstone's ill-fated final flight, a plan was uncovered that had Democrats busing in students from out of state to take advantage of Minnesota's same day voter registration to vote illegally for Paul Wellstone. Even as this was being revealed, the campaign was underway to push a similar same day registration legislation in Colorado and California, thereby opening new avenues for illegal voting in those states. In South Dakota Democrat operatives (sorry, I cannot bring myself to use the word "Democratic") paid a field worker in excess of $12,000 over a period of 3 months to register native Americans on the reservations. It was later discovered that many registration cards that had been turned in by that worker had been written in the same handwriting. Among the newly registered was at least one who was known to be recently deceased. This and other irreglarities that were uncovered in South Dakota has led to 1 out of 10 ballots there being under investigation. Fish need water, plants need sunshine, an addict needs a fix and Democrats need power and these three cases are just samples of the extent to which they will go to get it.

The idea for this thread was born following the Arkansas Hog Wild FReepers' discovery of organized intimidation tactics on the part of Democrat and NAACP operatives in Jefferson County, Arkansas as relayed by FReeper, stop_the_rats, a Republican poll watcher who gained undesired and unfair national notoriety during early voting, and by a Republican campaign worker who "infiltrated" the Clinton led, pre-election campaign "event" there. The original story was posted as part of the after-FReep report with more detail added in a post-election update. The story generated such outrage that the thread turned into a FReeper brainstorm as we labored over how we might counteract the dishonest methods employed by the Democrats to hijack elections. The effort yielded an abundance of references and it was generally agreed that voter fraud is, or at least should be, of great concern to all of us. There is a strong probability that the South Dakota election was stolen and in Arkansas the fraud machine was spinning out of control and may well have cost Tim Hutchinson his senate seat as well, despite the shadow cast over him in the wake of his divorce and remarriage. Chances are that we'll never know. Thankfully neither of these races ended up being the tie-breaker that would determine the balance of power in the Senate, but either could have been and had that been the case, you can bet it would have gotten really ugly and may have produced an entirely different result.

Even as the Democrats are still licking their wounds and wondering what on Earth happened on November 5, they are already scrambling and scheming and conniving as to ways to prevent our intercepting their next power grab in 2004. This is revealed in their ongoing efforts to block any attempt to validate a voter's legitimacy whether it be by requiring a legal form of ID at the polls, the repeal of motor voter legislation, cracking down on absentee balloting and early voting, doing away with same day registration or by the presence of poll watchers at polling places. In every case they play the race card crying "black voter intimidation" when in reality they are simply thrashing against the net that could trap those guilty of voting illegally thereby inhibiting travel on their familiar roads of voter fraud. Thankfully, Republicans were more diligent this year and undoubtedly made an impact. More questionable ballots were challenged, more questions raised, more accountability called for and more light shed on irregularities. Until recently, prosecution for voter fraud has been virtually unheard of, but that is starting to change. There have been hundreds of stories published over the past several weeks relating to voting irregularities and credible allegations of fraud. Some have led to criminal charges being filed and still others have led to investigations which are ongoing. While it is unlikely that all election fraud can be stopped, it is much harder for it operate under a spotlight, which is exactly why we must each do our part to make sure that the spotlight stays on those "shadowy" recesses where voting machines mysteriously vanish, ballot boxes are obscured from view and the demons of electoral darkness run amok.

It was suggested that the opening remarks of Attorney General John Ashcroft be used as the basis of our mission statement for this thread. In these precarious times when we are at war and we are threatened daily by terrorism, our liberty has become more precious than ever and we must be vigilant to protect it not only from foreign invaders, but also from those who would erode it from within by compromising the integrity of our elections. In order to succeed in a battle it is essential to know the enemy and attack at his greatest point of vulnerability. Included here is a list of links, which while by no means exhaustive, can serve to enlighten the electorate. Many of these stories are from Arkansas only because this was the springboard for this thread and we look forward to other FReepers adding stories from their own areas as well as any based in personal experience. The original thread also produced a wealth of resources as we discussed who we should contact if we became aware of voting irregularities or suspected fraud. Again the list of links is far from comprehensive and additions are welcome. Of course the whole point of this exercise is to get more conservative voters involved in changing the laws to close loopholes which make it easy to cheat, to promote the enforcement of existing election laws and to take part in the election process at the local level all with the goal of intercepting future fraud campaigns. In other words our goal is to STOP THE RATS FROM HIJACKING THE ELECTION PROCESS AND TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!

Many thanks to all the wonderful FReepers who contributed their time, energy and ideas to produce the foundation for this thread:

For their contributions of information and links, thank you to kcvl; kayak; zeaal; demosthenes the elder; terriergal; Brad's Gramma; Budge; TheLion; backhoe; ForGod'sSake; Congressman Billybob; nicmarlo; Ragtime Cowgirl; to ST.LOUIE1 for his graphics and of course to Jim Robinson who has given us this great forum and sense of purpose. A very special thanks and salute goes out to stop_the_rats for her patriotism and tenacity in facing down the enemy within. She is a warrior of whom we should be proud. What a great screen name AND battle cry for the mission of this thread!

