Posted on 08/11/2002 3:59:04 PM PDT by vannrox
August 6, 2002Skulls Found in Africa and in Europe Challenge Theories of Human OriginsBy JOHN NOBLE WILFORDwo ancient skulls, one from central Africa and the other from the Black Sea republic of Georgia, have shaken the human family tree to its roots, sending scientists scrambling to see if their favorite theories are among the fallen fruit. Probably so, according to paleontologists, who may have to make major revisions in the human genealogy and rethink some of their ideas about the first migrations out of Africa by human relatives. Yet, despite all the confusion and uncertainty the skulls have caused, scientists speak in superlatives of their potential for revealing crucial insights in the evidence-disadvantaged field of human evolution. The African skull dates from nearly 7 million years ago, close to the fateful moment when the human and chimpanzee lineages went their separate ways. The 1.75-million-year-old Georgian skull could answer questions about the first human ancestors to leave Africa, and why they ventured forth. Still, it was a shock, something of a one-two punch, for two such momentous discoveries to be reported independently in a single week, as happened in July. "I can't think of another month in the history of paleontology in which two such finds of importance were published," said Dr. Bernard Wood, a paleontologist at George Washington University. "This really exposes how little we know of human evolution and the origin of our own genus Homo." Every decade or two, a fossil discovery upsets conventional wisdom. One more possible "missing link" emerges. An even older member of the hominid group, those human ancestors and their close relatives (but not apes), comes to light. Some fossils also show up with attributes so puzzling that scientists cannot decide where they belong, if at all, in the human lineage. At each turn, the family tree, once drawn straight as a ponderosa pine, has had to be reconfigured with more branches leading here and there and, in some cases, apparently nowhere. "When I went to medical school in 1963, human evolution looked like a ladder," Dr. Wood said. The ladder, he explained, stepped from monkey to modern human through a progression of intermediates, each slightly less apelike than the previous one. But the fact that modern Homo sapiens is the only hominid living today is quite misleading, an exception to the rule dating only since the demise of Neanderthals some 30,000 years ago. Fossil hunters keep finding multiple species of hominids that overlapped in time, reflecting evolutionary diversity in response to new or changed circumstances. Not all of them could be direct ancestors of Homo sapiens. Some presumably were dead-end side branches. So a tangled bush has now replaced a tree as the ascendant imagery of human evolution. Most scientists studying the newfound African skull think it lends strong support to hominid bushiness almost from the beginning. That is one of several reasons Dr. Daniel E. Lieberman, a biological anthropologist at Harvard, called the African specimen "one of the greatest paleontological discoveries of the past 100 years." The skull was uncovered in the desert of Chad by a French-led team under the direction of Dr. Michel Brunet of the University of Poitiers. Struck by the skull's unusual mix of apelike and evolved hominid features, the discoverers assigned it to an entirely new genus and species Sahelanthropus tchadensis. It is more commonly called Toumai, meaning "hope of life" in the local language. In announcing the discovery in the July 11 issue of the journal Nature, Dr. Brunet's group said the fossils a cranium, two lower jaw fragments and several teeth promised "to illuminate the earliest chapter in human evolutionary history." The age, face and geography of the new specimen were all surprises. About a million years older than any previously recognized hominid, Toumai lived close to the time that molecular biologists think was the earliest period in which the human lineage diverged from the chimpanzee branch. The next oldest hominid appears to be the 6-million-year-old Orrorin tugenensis, found two years ago in Kenya but not yet fully accepted by many scientists. After it is Ardipithecus ramidus, which probably lived 4.4 million to 5.8 million years ago in Ethiopia. "A lot of interesting things were happening earlier than we previously knew," said Dr. Eric Delson, a paleontologist at the City University of New York and the American Museum of Natural History. The most puzzling aspect of the new skull is that it seems to belong to two widely separated evolutionary periods. Its size indicates that Toumai had a brain comparable to that of a modern chimp, about 320 to 380 cubic centimeters. Yet the face is short and relatively flat, compared with the protruding faces of chimps and other early hominids. Indeed, it is more humanlike than the "Lucy" species, Australopithecus afarensis, which