Posted on 10/11/2002 1:40:39 PM PDT by LSUfan
I'm watching this sniper coverage on the cable networks and everyone is so sure that this is a nut of some sort: a gun nut, a military nut, a serial killer, etc.
But we have evidence to indicate that there is more than one. Two nuts? The President of the Marine Scout Sniper Assoc was just on MSNBC and said that he is sure that the shooter isn't alone because he doubts that anyone could stalk, lay-up, take the shot, egress and just drive off in his minivan.
So now they have all the wonderful psychological profilers on...including some 300 lb private detective...and they are all talking about this like these guys are deranged or disturbed. They all refer to "spree" killers and "serial" killers.
Excuse me, but I'd like to see the list of serial killing TEAMS in American history! And I'd like to learn more about the spree killers who take 10 shots, get 10 kills, including one within 50 yards of a state trooper in plain sight and then vanish without a trace.
These guys have training, motivation, and resources and they are operating as a team. The fact that they shot with the cop right there tells me they were totally confident. I believe they plan these like operations, script them, rehearse them, conduct recons and then execute them LIKE OPERATIONS.
Who does that sound like to you?
Why isn't the media even thinking about the Islamic terrorism angle?
Also: this sniper was taking a big chance with daylight attacks in an urban environment, including one with a cop in plain sight. That (to me) implies that he has area security and avenues of egress and methods of egress covered. That's a lot easier to do in a daylight urban scenario if you have a team, as opposed to a lone gunman.
The fact that these attacks occurred just as the tanker was blown up in Yemen also makes me suspicious. Not to mention the 1 year anniversary of Enduring Freedom.
Just talked to a close friend who is with a DC think tank and is also a retired Col. of Marines. He is tuned in to law enforcement in the DC area as well as he is also a director of a company that sells computer equipment designed for tactical and security use. He has personal and professional contacts with law enforcement in the DC area. Also, his wife was two blocks away from one of the shootings when it happened, and in fact when he heard that a woman in her 30s had been killed in that particular spot while vacuuming her vehicle, he was extremely worried, because that fit her description. He couldn't reach her by phone for a good 15 minutes.
In general: it should be remembered that the month of October was the month in which Sheikh Omar Abdel al-Rahman, OBL's favorite mullah, and a top OBL lieutenant, Ayman al-Zawahiri, were convicted in connection with the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Also, October was the month in which we started our assault on the Taliban and al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
These aren't some bad militia boys who got into some bad moonshine...these guys aren't shooting up the countryside. They're likely conducting recon, setting up their shots and bugging out to live to do it again. My friend tells me that terrorism is definitely on everyone's lips and minds and that the Feds have involved in this out the ying yang from the get go...BATF, FBI...even Secret Service because of the proximity to DC.
My buddy points out that Al Qaeda said specifically that it would target schools, so this might be the start of something.
GET THIS:
Two of the shots were HEAD SHOTS at a moving target at 150 meters. While a tourso shot at 150 meters is not a terribly hard shot for someone with training, a HEAD SHOT at 150 meters on a moving target would be a virtually impossible shot for a nut with no training. Next time you go to the gun show, take a look at the guy to your left and the guy to your right. Chances are, unless they grew up hunting or were in the military, you'd be pretty safe if they took a shot at you at 150yds while you were moving. Hint: Marines qualify out to the 500 yard line with the M16A2. That is what training will do. I qualified expert and am still an avid shooter today. I shoot a heavy barrel AR15A2 in 5.56mm and a National Match M1A in 7.62 NATO. I am NOT at all confident that I could get a head shot on a moving target at 150 meters. In fact...I would not even try. I would shoot center of mass. What all this indicates is a very highly trained shooter with good gear and most likely a spotter.
And GET THIS as well:
My buddy tells me that the FBI al Qaeda profilers have been predicting some sort of random attack as a contrast to 9-11. Something that sends the message: "no one anywhere is safe from us." al Qaeda has specifically said that they have the right to kill hundreds of thousands of "American children." This fits in with the critique of the al Qaeda training video that came out not long ago.
Here is another coincidence (?): In his Oct 4th column, Bill Gertz of the Washington Times said: "U.S. intelligence agencies received reports this week indicating Islamic terrorists have targeted American schools for attack, intelligence officials said. The reports indicate that the targeting includes plans to attack all levels of educational institutions in the United States, ranging from elementary schools to colleges and universities, said officials familiar with the reports." One of the victims was a 13 year old schoolboy.
Now REALLY GET THIS:
In the public release, law enforecemnt has not mentioned any race or ethnicity of the perps. But the unclassified bulletin that is being circulated by the Feds describes says that one of the local deputies got a description of two "Hispanics" but the feds think the guy just profiled them as Hispanics from law enforcement experience and that the two could easily be Middle Eastern. My buddy did not know if the deputy saw the perps himself or took a description from witnesses. The original vehicle was described as a white delivery van and today the suspect vehicle was a white Chevy Astro Van (but if these guys are pros like everyone thinks, neither vehicle will be showing up again).
A few more interesting insights from my friend:
The killer (or killers) must have felt secure in his surroundings. Most of the killings happened on or near busy main avenues during rush hour.