On thread 2, I also want to thank Saundra Duffy, Mia T and mlmr for their alerting us to a couple more hot spots and also providing some additional information. Thank you to diotima, ffrancone, and Nick Danger for their efforts to move this campaign beyond Free Republic and disseminate information for public consumption. Updates on this effort will be posted regularly as well. Geist Krieger, has provided a very interesting and in depth analysis of methods of voting and their impact on our elections. If anybody has a means of storing a document for public access, please let me know and I will FReepmail it to you so that a link can be posted. It is quite long.

AWARENESS

KNOW THY ENEMY! If you're like me, you once had a naive trust in the integrity of our elections in America. All that changed for me though, with the election debacle of 2000 when it became readily apparent that Al Gore was trying to steal the presidency and his operatives were so desperate that they were doing it right in the face of the American people. I was absolutely furious but I believed that now that people could see the Clinton/Gore political machination for the shameless assault on America that it was, they would wake up and demand accountability from those responsible. I really wasn't prepared for seeing how many people would continue to perpetrate the lies the Democrats told even in the face of that fiasco and how many would continue to buy into them. Even after that I believed that surely, now that it was out in the open, something would be done to fix it before the next election. I also was not prepared to discover the extent to which voter fraud had woven its way into our political system like a burrowing parasite with expanding tentacles entwining themselves around the arteries of freedom. The sense of betrayal I have felt has been disheartening, to say the least, but it gave rise to the outrage that made me determined to try to do something about it. If you read even a few of these links, it will change forever the way you look at future elections and will hopefully encourage you to be part of the solution.

If any of these links become outdated many of these articles are posted in their entirity on the original FReep thread. If you let me know via FReepmail, I will make editorial adjustments accordingly before renewing the thread.

GENERAL ARTICLES ON VOTER FRAUD -

The Greatest Cover-up Of All: Vote Fraud In America

ELECTION FRAUD 2002 (Lots of links)

How Some Elections Are Stolen! (Lots of Links)

Controlling Fraud, Corruption and Unfair Practices

Voter Reform: Why Are Democrats Opposed To A Photo ID to Vote?

Should Georgia Adopt Early Voting? (Relates to Problems Associated with Early Voting)

An election scam

The Democrats Lost Ugly

Ghost Precincts

Vote Fraud: Will YOUR Vote Be Stolen This November?

Should We Take Voter Fraud as Seriously as Business Fraud?

Stopping Voter Fraud Made a BIG Difference!

Orgins of Modern Democrat FRAUD

Damn Dirty Democrats

Fraud a Part of Demos' Senate Strategy?

CASTING BALLOTS: GOP to have hundreds of spotters at polling sites

Bond Celebrates President's Signing of Anti-Vote Fraud Bill

Need Vote Fraud articles, stories, and evidence? Here's a source...

It's Voter Fraud Season Again!

The Vote Fraud Archives

The Nagging Problem of Election Fraud

More Is Better?

Democrats want to drop vote fraud plan, Bond says (Election "Reform")

Double Votes in 2000 Election

GOP Uncovers Democrat Vote Fraud

Bond's Debates Schumer Amendment that Undermines His Election Reform Bill

Too Easy to Steal: Why don't liberals want to stop voter fraud?

The Dangers of Voting outside the Booth

Testimony of Dr. Larry J. Sabato, Director University of Virgina Center for Governmental Studies Before The Committee on Rules and Administration United States Senate

The Motor Voter Act and Voter Fraud

Congress to establish voter-fraud task force: Nationwide investigation will 'put people in jail

How Democrats Steal Elections

Can we trust the vote count anywhere? In any race? In any election?

The Greenwood Position (Peggy Noonan)

Stalin-Like Contests

Voter Fraud Again!

Knock and Drag: Ryan Lizza reveals how Dems. got out the black vote

Voter Fraud! It Doesn’t Get Any More Blatant Than This !

American Apartheid

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WE KNOW THESE STATES HAVE PROBLEMS -

ALABAMA -

Vote Fraud Alleged in Alabama

Voter Fraud in Alabama Is a Proven Fact

Alabama Primary Challenge Goes Down in Flames

ARKANSAS -

Grand jury requested to delve into elections (Excerpt)

Arkansan pleads guilty in vote fraud

Looking Back On Tuesday's Election Problems

Arkansas - Democratic Party seeking injuction to keep polls open until 10:00 p.m. tonight

GOP to ask for probe of Phillips Co. voting

Scandal: Postal Exec Caught Using USPS Budget to Unseat GOP Senator

1,000 Republican Students Denied Right to Vote

Arkansas GOP charges vote fraud

FRAUD in Arkansas!!! Voters Illegally Casting Ballots 2 Weeks Early in Organized Effort by Dems

Voter Fraud in Arkansas

CALIFORNIA -

Elections Officials Hand Over Voter Info

State Assembly Race Still Too Close to Call and What's Up With Those MILITARY ballots?