lived more than 3.2 million years ago. "A hominid of this age," Dr. Wood wrote in Nature, "should certainly not have the face of a hominid less than one-third of its geological age." Scientists suggest several possible explanations. Toumai could somehow be an ancestor of modern humans, or of gorillas or chimps. It could be a common ancestor of humans and chimps, before the divergence. "But why restrict yourself to thinking this fossil has to belong to a lineage that leads to something modern?" Dr. Wood asked. "It's perfectly possible this belongs to a branch that's neither chimp nor human, but has become extinct." Dr. Wood said the "lesson of history" is that fossil hunters are more likely to find something unrelated directly to living creatures more side branches to tangle the evolutionary bush. So the picture of human genealogy gets more complex, not simpler. A few scientists sound cautionary notes. Dr. Delson questioned whether the Toumai face was complete enough to justify interpretations of more highly evolved characteristics. One critic argued that the skull belonged to a gorilla, but that is disputed by scientists who have examined it. Just as important perhaps is the fact that the Chad skull was found off the beaten path of hominid research. Until now, nearly every early hominid fossil has come from eastern Africa, mainly Ethiopia, Kenya and Tanzania, or from southern Africa. Finding something very old and different in central Africa should expand the hunt. "In hindsight, we should have expected this," Dr. Lieberman said. "Africa is big and we weren't looking at all of Africa. This fossil is a wake-up call. It reminds us that we're missing large portions of the fossil record." Although overshadowed by the news of Toumai, the well-preserved 1.75-million-year-old skull from Georgia was also full of surprises, in this case concerning a later chapter in the hominid story. It raised questions about the identity of the first hominids to be intercontinental travelers, who set in motion the migrations that would eventually lead to human occupation of the entire planet. The discovery, reported in the July 5 issue of the journal Science, was made at the medieval town Dmanisi, 50 miles southwest of Tbilisi, the Georgian capital. Two years ago, scientists announced finding two other skulls at the same site, but the new one appears to be intriguingly different and a challenge to prevailing views. Scientists have long been thought that the first hominid out-of-Africa migrants were Homo erectus, a species with large brains and a stature approaching human dimensions. The species was widely assumed to have stepped out in the world once they evolved their greater intelligence and longer legs and invented more advanced stone tools. The first two Dmanisi skulls confirmed one part of the hypothesis. They bore a striking resemblance to the African version of H. erectus, sometimes called Homo ergaster. Their discovery was hailed as the most ancient undisputed hominid fossils outside Africa. But the skulls were associated with more than 1,000 crudely chipped cobbles, simple choppers and scrapers, not the more finely shaped and versatile tools that would be introduced by H. erectus more than 100,000 years later. That undercut the accepted evolutionary explanation for the migrations. The issue has become even more muddled with the discovery of the third skull by international paleontologists led by Dr. David Lordkipanidze of the Georgian State Museum in Tbilisi. It is about the same age and bears an overall resemblance to the other two skulls. But it is much smaller. "These hominids are more primitive than we thought," Dr. Lordkipanidze said in an article in the current issue of National Geographic magazine. "We have a new puzzle." To the discoverers, the skull has the canine teeth and face of Homo habilis, a small hominid with long apelike arms that evolved in Africa before H. erectus. And the size of its cranium suggests a substantially smaller brain than expected for H. erectus. In their journal report, the discovery team estimated the cranial capacity of the new skull to be about 600 cubic centimeters, compared with about 780 and 650 c.c.'s for the other Dmanisis specimens. That is "near the mean" for H. habilis, they noted. Modern human braincases are about 1,400 cubic centimeters. Dr. G. Philip Rightmire, a paleontologist at the State University of New York at Binghamton and a member of the discovery team, said that if the new skull had been found before the other two, it might have been identified as H. habilis. Dr. Ian Tattersall, a specialist in human evolution at the natural history museum in New York City, said the specimen was "the first truly African-looking thing to come from outside Africa." More than anything else, he said, it resembles a 1.9-million-year-old Homo habilis skull from Kenya. For the time being, however, the fossil is tentatively labeled Homo erectus, though it stretches the