To say nothing of the fact that the region is crawling with law enforcement of every kind, being so close to the nation's capital.
Obviously it's someone who has murdered before or has been trained and conditioned to kill people. My buddy doubts many first-time killers, to say nothing of social outcasts or sickos, would have the nerve to kill with a single shot, then drive to another location within a half-hour, then kill again with another single shot.
Notably, all the areas of the killings are highly integrated racially. Had the killings been two miles west or south, they would have been in practically all-white or all-black neighborhoods, respectively, so a non-white/non-black killer (i.e., Middle Eastern) would not have been noticed in the areas in question.
Finally, the coincidental timing of these two incidents is another reason to suspect al Qaeda terrorism. Blow up a ship at the same time they're plinking away at innocent civilians...
If they haven't already done so, the cops and Feds need to bring in some guys from the Scout-Sniper School in Quantico to analyze this thing. Most law enforcement snipers don't think like the guys who did these horrible acts. And street cops certainly do not. The best way to get a sniper is with another sniper. The Marine snipers are the best in the world.
As a member he probably had access to a range in which to hone his shooting skill.
As for the perp being a terrorist, I don't think so.
As for motive, he might have some warped sense of reasoning that tells him that what he is doing will in some way help enhance the war against the true terrorists......
Regardless of who the killer is, leftist authoritarian, or jihadist they are attacking the US. They are assaulting the Capitol. They're also being quite forward about doing their killing N. and S. of the home base of America's 911 force at Quantico, VA. Quantico is where Marine concepts, doctrine, training, and equipment of the future are concieved and taught. The killers have been studying and learning Marine warfare doctrine to attack Americans and their Freedom.
Raghead terrorists are just too f*ckin stupid to elude police after 10 or so attacks take down four airliners and 8 buildings in less than an hour.
Actually, I think I read an article here on FR once that stated someone did claim responsibility for flight 800. Can anyone here help out with that?
They had a training camp right here at the homebase area of FR. In fact, one of their "students' shot and killed a young Deputy here, and the description of the shooting was that he had "sniper training."
Could also be some nut case. Also very probable.
Time will tell.
I just want them caught and eradicated.
We can't ever underestimate them or make fun of their seemingly simple plans that have proven accurate and deadly!
It would be a mistake to assume that a muslim couldn't use tarot cards, or write "I am God" across it.
My wife is from the middle east and insists that it is full of superstition and occultism, including the "evil eye" and all sorts of fascination with "jinn" or "spirits." I don't know of any particular link with Tarot, but on its face, it would not be in contradiction to Islam as practiced by ordinary people.
Also, there have been times when religious fanatics in the muslim world have tried to identify themselves as God or spirits of God and managed to get away with it. Ismail, grandson of the great Safavid leader Junnayid (in Iran) was designated "mahdi" (Messiah) and went on from there to be called "The Living One" and wrote the following poem, and others like it:
I am Very God, Very God, Very God!
Come now, O blind man who has lost the path,
behold the Truth!"
I am that absolute agent of whom they speak"
It was Ismail that finally declared that Shiism would be the path for Persians (Iranians) to follow. According to Mackey ("Persia, Islam, and the Soul of a Nation"),
"..Ismail and the "qizilbash" (warrior class) won converts and imposed their creed though example, zeal, massacre, pillage and torture. In Khorasan, Ismail freed the city from Sunni control by personally killing the Uzbek king...Taking the skull, he ordered it set in gold to create a drinking cup for the sultan of the Ottoman empire, a gruesome statement of rising Safavid power."
My guess is that it is el Qaeda and that they are shooting at suburban locations (the heart of America) where they can park above and far enough away to wait for an opportunity and then get away fast. Strip malls and parking lots are open fields. These guys are simply hunting and killing American people with impugnity--letting us know that we are powerless to stop them.
Good thought. Maybe the shooter has friends who worked at some of those places.
The very knowledge that I operate from is the knowledge of the origin of all things which is designed to solve the problem. This great showing of divinity from Me, Allah in Person, is being shown in My Home, first, and from there it will mushroom across the country and world.
The most unanswered question in the Blackman's mind (Muslim) in North America at this time is: "Is Royall Allah?" Of course, the answer is yes. I knew before I began to do anything in the way of making this known -- the world has not known Allah, nor How He Does Things for so long that the past and present generations have lost the ability to discern. Knowing this, I Had To Employ a process that would gradually bring them back into The Know, and now I Have grown enough to attract the attention of Satan himself, and he is presently waging all-out war, against Me - the Head of Righteousness.
This poses a problem for the masses and the would-be righteous because the world is very familiar with Satan. Because of their daily practice of his ways. So it makes it very easy for one to accept the spin that Satan puts to what I am doing. Almost to the point of killing the will to do the necessary investigation of what is being done by Me - Allah in Person. Leaving the arduous task of doing EVERYTHING, even to pointing this out of how to tell if I am indeed Allah or not.
and this:
The many tapes and writings that are accessible to the investigator will yield clear evidence that there is no negative or devlishment presented from Me, even in the face of the detractors, doubting, prodding and goring, trying to get me to acknowledge their god by the use of some of his ways.
There is a picture of this guy at the top of his page too, he favors a hispanic black man. This islam religion is just to dang weird.
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