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50 States and DC Ranked in Order by Livability of their Better Areas; according to crystalk
8-19-02 | crystalk

Posted on 08/19/2002 11:52:05 AM PDT by crystalk

STATES RATED [Assumes you will grow up, raise a family, or retire--in an AVG spot in the BEST 25% of the State]

[If no regional preference is shown, it means entire State about equally good overall, pick your own best.]

1. Florida [Best areas are in NE, NW, or SW. So friendly and so many jobs, climate an extra.]

2. Georgia [Avoid areas within 35 mi of Atlanta center; better not too close to AL line.]

3. Virginia [Avoid areas >5 mi NW of I-81; if TIED to DC area, live in Va.]

4. South Carolina [better NW and around lgr cities. or in gated comm]

5. North Carolina [Better in West; less good >15 mi E of CLT-GSO line]

6. Tennessee [Much better to E of N’vl-Chatt line]

7. Texas [Best areas SCen or beaches; avoid Mx border zone.]

8. Kentucky [Avoid E 30% of state, or W’most 10%.]

9. Mississippi [Better in S 40% of state, or near universities.]

10. Arkansas [Best in NW; avoid SE 44% of state.]

11. Oklahoma [Better in E/SE 60% of state]

12. Louisiana [Better near NO or lg cities, but if you love Cajuns go Anywhere in S half.]

13. Alabama [Better in Mobile/coast area; or in/near sizable cities, or N/NE area.]

14. Arizona [Best in Cen or SE areas. Pretty desert, pretty hot.]

15. Nevada [Bracing weather in N 90% of state; Vegas and Ariz-type climate in S; low taxes.]

16. New Mexico [Interesting, not as hot as AZ; N half is cold in winter.]

17. Idaho [Climate less cold than you think; beautiful. Boise booms.]

18. Utah [Climate and Mormons not as cold as feared. Scenery forever.]

19. Indiana [Better in Cen, SCen, SE. E areas; avoid the Gary/Chicago area in NW.]

20. South Dakota [Unique place, Indians, Colleges. Scenery better and climate less bad in W qtr]

21. Colorado [better out of City limit of Denver; plains E/SE and deserts W & NW less good.]

22. Oregon [deserts E sunny chilly and lonely; W 40% mild, drizzly, England-style, take your pick]

23. Kansas [better in E 30% or S 30%, of state; avoid in-city Wichita, KC, Topeka.]

24. Wyoming. [Just what you’d think, in all four corners and the center.]

25. West Virginia [best in E half of state, or Chas/Hntgtn area, or near Ohio R; avoid SW and SCen]

26. Pennsylvania [even in Phil & Pitts, some livable areas]

27. Delaware [Only state in NE with net inflow of population, but room runs out soon.]

28. Ohio [Avoid the city limits of largest 6 or 8 cities]

29. New Hampshire [Unique, snowy but low taxes, builds character.]

30. Washington [S half and E quarter really better than popular Seattle area in NW]

31. Maryland [Avoid area within 25 miles of downtown DC or Baltimore.]

32. Montana [Remote chic, or just remote? Neighboring states offer better for less.]

33. Missouri [Better in S half; avoid StL or KC city limits absolutely; their areas if possible.]

34. Rhode Island [New England, but not so stuffy. Good sailing. Italian, family oriented.]

35. Maine [Remote like Montana, but lives on lobster & welfare instead of cattle.]

36. Connecticut [A used-ta-be FTMP. Avoid Hartford; E third of state not as bad.]

37. New Jersey [No-go areas getting smaller, but stay out of Camden, Elizabeth, and Newark.]

38. California [Get real Mexico at $15/day; avoid this $750/day 3d world. Polluted, Baja is Better.]

39. Nebraska [American Gothic; prairie still wholesome. Nice folks, Go Big Red!]

40. Hawaii [Corrupt, expensive, a social catastrophe in the making? Trouble in paradise.]

41. Iowa [Hogs, corn, freezing cold, some of looniest leftist universities anywhere.]

42. Michigan [Avoid SE and rust belts. Snowy. Rural areas lovely in summer.]

43. Illinois [Big city, decent areas far to S, but still 24 pts below IN and 6 below NJ!]

44. Minnesota [Beginning to wake up from Marxist dreams, but still cold as ever]

45. Wisconsin [9 months frozen; 3 of mosquitoes, leftist state U attracts kooks. Cheesy.]

