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Evidence Links Monday's Shooting to Spree
Foxnews.com ^ | 10/7/2002 | Foxnews.com, AP

Posted on 10/07/2002 2:21:22 PM PDT by caa26

BOWIE, Md. — Police say ballistic evidence they have recovered from a 13-year-old boy shot in front of his school in Bowie, Md., Monday links the shooting to several in the Washington area.

Evidence recovered from the teen has been linked to the other shootings in the Washington area, Prince George's County Police Chief Gerald Wilson said today.

The boy, who sustained a single gunshot wound to the chest, was in critical but stable condition following almost three hours of surgery at Children's Hospital in Washington, D.C., and doctors said they were "satisfied" with how he got through the operation.

The victims in last week's shootings -- six people killed and one wounded -- also were felled by a single shot.

Dr. Martin Eichelberger said the boy had a gunshot wound to the abdomen, which went through his chest, then into his spleen, stomach, pancreas and lung.

He said the boy's spleen was removed along with part of his stomach and pancreas, but he says those are organs a person can "live without."

Eichelberger said the major concerns now for doctors are whether the boy continues to bleed, and whether he has problems breathing. He said the next eight hours are crucial to determine the boy's recovery.

The doctor said the surgery team made a special effort to find a portion of the bullet, which they gave to police.

FNC Monday's shooting happened well before classes were scheduled to begin, so there were not a lot of witnesses, Wilson said. A gunshot was heard, and the boy slumped over and told his aunt, who had brought him to school, that he thought he had been shot, Wilson said.

His aunt took him to a small hospital in this suburb northeast of Washington, and then he was transferred by helicopter to Children's Hospital.

Police cars surrounded the school and officers put up crime scene tape and searched the campus.

Sharon Healy had just sent her 12-year-old son, Brandon, to school on his bicycle when she heard of the shooting shortly after 8 a.m. outside Benjamin Tasker Middle School. She said she ran there and pulled him out of class.

"You think you're safe, but you're only as safe as your next step," Healy said.

Said her son: "I was scared."

Othar Haskins, 13, standing outside the school with his mother, said he was a friend of the wounded boy.

"He's funny, he's always around friends," Othar said. "He helps you out when you need it. He's a good friend." Othar cried and put his head on his mother's shoulder as he spoke.

AP Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose Last Wednesday and Thursday, five people were shot to death by a sniper in a 16-hour span in Montgomery County. A sixth victim was killed Thursday in Washington, D.C. On Friday, a woman was shot and wounded in Virginia.

"All of our victims have been innocent and defenseless, but now we're stepping over the line," Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose said. "Shooting a kid -- it's getting to be really, really personal now." At one point, tears streamed down his face.

In an afternoon briefing, Moose said police were investigating yet another shooting in Washington.

But Washington police spokesman Kenny Bryson said the shooting occurred in an apparent robbery and there's "no link whatsoever" to the sniper attacks.

White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said federal authorities -- the attorney general, Treasury Department and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms -- have been "very involved on the ground and have lent support and equipment."

Asked if there was any evidence of terrorism, Fleischer replied: "I've not heard anything like that, but the fact of the matter is that people are trying to determine who the shooter is, or shooters are, and we continue to help local officials in that endeavor."

Montgomery schools had planned a normal schedule with extra security, but after the Prince George's shooting, officials initiated a "code blue" alert, keeping students inside during recess and lunchtime, Moose said. Prince George's schools and some other schools in the region took similar steps.

The five Montgomery County victims were all gunned down in public places: two at gas stations, one outside a grocery, another outside a post office, another as he mowed the grass at an auto dealership, and the sixth, a 72-year-old man, killed on a Washington street corner. Each victim was shot once from a distance. There were no known witnesses.

Tests confirmed that the same weapon was used to kill four victims.

Ballistics evidence also linked the Maryland slayings with the wounding of a 43-year-old woman on Friday. She was shot in the back in a parking lot at a Michaels craft store in Fredericksburg, Va., and was in fair condition Monday at INOVA Fairfax Hospital.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
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To: Semper911
Family minivan sounds plausible.