definition of that species. Scientists are pondering what lessons they can learn from it about the diversity of physical attributes within a single species. Dr. Fred Smith, a paleontologist who has just become dean of arts and sciences at Loyola University in Chicago, agreed that his was a sensible approach, at least until more fossils turn up. Like other scientists, he doubted that two separate hominid species would have occupied the same habitat at roughly the same time. Marked variations within a species are not uncommon; brain size varies within living humans by abut 15 percent. "The possibility of variations within a species should never be excluded," Dr. Smith said. "There's a tendency now for everybody to see three bumps on a fossil instead of two and immediately declare that to be another species." Some discoverers of the Dmanisi skull speculated that these hominids might be descended from ancestors like H. habilis that had already left Africa. In that case, it could be argued that H. erectus itself evolved not in Africa but elsewhere from an ex-African species. If so, the early Homo genealogy would have to be drastically revised. But it takes more than two or even three specimens to reach firm conclusions about the range of variations within a species. Still, Georgia is a good place to start. The three specimens found there represent the largest collection of individuals from any single site older than around 800,000 years. "We have now a very rich collection, of three skulls and three jawbones, which gives us a chance to study very properly this question" of how to classify early hominids, Dr. Lordkipanidze said, and paleontologists are busy this summer looking for more skulls at Dmanisi. "We badly want to know what the functional abilities of the first out-of-Africa migrants were," said Dr. Wood of George Washington University. "What could that animal do that animals that preceded it couldn't? What was the role of culture in this migration? Maybe other animals were leaving and the hominids simply followed." All scholars of human prehistory eagerly await the next finds from Dmanisi, and in Chad. Perhaps they will help untangle some of the bushy branches of the human family tree to reveal the true ancestry of Homo sapiens.
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I wasn't referring to "imperfect self-replicators." I was referring to people. Did you mean people by "imperfect self replicators?"
God's existence and the existence of our souls is the most important matter about which every person must come to a conclusion. For if God exist -- and He does -- we must seek to live our lives in the specific manner that He demands of us. If we come to conclude that He doesn't exist, we make up our own rules. As Stalin did.
To say that the choice in how we live our lives -- whom we serve so to speak -- doesn't matter, is pretty stupid.
Do you really believe Stalin would have been a good person (or at least neutral) rather than an evil SOB if he hadn't been exposed to the theory of evolution?
I guess he would have been restrained by a fear of Hell, from doing the evil he ended up doing. I think a person can be led to Hel; that one can take a young person, expose him to all sorts of vile ideas and succeed in corrupting him entirely.
Could he have ended up as a good person?
Maybe.
Reverend Jim Jones make you suspicious of the ideas of Christianity or organized religion?
No. Jones can be shown to have perverted Christ's teachings by comparing his deeds with what Christ commanded. Stalin cannot be shown to have perverted Darwin's teachings -- at least in moral sense. Note, that I'm not claiming Darwin would advocate Stalin's actions.
Or do you agree with me that evil SOBs will adopt/pervert any convenient argument to serve their evil purposes?
Yes. But is everybody who does evil born without the capability to do good?.
And if so, do you concede that it's possible Stalin declined to follow Christ's teachings because it would have cramped his evil SOB style, rather than because Darwin convinced him to do so?
It's possible. Do think it is possible that he would not have done the evil he did, if he had never been exposed to Darwin?
Balderdash.
Always poisoning the well Patrick with insults and character assassination. Why don't you want discussion Patrick? Are you so afraid that your theory cannot stand on its merits?
I have my doubts about you, of course.
BTW, Jim Jones and Torquemada were inspired by the Bible, but I'll grant you they had fewer victims. OTOH, Stalin was probably inspired rather more by Marx, Lenin, and personal ambition even if Yaroslavksy's account is true. While the book is real, the only other references to it on the web seem to be in creationist literature. Stalin's "Darwinism" didn't keep him from promoting Lysenko, who favored a form of Lamarckianism which would have shocked Darwin, who already knew better.
Do you have any arguments that aren't based on ignorance and illogic?