46. Alaska [Not all of state is as cold as feared; envo-wackos, moose, affirm-action natives, grizzlies.]

47. North Dakota [Nice people, but who deserves THIS climate?]

48. Massachusetts [Loony-left Tax Hell , with once-great universities. Avoid Boston, Brockton.]

49. New York State [ Tax Hell. NYC OK for richest; see lower Hudson valley & Long Is; forget rest.]

50. Vermont [Taxes and enviro- wackos. Hell freezes over, with maple syrup and socialism.]

51. Dis. of Col. [Dangerous, dirty city has tourist sites, universities. Power in the air, though.]


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To: crystalk
"45. Wisconsin [9 months frozen; 3 of mosquitoes, leftist state U attracts kooks. Cheesy.]

Thanks for reminding me why I left Wisconsin 39 years ago! Trouble is, I have since lived in Cleveland, OH, Chicago, IL (northern suburbs) and St. Louis, MO! Not making much progress I guess.

101 posted on 08/19/2002 3:35:21 PM PDT by FairWitness
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To: discostu
Sedona, Cottonwood, Montezuma, Black Canyon City, Camp Verde, Carefree.

Albuquerque has average July temperature of 78 F; Phoenix 93, Tucson 84, Vegas 87, Flagstaff 67, Santa Fe 68, Roswell 79, Las Cruces 84, Yuma 96, etc.

If I had to live in Arizona, how about there where the Prescott Valley road hits the interstate between Camp Verde and BCC. Centrally located.

But cannot equal the East Beach of Fla for one's ability to live here without any heating or cooling, year round, without really suffering very much. Bin here, done that.

102 posted on 08/19/2002 3:40:40 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: SamAdams76
Why wait? All those towns are lovely, anywhere in the Valley, how about Lexington, Waynesboro, Buena Vista, Harrisonburg, New Market, Woodstock, Wytheville, Radford, Marion, Abingdon? Many even have universities or nice community colleges now. Great place for kids to grow up.

Nasty in Jan and Feb, hole up with a book or come to Fla.

103 posted on 08/19/2002 3:47:40 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: Paul Atreides
Paul, I too live in north Alabama. How nice it is that for once we are ranked near the TOP of a list rather than at the BOTTOM of one!
104 posted on 08/19/2002 3:51:46 PM PDT by proudofthesouth
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To: ErnBatavia
Seriously, many seemingly backward towns and counties are surprisingly quick of access to the Atlanta airport, from which nonstops all over the world used to fly...before 9/11, doubt anyone much will be flying now...
105 posted on 08/19/2002 3:52:44 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: crystalk
Irish, German, and Cherokee. And you?
106 posted on 08/19/2002 3:52:55 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: crystalk
Or to Charlotte or Raleigh, or Houston, Dallas, or New Orleans, or any Florida airports, of course.
107 posted on 08/19/2002 3:55:36 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: crystalk
My very first "jet" flight(s) were out of Meridian - to get back home to Los Angeles.....as I remember, it was Meridian to Gulfport to NOLA to Dallas and then to LAX.....by the end of the day, I was an experienced jet traveler (this was probably early 1969)......I love the south, and am glad to have my roots be from Alabama!!
108 posted on 08/19/2002 3:59:58 PM PDT by ErnBatavia
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To: viligantcitizen
Ancestry mostly Scots and English, but Cherokee, Jewish, Norwegian, and Huguenot-living-in-Belgium, all figure in, too.

What nearly everyone in America is, Irish and German, we are not at all, SFAIK.

Also descended from a soldier under Washington, John Alden on the Mayflower, and Gov. Phipps of Massachusetts who ordered the witches to hang.

109 posted on 08/19/2002 4:05:14 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: austingirl; crystalk
You were miserable in Mass? Pray tell, why? I am just kidding.