As I've said elsewhere, so far the Maryland shootings have happened during rush hour in very dense and busy suburban locales. Knowing both areas (I grew up around the PG/Montgomery area), I cannot fathom how the shooter would be able to casually shoot someone with a rifle and to have no witnesses whatsoever, and no supicious sightings of any kind.

So it seems plausible that a familiy minivan is being used, perhaps with blacked out windows, and operated by a pair of perps.

They pull up within range of the target, open the sliding door on the van, pop a round, close the door and take off. The only special equipment they need is earplugs.

We roughly know their direction travel for the Thursday shootings. I wonder if the targets were all on the right side of the road (relative to that direction of travel), same as the sliding door on a minivan.

41 posted on 10/07/2002 3:09:35 PM PDT by angkor
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To: AmusedBystander
I concur...

Andrew Cunanan

I live in that small South Jersey town where Cunanan killed the caretaker...that weekend after he was here had to be the scarest ever......we didn't know if he left the area or not.

42 posted on 10/07/2002 3:10:35 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Semper911
I agree, they are in a mini van with those darker windows.

They may even be sleeping in it in a State Park or something.

Sac

43 posted on 10/07/2002 3:11:46 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SFBiker80814
I don't think it's an insane person either....they tend to just walk around and shoot things up. this guy has got his act together in his operation with the possible loss of the shaell casing. If it was even his.

Evil certainly. Insane no. Schizophrenics and others suffering from psychosis generally aren't rational enough to formulate the planning required to get away with these types of crimes.

In otherwords people who have lost touch with reality aren't usually capable of these types of crimes.

44 posted on 10/07/2002 3:13:24 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: bonesmccoy
Wouldn't there be available satellite images of the area at the time the shooting occurred? I don't know whether this particular situation would have been photographed, but DC does get more than it's share of overhead surveillance I'm sure.
45 posted on 10/07/2002 3:14:32 PM PDT by rwt60
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To: DugwayDuke
Don't believe he's gone after any Muslims or Arabs?

That might be a tough assignment working the way the shooters do. They seem to be identifying by appearance, which wouldn't make religious or even Arabic affiliation obvious since everyone dresses about the same.

46 posted on 10/07/2002 3:16:12 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: rwt60
Terraserver has a photo from USGS in the early 1990's. Overhead shots would be entirely coincidental. The resolution of the shot and the timing of the shot would be unusual for NSA assets. On the other hand, I don't know all the assets in Low Earth Orbit. So, I suppose they could have gotten lucky, but I doubt it. Spy sats need to be targetted and aimed and positioned in orbit. That's not that easy to maintain and given the international crises, I doubt that we are tasking significant space based spy assets on domestic targets.

This is just hearsay and conjecture though.
47 posted on 10/07/2002 3:20:24 PM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: RightWhale
If they're "radical" Moose Limbs, I'm sure they consider everyone who's not on the Jihad with them as the enemy, whether they're Arab, Muslim, or not.
48 posted on 10/07/2002 3:24:40 PM PDT by PLMerite
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To: caa26
Any ideas how the authorities should react to the next attack?

I'm thinking as many helicopters as is available to sweep the area to look for any unusual movement or people and/or cars located in areas they shouldn't be.

On the ground the police need to swarm the area and be ready to jump on any description or detail that is available.

Maybe wayout, but how about national recon satellite resources able to record the attack area and carefull analysis to determine exactly what was in the area before during and leaving the area.

Literally looking for a needle in haystack.

Not looking forward to the next few days.



49 posted on 10/07/2002 3:32:21 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy
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To: PLMerite
If they're "radical" Moose Limbs

For their sake I hope not. But if it turns out to be so, the moderate Moose Limbs should want to start speaking up against this kind of thing rather than continue their almost unanimous silence. Still nothing more than speculation at this time.