Provisional ballots are questioned

Fresno judge halts counting of provisional ballots in close assembly race

United States Attorney Northern District of California

California Govervor's Race: A Democratic Party Art Form - Inventing Voters

Election fraud in Arvin, Ca -all who committed voter fraud got away with it in 2000 election"

CONNETICUT -

DUPLICATE VOTERS

FLORIDA -

Voters Accused of Double-Voting Attempt

Florida Saga Continues- Broward County "Finds" 104,000 Votes, Oliphant, "Only A Small Problem"

Voter fraud that's legal

Fears of Massive Illegal Ballots in Fla. - Again!

State attorney probes ballots

McBride Campaigns In Black Church -- IRS Violation?

165 Broward precincts lacked GOP staff, review finds

18 new voting machines go missing in Broward

Could It Be That Florida Democrats Are Too Stupid To Vote?

Black Republicans Suffered Worst in Florida Vote Count

Non-Voted Ballots and Discrimination in Florida

2,000 Floridians voted illegally Nov. 7

The Dimples Prove Fraud

"Explicit statistical evidence of massive ballot tampering in Palm Beach, Fl"

Democrats: Party Without a Conscience

Broward County Can't Count!!!

Voting Irregularities in Duval County

Downside Legacy on THE RECOUNT to 12/2/00 (More links to articles on 2000 election)

Felon For Gore: 2,000 Felons Voted for Gore in Florida alone

Exclusive: Recount Observers Tell NewsMax.com of Democrat Fraud

Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart: eye-witness account of Miami-Dade ballot fraud

Unstatesmanlike Conduct

How Gore and Chris Sautter Are Stealing Our Election and Our Country

DEMOCRAT MEMO ON HOW TO DISQUALIFY MILITARY VOTES

Palm Beach County "massive voter fraud is now evident"

Absentee Ballot Fraud among Democrats in Florida an Old Story

Missing Voting Mechanism Recovered

Evidence shows HOW the Palm Beach Democrats voided 15,000 Bush ballots, 3,400 Buchanan Ballots

Open Letter To Mark Levin - Statistical Proof Of Election Fraud

Al Gore's Class-Action : Trial lawyers try to litigate their man into the White House

INDIANA -

The law can be such a hassle sometimes: Or another example of how Rats steal elections

Absentee ballot requests seized; probe launched

KANSAS -

Democrats Urge Kansans to Vote Illegally

KENTUCKY -

Investigators monitor 17 counties across state

LOUISIANA -

Landrieu Redux ~ WSJ. '97

Two convicted of voter fraud get probation

They're Stealing the Election

Citizens For A Better America

MAINE -

RATS Stealing State Elections In Maine -- A Measured and Thoughtful Response

Hall Named Provisional Winner in Dist. 16 -- Fossel Withdraws Appeal -- New Strategy Revealed

Overt Disenfrancisement Condemned

DEMOCRATS REFUSE TO COUNT ALL THE VOTES

MARYLAND -

Maryland: 10,000 Republican Absentee Ballot ApplicationsTossed Out

Maryland Gov. Race: Polls Good for Ehrlich, Dem. Party Disenfranchises GOP Absentee Voters

MASSACHUSETTS -

Howie Carr - Photos and Video of RAT Voter Fraud in Massachusetts!

More Dem Fraud

Romney (R) Complains Of Voter Irregularities In Boston

MICHIGAN -

Detroit's voter rolls in question (too many registered)

MINNESOTA -

Scores use strip club as voter registration address

VOTE 2002: Taxpayers League says group backs voter fraud

MISSOURI -

Voter Fraud: Can It Be Stopped?

Democratic officials challenge rule on provisional voting (Missouri)

Most (Almost All) of the 3,000 registration cards turned in for next month's primary were fraudulent

St. Louis city voting extension raises questions

NEW HAMPSHIRE -

Don't use students to abuse elections

NEW YORK -

Hillary: Why I Oppose Stopping Election Fraud

2-BALLOT VOTERS FACE DOUBLE TROUBLE

NORTH CAROLINA -

Martin County elections board to discuss alleged vote buying

OKLAHOMA -

More allegations of vote fraud surface

Investigators Look Into Another Vote Fraud Case

Arrests made in voter fraud case (Oklahoma Dems Runoff)

PENNSYLVANIA -

Penn Researchers Document Large-Scale Voter Registration Problem

RHODE ISLAND -

Citizens Group Alleges Elections Fraud Group Says Non-Citizens, Immigrants Can Vote