I'm not aware that Darwin made any moral teachings. The study of science (or geometry, or music, or dentistry) is not the study of morality. So of course Stalin didn't pervert Darwin's moral teachings, because he couldn't pervert that which doesn't exist.
As for the study of evolution being the cause of Stalin's loss of faith (if he ever had any), this means very little. Many people fall away from their faith. Sometimes it's because they suffer a loss they can't accept, or because the preacher turns out to be a scoundrel, or they experience a plain old "crisis of faith." These things happen. Such people don't automatically go on to be mass murderers. Reading Darwin (as millions of people have done with no ill effects) obviously doesn't turn someone into a monster like Stalin. If it did, we'd have millions of Stalins running around.
Well, at least it's not answering with a question as you did to my post 231. :-)
But since, you want an answer to 269, I'll say, "no."
OTOH, Stalin was probably inspired rather more by Marx, Lenin, and personal ambition even if Yaroslavksy's account is true.
Well, no, at least not specifically about rejecting Christ, If Yaroslavksy is right.
Do you have any arguments that aren't based on ignorance and illogic?
I wasn't making an argument. I was describing an event.
Hmmm. Here's my 269 in full:
How about agreeing that Stalin's birth post-dates the origin of the human species (and of life on earth, the earth itself, and the universe) and thus none of the latter are influenced by the former?And the answer is "No?" That's not going to leave us much to discuss.
So once again, I don't have a problem with the existence of a god. Maybe there is one and he has figured out the most optimal settings for the system 'society'. The problem however is that there is not one but many manuals and people even disagree on the meaning of one single manual. So this is no different than figuring out by ourselves what rules create a stable society where the happiness of as many people as possible is as high as possible.
You are correct, I was wrong. Now I understand my mistake. In sexual production we have a pair of organisms and in a stable population there will be two progeny from the organism with the mutant, which according to the laws of chance means that one of the two should carry the mutant gene. So the fate of a new mutation is not as awful as I thought it was.
However, that as you say " A trait which confers neither a survival advantage nor disadvantage remains in the population at a constant frequency" presents severe problems for the theory of evolution. For one thing, such a mutation will never spread through the population. This is necessary for it to be able to gain mutations which will turn it into a favorable mutation and give it the possibility of becoming widely adopted throughout the species.
There is another problem with such a new mutation not being able to spread. Even though it is true that a trait remains in the population at a constant frequency, this is only true when the sample is large. A new mutation has (in a constant size population) only one chance. That is why even such a pro-evolutionist site as TalkOrigins, and a pro-evolutionist author there is forced into the admission that:
Neutral alleles Most neutral alleles are lost soon after they appear. The average time (in generations) until loss of a neutral allele is 2(Ne/N) ln(2N) where N is the effective population size (the number of individuals contributing to the next generation's gene pool) and N is the total population size. Only a small percentage of alleles fix. Fixation is the process of an allele increasing to a frequency at or near one. The probability of a neutral allele fixing in a population is equal to its frequency. For a new mutant in a diploid population, this frequency is 1/2N.
From: Introduction to Evolutionary Biology
This may sound strange to many, but the originator of the theory of population genetics, Ronald A. Fisher in "The Genetical Theory of Natural Selection" (1958), admitted as much in spite of being such a devout evolutionist that he had originally tried to challenge the accuracy of Mendellian genetics. The reason for the loss of such a new gene is quite simply explained. With only one sample, at any time that the laws of chance do not even out, (in this example when neither of the two progeny carries the mutation), the mutation will die out. Since the mutation is not spreading, the likelihood of this happening is quite high. In fact, even a mutation with a slight degree of benefit would also be lost in this manner.
Religion can be very annoying. I love the Bible. I figure it to be the most anti-religious, pro-freedom book every conceived. It's probably why I'm not embarrased about it.
So this is no different than figuring out by ourselves what rules create a stable society where the happiness of as many people as possible is as high as possible.
I don't really disagree with you. But consider this: why should it be a goal to have a "stable society where the happiness of as many people as possible is as high as possible?" Hint: I know the answer. :-)
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