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50 States and DC Ranked in Order by Livability of their Better Areas; according to crystalk
8-19-02 | crystalk

Posted on 08/19/2002 11:52:05 AM PDT by crystalk

STATES RATED [Assumes you will grow up, raise a family, or retire--in an AVG spot in the BEST 25% of the State]

[If no regional preference is shown, it means entire State about equally good overall, pick your own best.]

1. Florida [Best areas are in NE, NW, or SW. So friendly and so many jobs, climate an extra.]

2. Georgia [Avoid areas within 35 mi of Atlanta center; better not too close to AL line.]

3. Virginia [Avoid areas >5 mi NW of I-81; if TIED to DC area, live in Va.]

4. South Carolina [better NW and around lgr cities. or in gated comm]

5. North Carolina [Better in West; less good >15 mi E of CLT-GSO line]

6. Tennessee [Much better to E of N’vl-Chatt line]

7. Texas [Best areas SCen or beaches; avoid Mx border zone.]

8. Kentucky [Avoid E 30% of state, or W’most 10%.]

9. Mississippi [Better in S 40% of state, or near universities.]

10. Arkansas [Best in NW; avoid SE 44% of state.]

11. Oklahoma [Better in E/SE 60% of state]

12. Louisiana [Better near NO or lg cities, but if you love Cajuns go Anywhere in S half.]

13. Alabama [Better in Mobile/coast area; or in/near sizable cities, or N/NE area.]

14. Arizona [Best in Cen or SE areas. Pretty desert, pretty hot.]

15. Nevada [Bracing weather in N 90% of state; Vegas and Ariz-type climate in S; low taxes.]

16. New Mexico [Interesting, not as hot as AZ; N half is cold in winter.]

17. Idaho [Climate less cold than you think; beautiful. Boise booms.]

18. Utah [Climate and Mormons not as cold as feared. Scenery forever.]

19. Indiana [Better in Cen, SCen, SE. E areas; avoid the Gary/Chicago area in NW.]

20. South Dakota [Unique place, Indians, Colleges. Scenery better and climate less bad in W qtr]

21. Colorado [better out of City limit of Denver; plains E/SE and deserts W & NW less good.]

22. Oregon [deserts E sunny chilly and lonely; W 40% mild, drizzly, England-style, take your pick]

23. Kansas [better in E 30% or S 30%, of state; avoid in-city Wichita, KC, Topeka.]

24. Wyoming. [Just what you’d think, in all four corners and the center.]

25. West Virginia [best in E half of state, or Chas/Hntgtn area, or near Ohio R; avoid SW and SCen]

26. Pennsylvania [even in Phil & Pitts, some livable areas]

27. Delaware [Only state in NE with net inflow of population, but room runs out soon.]

28. Ohio [Avoid the city limits of largest 6 or 8 cities]

29. New Hampshire [Unique, snowy but low taxes, builds character.]

30. Washington [S half and E quarter really better than popular Seattle area in NW]

31. Maryland [Avoid area within 25 miles of downtown DC or Baltimore.]

32. Montana [Remote chic, or just remote? Neighboring states offer better for less.]

33. Missouri [Better in S half; avoid StL or KC city limits absolutely; their areas if possible.]

34. Rhode Island [New England, but not so stuffy. Good sailing. Italian, family oriented.]

35. Maine [Remote like Montana, but lives on lobster & welfare instead of cattle.]

36. Connecticut [A used-ta-be FTMP. Avoid Hartford; E third of state not as bad.]

37. New Jersey [No-go areas getting smaller, but stay out of Camden, Elizabeth, and Newark.]

38. California [Get real Mexico at $15/day; avoid this $750/day 3d world. Polluted, Baja is Better.]

39. Nebraska [American Gothic; prairie still wholesome. Nice folks, Go Big Red!]

40. Hawaii [Corrupt, expensive, a social catastrophe in the making? Trouble in paradise.]

41. Iowa [Hogs, corn, freezing cold, some of looniest leftist universities anywhere.]

42. Michigan [Avoid SE and rust belts. Snowy. Rural areas lovely in summer.]

43. Illinois [Big city, decent areas far to S, but still 24 pts below IN and 6 below NJ!]

44. Minnesota [Beginning to wake up from Marxist dreams, but still cold as ever]

45. Wisconsin [9 months frozen; 3 of mosquitoes, leftist state U attracts kooks. Cheesy.]

46. Alaska [Not all of state is as cold as feared; envo-wackos, moose, affirm-action natives, grizzlies.]

47. North Dakota [Nice people, but who deserves THIS climate?]

48. Massachusetts [Loony-left Tax Hell , with once-great universities. Avoid Boston, Brockton.]

49. New York State [ Tax Hell. NYC OK for richest; see lower Hudson valley & Long Is; forget rest.]

50. Vermont [Taxes and enviro- wackos. Hell freezes over, with maple syrup and socialism.]

51. Dis. of Col. [Dangerous, dirty city has tourist sites, universities. Power in the air, though.]


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Needed to wake up sleepy FR day. Flame suit on.

Read em and weep.

1 posted on 08/19/2002 11:52:05 AM PDT by crystalk
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Alabama [Better in Mobile/coast area; or in/near sizable cities, or N/NE area.]

Heh heh, I live in North Alabama.