I do love my state but it has become exactly how crystalk described it. Crystalk, the funny part is that although the Looney Left is very strong here, it is the labor presence that gets them elected.

A lot of blue collar workers here are very socially conservative yet would vote for the devil himself if he promised forced higher wages for labor... which is what they do. :D

110 posted on 08/19/2002 4:07:10 PM PDT by Arioch7
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To: sciencediet
Unemployment is NOT low. As far as a great culture, yes! Our ancestors DID build a great culture and Mass has a great history. Key hords are HAD and HISTORY.
111 posted on 08/19/2002 4:09:00 PM PDT by Arioch7
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To: crystalk
You hit it right for South Carolina and Georgia, and not many people know where the nicest part of SC is. Also, the best place in Texas is right around Kerrville/Fredericksburg/NewBraunsfels. There are some nice places in Maryland--out in the hillier west and on the dively beautiful Eastern Shore marshland, where conservatives dominate and the produce is splendid.
112 posted on 08/19/2002 4:12:58 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: crystalk
They keep a lot of those Lisbon perfessers out the other end of the state nearer New Yawk, too. You're also right about that left turn stuff. It's a queer state for sure, where even a lot of Republicans are Democrats.

But we drive fast, we get the best of all four seasons and have the best sports fans in the nation.

113 posted on 08/19/2002 4:23:16 PM PDT by Lady Jag
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To: sciencediet
Yeah, actually I am just kidding, there are some good people there but they deserve a better environment.

As for me, I spent about 11 years in Mass between Feb 1 and May 15 in 1972. Or so it seemed.

114 posted on 08/19/2002 4:25:50 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: Arioch7
I found the knee-jerk liberal attitude too much to stomach, especially when coupled with the Puritan mentality. I lived west of Boston in Acton. Since they are preserving that area as it was in Revolutionary times, we had no decent roads, no shopping, and no restaurants. I about died. Thank God I'm back in Texas.
115 posted on 08/19/2002 4:29:45 PM PDT by austingirl
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To: wjcsux
If you want to know why California is rated 3rd world, spend a week touring Los Angeles County. You will have your answer! I advise having an armored vehicle in Watts and Inglewood.

Oh you bet, and all of California is one big Watts and Inglewood. I am heading out to uh, Cincinnati, or Detroit or maybe Louisiana, or, uh maybe south Dakota......Don't go to California, it's all a third world. As soon as I am done cooking these Halibut steaks, bredded Oysters and three nice Pacific Salmon with Cilantro and Serrano Aioli, I am out of here.

Wish me luck!

116 posted on 08/19/2002 4:32:39 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: crystalk
No thanks. Any state whose greatest contribution to the union was it's native son, BJ Clinton, and the concept of family trees that don't branch is not to my taste!
117 posted on 08/19/2002 4:35:32 PM PDT by Kozak
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To: Arioch7
Unemployment is NOT low. As far as a great culture, yes! Our ancestors DID build a great culture and Mass has a great history. Key hords are HAD and HISTORY.

I didn't say unemployment was low in Mass.; I don't know what it is.

There is most definitely a lot of kinky stuff about Mass. Like it was started by Puritans who had a lot of weird ideas. And there are too damn many Democrats, an old part of Mass. history, too.

But, you know, some Republicans have to live here and if you pick the right parts of the state, it's pretty nice. Southeastern Mass. is Zone 6, as warm as a few states below the Mason-Dixon line and the state is 70% forested. Plus the overall crime rate is lower than much of Florida's.

118 posted on 08/19/2002 4:40:32 PM PDT by Lady Jag
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To: Arioch7
I should've checked what you were replying to. Yeah, I don't know the unemployment rate in Mass. or how it compares with anyone else. Can't comment.
119 posted on 08/19/2002 4:42:46 PM PDT by Lady Jag
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To: Brad Cloven
"I'm a recent transplant from Seattle, one of several West Coast cess pools of humanity, and I'm loving it."

Talk to us next spring. In ND that would be June. )))

120 posted on 08/19/2002 4:46:23 PM PDT by dagtaggart
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