SOUTH DAKOTA -

The Oglala Sioux's Senator

Let’s Hear It for Fraud – And REAL Soon

The Oglala Sioux's Democrat Vote Fraud Scheme Has A Familiar Ring

VOTER FRAUD ARREST TO BE MADE - SD

South Dakota Suspicions

Dead Men Voting

Arrest Expected in Voter Fraud Investigation

The New Democrat Plantation: A FR Roundup of Vote Fraud In South Dakota (Multiple Links)

Absentee forms found burned

Vote Fraud South Dakota Style - by the numbers

Dem Ethics? South Dakota Dems don’t acknowledge the importance of their voter-fraud problem

Daschle accuses Republicans of voter harassment

South Dakota Dem Hit with Vote Fraud Indictment

15 false absentee ballot applications found(in SD)and more may be coming

TEXAS -

A Poll Watchers Tale - Vote Fraud in Houston, Texas

Official raises concerns of voter fraud in Hidalgo County (Heart of DemocratCounrty in Texas).

WASHINGTON D.C. -

D.C. MAYOR WILLIAMS CANNOT BE ON THE BALLOT! (MORE DEMOCRAT VOTER FRAUD!)

WISCONSIN -

Democratic Vote Fraud in Wisconsin Gov. Race

ACCESS

In order to effect changes it is important to have channels through which we can make our voice heard. One reason the Democrats get away with as much as they do is because they make a lot of noise. It is time WE make some noise of our own. There are a number of individuals, organizations and media sources who support our Constitution and seek to protect the integrity of our elections. Here are a few of them. Rather than clutter the body of this thread with a long list of email addresses, I will post the websites. Most of these have contacts and email addresses on them. While I have not listed any here, it is important to keep in mind that just because a source is on the opposing side doesn't mean that they can't still be used to our advantage. Consider this parable of Jesus.

"In a certain city there was a judge who did not fear God and did not respect man. "There was a widow in that city, and she kept coming to him, saying, 'Give me legal protection from my opponent.' "For a while he was unwilling; but afterward he said to himself, 'Even though I do not fear God nor respect man, yet because this widow bothers me, I will give her legal protection, otherwise by continually coming she will wear me out.'" (Luke 18: 2-5)

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INDIVIDUALS, ORGANIZATIONS AND MEDIA SOURCES

Department of Justice Voting Rights Home Page

FBI

American Conservative Union

Eagle Forum

Eagle Forum of Arkansas

The Heritage Foundation

ACLJ

Fox News

Drudge Report

Rush Limbaugh

Hugh Hewitt

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ELECTION LAW

Election laws and practices vary widely from state to state, and therein lies part of the problem. In order to address the issues we need first to know what the law, as it currently exists is and work within it and where applicable work to see that it is enforced. Second, you will come to discover that many of the opportunities for fraud are born from flaws in the laws themselves, in which case we need to work on getting those laws changed. Below is a very brief list of some election laws and guidelines which we have referenced recently. I am sure this section will grow considerably as others add their contributions.

ELECTION LAWS, RULES, GUIDELINES

Arkansas Election Code

Arkansas Election Faqs

State Requirements For Voter ID

Texas Pollwatcher's Guide

Vote Fraud and Election Issues (Lots of Links)

Limitations On Lawyers

Reporting Unlicensed Lawyers

2002 Florida Statutes

Florida Voter Fraud Issues

Proposition 52 Dealing With Voter Fraud in California

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GENERAL REFERENCE

List of U.S. Counties

National Association of Counties

Online Newspapers

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ACTION

What can FReepers do? For starters we can identify states that will have key races in the 2004 election. Is your state one of them? Are there known problem precincts in YOUR county? Let's start getting important information about the race, the candidates, the electoral history of the state, the laws in that state and how open they may leave the process to tampering, history of voter fraud in the state, conservative media outlets there, and whatever else you can think of that might be relevant to equip the electorate to head off problems in advance.

Democrats LIE! Their biggest and most effective lie is that Republicans are deliberately trying to prevent blacks and/or other minorities from voting. In effect, they're calling us racists. The truth is that it is them who seem to consider blacks and other minorities so inferior and ignorant and lacking in initiative that they are incapable of voting without the benefit of THEIR (the Democrats') "guidance" and "protection". They squeal "intimidation" at every opportunity and intimidation certainly comes into play. The real question is "who is doing the intimidating?" Their greatest fear is that blacks will recognize how badly they've been duped and insulted by these people and leave the party in droves. That can work in our favor if we work with it. Black conservatives have perhaps the greatest responsibility for telling other black voters the truth about the Democrat party, although it is certainly something we should all work on. Independent thought is the enemy of the Democrats.