50 posted on 10/07/2002 3:34:03 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: 11B3
I know that they say it is a .223 weapon - but I'd be more willing to bet on a 5.45x39 round from the sounds of the wounds this boy received.

I dunno. M193 yaws and fragments even when fired through 1x9 or 1x7. It does break up better with a cannelure, which most civi factory 55gr loadings don't have. But thinly-jacketed varmint bullets (BlitzKing, V-Max, even Federal 50gr HP) are pretty explosive. The shooter's made hits at a variety of distances; it seems like most of the earlier shootings produced exit wounds, indicating a shorter range (head shot of woman on bench, coffee-cup sized exit hole on lawn-mower victim, blood splatter on mini-van at gas station). The shooting today was likely from longer range, judging by layout of school and fact that there was no exit wound.

5.45x39 is cheap, but not nearly as ubiquitous as .223. Also, only rifles chambered for it (that are readily available in this country) are Romanian AK clones. Not what I'd use for precision shooting.

51 posted on 10/07/2002 3:34:16 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: angkor
I've been thinking the same, a mini-van or a small truck being used by the shooter. Mini-vans and small truck caps have tinted privacy glass and the rearmost side window pivots out for vent. The shooter could shoot out of this opening without opening a windor or door and could possibly be shooting while moving.
52 posted on 10/07/2002 3:38:14 PM PDT by RS_Rider
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To: caa26
Huge bump for homeschooling. What can the educrats say now where the laws are quite strict about home education?
53 posted on 10/07/2002 3:39:57 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Alexander arms makes a M16 clone that fires the 5.45x39 but it is very expensive & would be easy to trace.

The 5.45x39 is a very distinctive projectile, I think if they are saying .223 it probably is.

I would guess one of the very light projectiles from sierra or speer. I know one of those 2 will tumble if it hits bone.

54 posted on 10/07/2002 3:42:22 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: angkor
The only special equipment they need is earplugs.

That's a good point. If you see a guy driving in an adjacent vehicle, wearing earplugs or earmuff-style hearing protectors, watch out! and report it to the police, if you're up in that area.

I wonder if the targets were all on the right side of the road (relative to that direction of travel), same as the sliding door on a minivan.

Lots of mini-vans have sliding doors on both sides these days.

55 posted on 10/07/2002 3:44:28 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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56 posted on 10/07/2002 3:46:37 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
Any ideas how the authorities should react to the next attack?

If the authorities can get him/them GREAT, but Flight 93 should have taught us that it is sometimes better to take matters into our own hands. If anyone sees them DO SOMETHING ... DO ANYTHING .... BUT DON'T DO NOTHING! The reports say they heard a shot, at least the weapon was not totally silenced or suppressed. I hope people take action next time and quit waiting for the "authorities" to solve it.

57 posted on 10/07/2002 4:10:14 PM PDT by Yasotay
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To: FreedomPoster
The only special equipment they need is earplugs.That's why I love FR... there's always something to learn and consider!
58 posted on 10/07/2002 4:12:32 PM PDT by GirlShortstop
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To: bonesmccoy
Thank you, "Bones," for your thorough answer. If this child does recover from the gunshot wounds, will he be able to lead a normal life? I am praying for him, poor kid.
59 posted on 10/07/2002 4:16:20 PM PDT by Wolfstar
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To: caa26
I was watching a movie on TV, and a thought popped into my head, a flash type thing, this is a hired person. He/she lives in Washington, D.C. I don't think the motive is to just kill. I think it's for another reason. I think it's to get anti-gun back in the forefront. No one started screaming about guns the first day. If a kid were hit, they would automatically scream for gun control, or so they thought.
After 9/11, the gun issue became null and void. Many ran to buy guns, and the anti-gun folks have been pushed way behind. I'd assume the cash flow comming to them has almost dried up.
The left, or extreme left, needs to get this back in the news. A Socialist society cannot be controled while the people are armed.
9/11 was a huge set back for the extreme Marxists. I wonder if they'd go this far to pursue their disarmament propaganda.
60 posted on 10/07/2002 4:33:02 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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