2 posted on 08/19/2002 11:54:20 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: crystalk
Too bad about Ioway. As a grad of one of its schools, I'd have to agree, tho.
3 posted on 08/19/2002 11:55:03 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: crystalk
What research led to these conclusions? What criteria?
4 posted on 08/19/2002 11:58:19 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: billhilly
Pure afflatus and inspiration from beyond.
5 posted on 08/19/2002 12:01:18 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: crystalk
Toaplan [All your base are belong to us, Take off every 'zig', For great justice]
6 posted on 08/19/2002 12:02:00 PM PDT by BufordP
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To: crystalk
It's sunny, 75 degrees and low humidity, here in Fargo. My commute (the longest in the city) took 15 minutes through farm fields. Best SAT scores in the nation. Bums don't venture this far north. My 3,600 sq. ft. house cost well under $200K. Garbage bill is $7.00 a month. Neighborhood empties Sunday morning for services. "Cultural Conservatism" is mentioned regularly and favorably. Among the lowest tax rates in the nation. All levels of government have avoided tax hikes this year.

I'm a recent transplant from Seattle, one of several West Coast cess pools of humanity, and I'm loving it.

7 posted on 08/19/2002 12:12:56 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie
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To: billhilly
What research led to these conclusions? What criteria?

I think that's pretty obvious -

south = good
north = bad

I like how California (#38) is described as "Third World" yet Tennessee (#6), Kentucky (#8) and Mississippi (#9) are all in the top 10.

8 posted on 08/19/2002 12:14:03 PM PDT by gdani
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To: gdani
I think the confession by crystalk that he/she is blowing wind is probably a better answer, but I kinda like some of the conclusions myself.
9 posted on 08/19/2002 12:21:40 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: crystalk
You tell them! Wisconsin bad. Very bad. Stay away! Awful!
Especially all you F.I.B's who are up here all summer (BOTH weekends) and crowd the best spots. Just leave us to our safety, clean air and water, open spaces, hunting, fishing, lack of "diversity" and Cows. (This of course excludes Madison and Milwaukee which you are cordially invited to, they're not really part of Wisconsin anyway).
10 posted on 08/19/2002 12:23:52 PM PDT by Kozak
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To: Brad Cloven
Neighborhood empties Sunday morning for services.

Shhhhhhhhhh. My neighbor's (2 doors down, about 1/2 mile from us) were robbed this past Saturday - mid-morning - so now I'm paranoid.

11 posted on 08/19/2002 12:24:38 PM PDT by Quilla
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To: crystalk
I grew up in Chicago #43 (yuck) and now live in Austin (God bless Texas) #7. Spent a miserable 3 years in Mass #48. Lived in Arlington VA #3 for a time - best place to live if you're stuck with DC. So, from my personal experience I tend to agree with the ratings, although I would rate Texas #1.
12 posted on 08/19/2002 12:24:52 PM PDT by austingirl
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To: crystalk
but, but, but, I thought the south was nothing but a bunch of backward hillbilly hicks. But, but, but, I thought northerners were enlightened.

Sorta confirms what a lot of us have known for a long time.

13 posted on 08/19/2002 12:28:24 PM PDT by Gurn
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To: gdani
I like how California (#38) is described as "Third World" yet Tennessee (#6), Kentucky (#8) and Mississippi (#9) are all in the top 10.

ARKANSAS is #10! crystalk must have a vision of heaven that includes marrying a cousin and living in a trailer....
14 posted on 08/19/2002 12:28:35 PM PDT by Kozak
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To: crystalk
California is still #1 by a mile. No amount of left wing loons can tarnish the natural superiority of our state's climate and terrain. Once you've lived here a while, it's nearly impossible to move anywhere else.

And the counterrevolution is coming...

15 posted on 08/19/2002 12:44:45 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: crystalk
Vermont as far a guns go, it is the only state where one can carry a handgun open or concealed without going through the red tape of getting a handgun permit. So in my opinion being a one issue voter, I would kick vermont up a little bit.
16 posted on 08/19/2002 12:48:13 PM PDT by hoosierboy
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To: crystalk; plain talk
Plain Talk posts Best Cities to Live from MSNBC.

Boston, Massachusetts. If you move to Boston, you'll find an outstanding level of arts and culture. A city rich in history and tradition, Boston offers sites of historical interest, picturesque architecture, and beautiful parks and scenery. Job growth is good, due to a boom in the high-tech and electronic industries, and the unemployment rate is low. The city boasts excellent libraries, museums, theaters, galleries, and performing arts groups. A major center of higher education, Boston has more than 65 colleges and universities in its metropolitan area.

17 posted on 08/19/2002 12:48:41 PM PDT by Lady Jag
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To: crystalk
That is hilarious for Oklahoma -- SE OK is considered Little Dixie and not some place I would want to raise my kids. Norman is the best city in Oklahoma to live in IMHO! We have reasonable house prices, great shopping, great restaurants, rolling hills, a really nice lake at Lake Thunderbird, good schools, and are home to The University of Oklahoma Sooners.

Of course, if you take this literally I guess you could count us in the 60% of the state in the SE since we are in the South Center of OK and there is 50% of the State west of us where I wouldn't want to live by the way!
18 posted on 08/19/2002 12:52:00 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: crystalk
10. Arkansas [Best in NW; avoid SE 44% of state.]

Man, you sure got us pegged. NW half is splendid, SE half is awful (I live right on the dividing line).

19 posted on 08/19/2002 12:56:30 PM PDT by Sloth
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To: crystalk
Florida [Best areas are in NE, NW, or SW.

Btw, isn't SW Florida also known as the Gulf of Mexico? :)

20 posted on 08/19/2002 12:58:56 PM PDT by Sloth
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