Talk about election fraud. Bring it up whenever an opportunity presents itself. Keep a notebook at all times and if someone tells you anything pointing to vote fraud, get more details. Write down such things as county, precinct, candidates in the race, name of the witness and whatever else you can think of. If it seems credible, report it to someone, then follow it up and find out what, if anything, was done with the information.

Have your elected officials, city attorneys, election officers and judges in your email address book, your regular address book and on speed dial. When you become aware of a credible allegation of voter fraud, get busy and push for them to prosecute offenders very publicly and to the FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW! If a few people are seen to be doing time for their electoral indiscretions, observers may be less willing to follow suit.

Rally others and spend election day in parking areas of and near problem polling places at ready with notebook and camera. A favorite technique of Democrats is to load up buses full of paid voters and haul them from precinct to precinct to cast multiple votes. Getting license numbers of these buses and observing them closely could yield enough evidence to prove fraud. Note or photograph anything "out of the ordinary".

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." (Josef Stalin)

Take part in the process. Here is a list of suggestions that stop_the_rats posted on another thread:

1. Plan to take election day off in 2004.
2. Be a poll worker. You get paid for this.
3. Be a poll watcher. Call your local Republican headquarters or the campaign office of one of your Republican candidates and volunteer to be a poll watcher.
4. Count absentee ballots. You get paid for this also.
5. Be a poll closer. It's a long day. Some people who can't poll watch because of work, could agree to come after work for 2 hours and close the polls to give poll watchers a break. Get final counts and make sure no "late" voters turn up.
6. Take lunches to poll workers and poll watchers.
7. Man the headquarters so if problems arise, poll workers or watchers have a place to call for help. Have a list of numbers: local election officals, state officals.
8. Find a person who will agree to "be in charge"of all the rules poll watchers and poll workers need to follow. Each state has rules and in some cases, state election representatives will come to your city and give a presentation.
9. Encourage others to get involved.
10. Smile; we have them worried!

Some might want to take it a step furthur, if that is an option in your area, and be an election judge. Or you may have specific talents and training that you could donate to the cause, such as legal assistance and advice.

Finally; ask questions. FReepers have an uncanny ability to ask the right questions in most any situation AND to find answers and we have an inexhaustable resource right here on Free Republic. Here are just a few questions to start with.

"If fraud is suspected, how do we find out who is behind it?"

"How do we work to get cooperation between poll watchers and workers and clarify expectations on all sides BEFORE an election?"

"How can you prove fraud? What is legal in a given state (photos, tape recording, witness statements, compiling a list of names, video taping) and how can these techniques be implemented in a non-obtrusive way?"

How limiting is jurisdiction on working in some capacity at the polls? This may vary from state to state. For example, during the training for counting absentee ballots in Pulaski County, Arkansas, I was told that to be a poll worker or to count ballots, you had to be a resident of the county in which you served, but that a poll watcher could be from anywhere as long as he or she was authorized by the candidate or party. This could be very useful to pursue. In the 2002 election, in spite of all the Rat hype, there was still a shortage of Republican poll watchers in a number of "problem" locations. There were also quite a few FReepers who expressed a desire to do something, but there were no particular problems in their own areas. If we can, in fact, be poll watchers anywhere, that may have great potential for wider coverage of historically fraud prone precincts in future elections.

And last, but certainly not least, pray!

"If My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land." (2 Chronicles 7:14)

"Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord" (Psalm 33:12a)

FReepers; your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to get out there and STOP THE RATS!

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As information has been posted, I have been keeping track of counties that have a history of voting "irregularities" and/or blatant fraud or in which there is legal action currently pending. From that information I have generated a county "watch list". This is not only to alert those seeking to combat the voter fraud travesty, but also to put those responsible for it on notice that the game is up and the heat is on. This list will no doubt grow as more cases come to light, and by all means, if you know of such concerns in your local areas, alert this thread and have the offending county "hot listed". It is the contributions of FReepers that will make this effort work!

ALERT!

COUNTIES ON THE WATCH LIST!

ALABAMA -

Greene County
Hale County

ARKANSAS -

Clark County
Jefferson County
Phillips County
Pulaski County

CALIFORNIA-

Fresno County
Kern County

Conneticut -

New Haven County

FLORIDA -

Broward County
Duvall County
Lake County
Miami-Dade County
Orange County
Osceola County
Palm Beach County
Seminole County
Volusia County

INDIANA -

Marion County

LOUISIANA-

East Baton Rouge Parish
Orleans Parish

MAINE -

Cumberland County
Lincoln County

MARYLAND -

Baltimore County
Montgomery County
Prince George's County

MASSACHUSETTS -

Suffolk County

MICHIGAN -

Wayne County

MINNESOTA -

Dakota County

MISSOURI -

St. Louis - city

NEW HAMPSHIRE -

Stafford County

NORTH CAROLINA -

Martin County

OKLAHOMA -

Haskell County

SOUTH DAKOTA -

Bennett County
Codington County
Dewey County
Minnehaha County
Pennington County
Shannon County
Ziebach County

TEXAS -

Harris County
Hidalgo County

WISCONSIN -

Kenosha County
Milwaukee County
Washington County
Waukesha County

The following states have been pinged, which means if your state's flag isn't flying, then FReepers in your state have not yet been alerted! The flags are posted in the order the states were pinged. It would be nice to have a representative FReeper from each state, particularly those states that are "fraud zones". If anyone would be willing to represent your state on this thread on a regular basis, please let me know and I will begin a list of FReeper contacts for each state.

[sweetliberty]

Which reminds me that I am now located in yet another RAT infested county. If I start now, just MAYBE I will get my new voter registration card in time for the 2004 election.

[TheLion]

Vermont:

Ever wonder why there haven't been good systems developed to purge voter rolls?....well, why mess up a good cheating system!

Checklist purge will help towns resolve problems
January 4, 2003

SETH HARKNESS Herald Staff

Killington’s town clerk has received complaints that a certain town official no longer lives in town.

In Castleton, where students come and go every year, the town clerk said it is difficult to know which people on the voting list are still residents.

These matters, and others like them, should be resolved this year through a state-mandated review, or purge, of the voting rolls. The state requires city and town officials to do such a review every odd-numbered year.

The process for removing people from the checklist who have moved without notifying the town is costly and convoluted, according to several town clerks.

State law requires the clerks to send letters to anyone whose residency status cannot be determined. The letter includes a card, which voters must return by the voter registration deadline if they want to remain on the rolls.

By federal law, however, town officials cannot remove a voter from the checklists unless they have missed two general elections.

This delay contributes to people being on the rolls who shouldn’t be.

“I’d say off the top of my head there are probably 100 people who don’t belong there,” said Wallingford Town Clerk Joyce Barbieri.

Last time she purged the town’s checklist in 2001, Barbieri said, she removed 25 to 50 names from a list of 1,550 voters.

When residency is disputed, the matter goes to a town’s board of civil authority — a group that includes select board members, town clerks and justices of the peace — that makes residency decisions.

Killington Town Clerk Lucretia Wonsor said it will probably fall to that town’s Board of Civil Authority to settle questions that have arisen over Will Ehmann, a Killington auditor and justice of the peace.

Many people say Ehmann no longer lives in Killington. He is listed under two numbers in the telephone book, one in Killington and the other in Chittenden.

“I really don’t know whether or not he lives in town,” Wonsor said.

Ehmann did not return messages left at his Chittenden number. Someone who answered at the Killington number said the house had been rented and Ehmann lived elsewhere.

Both auditor and justice of the peace are positions that can only be held by a town resident, according to Wonsor.

State law defines residency as follows: “For the purpose of voting, ‘resident’ is defined as a person who is domiciled in the town as evidenced by an intent to maintain a principal dwelling place in the town indefinitely …”

Most town clerks described the purging process as a bit of an ordeal. Castleton Town Clerk Ellen LaFleche said the transient student population made the purge challenging for her.

“Because Castleton is a college town, there are a lot of students who register here and then move without telling us,” she said. “It’s quite a lot of work.”

In the last purge, LaFleche took 242 names off a voting list that now stands at 2,441.

Although each town must check its voting rolls, at the moment the state has no means to double-check one list against another, according to Secretary of State Deborah Markowitz. This creates the possibility that people may register and vote in more than one place.

“When people ask about voter fraud, the answer is ‘I don’t know, I can’t tell,’” she said. “I doubt people go voting from town to town, but I don’t know.”

A new federal law that arose out of the problems in the 2000 Florida presidential election will require a statewide list to prevent such voter fraud before the next general election in 2004, she said.

Voting in two places is a crime punishable by prison and a $1,000 fine, according to Markowitz. However, holding an office in one town and living elsewhere is not a crime, she said.


http://rutlandherald.nybor.com/News/Story/58573.html

[TheLion]

Yep, they are likely to lose it!

[sweetliberty]

They did in Pulaski County and I had changed my registration in plenty of time. I only just got my registration card back from there a couple of weeks ago! If I was a RAT, I would likely have gotten it the same day on the spot.

[BillyBoy]

Why isn't CROOK County, Illinois on the list?! County Clerk David Orr (RAT) conviently threw out about 20,000 suburban votes a while back, resulting in Chicago 'RATs winning about 80% of the vote.

[sweetliberty]

Thanks for the info. Do you have a link to anything local about it? Whenever the thread is updated I will be happy to include it.

[Budge]

The lawyer quotes Hill as saying the ballots needed to disappear and said his client discovered later in the day that they were no longer in the mailroom.

Ah ha! A little prestidigitation on the part of the RATS?

[Budge]

Something to consider.

Purge the list of registered voters every year. Then each voter would have to re-register each year.

Of course, I can already hear the RATS complaining about how that would discriminate against the poor and minorities.

But it might just keep some of the dead and those who have moved from voting.

[TheLion]

"prestidigitation"....had to look that one up!.... the Rats are very good at that for sure!

[sweetliberty]

Thought you might find this amusing. The Rats are "looking into" computer voter fraud. No harm in letting them do some of our work for us. I'm afraid the real story isn't the one they're hoping to find though.

AMERICA VIOLATED: ENCYCLOPEDIA OF COMPUTER FRAUD

[Budge]

Well, well, well. Isn't that instering. It follows exactly what stop_the_rats and the rest of us have been saying all along.

The only problem is, they wouldn't cooperate with us to eliminate vote fraud if it meant their lives.

But I wish they would. (I know, "Wish in one hand...")

[TheLion]

This is typical of many posts I have read, where the Rats think we rig the system. Most of them don't have a clue about much of anything, let alone, voter fraud!

[TheLion]

Iowa:

Now here is some common sense by a Republican....obviously opposed by the Rats because it would limit the fraud possibilities!

Bill would force absentee voters to deliver own ballots

UPDATED: 1/29/03 2:46 PM
ASSOCIATED PRESS

DES MOINES - Iowa lawmakers are taking a look at absentee voters.

http://www.wqad.com/Global/story.asp?S=1104327

[TheLion]

South Dakota:

Posted on Mon, Jan. 27, 2003

System would let voters register online
Associated Press

PIERRE, S.D. - A plan that would allow South Dakotans to register to vote by using the Internet made it to the halfway mark on Monday in the state Legislature.

The House passed HB1010 on a 49-20 vote. If the measure is also passed by the state Senate and signed by the governor, voters could register online by using what's called a digitized signature, or an electronic copy of signatures used on driver's licenses.

Supporters said the bill is based on an Internet voter-registration system that works well in Arizona.

Opponents worried that such a law could lead to fraudulent registrations, but supporters said that has not been a problem in Arizona.

"This change will take our voter registration system into the 21st century," said Rep. Casey Murschel, R-Sioux Falls.

But Rep. Ted Klaudt, R-Walker, said allowing voters to register on the Internet instead of in person is a recipe for fraud. People should be willing to register at government offices if they want to vote, he said.

"If you don't have that much initiative, maybe you shouldn't really even be voting in the first place ... not to say that I don't want anybody to vote," he said.

Noting there were many reports of voter-registration fraud before the last general election, Klaudt said the state should not be in a hurry to embrace voter registration over the Internet.

Others, however, said none of those reports of voter fraud were found to be true.

Rep. Tom Van Norman, D-Eagle Butte, said both the state attorney general and secretary of state verified that no voter fraud took place. Unfortunately, several people were questioned and felt intimidated during the probe, he said.

If Internet registration will help avoid those situations in the future, it should be allowed, Van Norman said.

Everyone should vote, and the bill would make it easier for people to do that, said Rep. Jim Peterson, D-Revillo. The legislation was introduced on behalf of new Secretary of State Chris Nelson, Peterson added.

The legislation would allow people to register to vote by entering driver's license numbers or non-driver identification card numbers into online forms. A computer would then fill in the signature using a digital copy of the voter's signature, which the state has on file in its database of driver's license information.

The computer system would send the registration information to county auditors, who then would use the information to complete the registration process.

http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aberdeennews/news/5044364.htm

[TheLion]

Kentucky: Follow-up article to my post #440

Posted on Thu, Jan. 30, 2003

UK student leader hires lawyer
ATTORNEY A PARTNER WITH THE HEAD OF BOARD OF TRUSTEES
HERALD-LEADER STAFF REPORT

Tim G. Robinson, the University of Kentucky student president who was indicted for vote fraud, has hired the law partner of the chairman of the UK Board of Trustees to represent him.

Kent Wicker, a former assistant U.S. Attorney in Louisville, works with chairman Steve Reed in the newly created Louisville firm of Reed, Wicker.

Wicker said it was too early to discuss the facts of the case, but that Robinson was "stunned" to learn of the indictment.

"He doesn't believe he did anything wrong, and when the facts come out, everyone else will know that as well," Wicker said. "He's got a lot going for him, and I'm hoping this won't disrupt the promise he has and the good he can do for his community."

Robinson was indicted Tuesday for willfully failing to return about 750 voter registration cards that were filled out by UK students. They were part of a registration drive initiated by Robinson in 2001 to oust city council members who supported a plan to curb student partying.

Robinson, a Martin County native, serves on the Board of Trustees with Reed, but Wicker said there was no conflict of interest because he was taking the case for free and because Reed would recuse himself if Robinson's matter came up before the board.

Robinson will be arraigned on Feb. 7 in Fayette County.

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/heraldleader/news/local/5062825.htm

[TheLion]

Nevada:

If vote fraud is proven, this election needs to be overturned and the Republican given the seat!


Grand Jury Will Hear Allegations Of Voter Fraud In Nevada

A grand jury will be digging deeper into allegations of voter fraud in District 37. Some people say dozens of absentee ballots were tampered with, which might have cost one candidate the election. News 3's Ben Correa reports the district attorneys office will use the grand jury as an investigative tool. District Attorney David Roger says it's important to protect the voting process in southern Nevada.

He says this is the first time his office has ever attempted to indict anyone for voter fraud. "When somebody is delt a bad hand and people are dealing from the bottom of the deck, we have to take a closer look at it." District Attorney David Roger wants to make sure there's no stone unturned in the Assembly District 37 race...a race Republican Francis Allen lost to Democrat Marcus Conklin by a little more than 130 votes.

Allegations of voter fraud continue. The reason? Roger is taking the case to the grand jury hoping to find answers. "We are calling witnesses who perhaps may not speak to us, but the grand jury doesn't take no for an answer. You have to answer questions truthfully. I don't think there are ramifications."

Gary Horrocks is the man in the center of all this controversy. Some residents living in District 37 say Horrocks had people fill out hundreds of absentee ballots using vacant homes or false addresses on the voter registration form at his bar. Horrocks spoke to News 3 back in November and said claims that he fixed the race are ridiculous. He said people at this tavern talk politics and all he does is help them make informed decisions on election day.

"If I was trying to commit any type of voter fraud, everyone would of voted. That was not what it was. People said they would move into the district. If I found they moved out, I told them not to vote." Roger says if there is enough evidence, his office will prosecute those who are responsible. We contacted Horrocks's attorney. He didn't want to comment about the grand jury meeting tomorrow.

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=1105038&nav=15MVDeL2

[TheLion]

Montana:

Democrats don't want to give up thier vote scam machionery!


Committee considers Florida-style election reforms

HELENA (AP) -- Voters who like to use absentee ballots shouldn't be penalized for the perceived misdeeds of political parties, the Montana Democratic Party chief told lawmakers Wednesday.

The House State Administration Committee is looking at federal election mandates, drafted in the wake of the 2000 Florida election problems. One provision added to the package would ban third parties from handling absentee ballot requests.

"If there is a fraud problem, prosecute the fraud problem," said Brad Martin, executive director for the state Democrats.

He said special interest groups, civic groups, political parties or even friends should still be allowed to deliver absentee ballot requests to election officials.

"This is a new regulation that I don't think the constituents of either party will support," said Martin.

But others said political parties were taking advantage of the process to bolster their ranks.

"It's not creating obstructions, all it is saying is if you want an absentee ballot ... you'll have to put it in the mail yourself," said Cindy Younkin, a Bozeman Republican sponsoring House Bill 190, one of two election reform bills before the House State Administration Committee.

Another provision would reduce the advance mailing of absentee ballots from 45 days to 30 days. Martin said it is unrealistic to expect an absentee ballot to be mailed to overseas military people just 30 days before an election and expect them to have time to return the ballot.

Proponents said giving people an absentee ballot 45 days before an election allowed them to vote before issues had been fully debated. Shortening the timeframe would result in more knowledgeable votes, they said.

Other election reforms would place a computerized voting terminal in every polling place, allowing disabled people to vote without assistance. The measures would also let people vote even if their eligibility is in question, subject to later verification.

The revamped voting system would establish a statewide voter registration system to keep track of voters by using driver's license, Social Security or assigned voting numbers.

http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?tl=1&display=rednews/2003/01/30/build/local/70-xgr-electionreform.inc

[nicmarlo]

I found this statement interesting: "He says this is the first time his office has ever attempted to indict anyone for voter fraud." Why? Surely voter fraud has been occurring left and right all over the country for decades. Why is it only now they are pursuing and indictment?

[Budge]

But Rep. Ted Klaudt, R-Walker, said allowing voters to register on the Internet instead of in person is a recipe for fraud. People should be willing to register at government offices if they want to vote, he said.

"If you don't have that much initiative, maybe you shouldn't really even be voting in the first place ...

Good for Klaudt. The man understands.

Actually, so do the RATS. They don't want anything to hamper their cheating. In fact, they want to broaden it.

[Budge]

"It's not creating obstructions, all it is saying is if you want an absentee ballot ... you'll have to put it in the mail yourself," said Cindy Younkin, a Bozeman Republican sponsoring House Bill 190,...

Someone explain to me just how that would be "discriminatory!"

The measures would also let people vote even if their eligibility is in question, subject to later verification.

This is so much BS, and you see it often in the RATS arguments.

"Later verification" is rarely performed, and if it is, the questionable votes are even more rarely thrown out. IF they are, it is far too late to affect the outcome.