The Question Is Simple, "Why Marry?" Gather Ye Flowers Don't Buy The Garden

Toogood reports ^ | July 1, 2002 | Fred Reed

[xsmommy]

Remember this. It is useful to reflect in moments of unguided passion that, beneath the skin, we are all wet bags of unpleasant organs.

LOL!!!!!!

[Behind Liberal Lines]

Quoth Tom Waits:

All my friends are married
every Tom and Dick and Harry
you must be strong
to go it alone
here's to the bachelors
and the bowery bums
and those who feel that they're the ones
who are better off without a wife

I like to sleep until the crack of noon
midnight howlin' at the moon
goin' out when I wanto, comin' home when I please
I don't have to ask permission
if I want to go out fishing
and I never have to ask for the keys

selfish about my privacy
as long as I can be with me
we get along so well I can't believe
I love to chew the fat with folks
and listen to all your dirty jokes
I'm so thankful for these friends
I do receive

[anniegetyourgun]

Each one doing what is right in his own eyes.....live for self....

AGYG <----shaking head....it doesn't look good for our society when we leave young men with such advice.....

[anniegetyourgun]

SQUEEZE

[AppyPappy]

Also posted here

[hobbes1]

Yes, but some of us come in Really Great Bags!!!!!!

[Interesting Times]

Nice counterpoint. Thanks for the link...

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

One thing missing here. God. Christianity takes a whole different point of view. One lives for the benefit of God, his wife and children, not for himself. It is a matter of choosing one way or the other. One leads to life eternal, the other to eternal damnation.

[That Subliminal Kid]

I have to wonder what life gave Fred Reed in the package called marriage? Sounds like he got royally screwed and wants to believe everyone is going to receive the same raw deal. I just spent the weekend with some couples who are very happy, some of whom have been together going on 30 years. I'd say this Fred Reed fellow is probably a good candidate for suicide judging by some of his pessimistic musings.

[mc5cents]

Ah, the old "Why buy the cow when the milk is free" philosophy. To quote the German soldier on "Laugh In"; "Verrrrrrrryyy interesting... but stupid!"

Thanks just the same, but we don't need any more self-centered, egotistical jerks in the world. We have met our quota. All filled up.

[A Ruckus of Dogs]

Marriage is the best institution for raising the next generation of humans beings.

[Kenton]

Agreed. And at the same time, this guy is right about a lot of it. The only valid reason I can think of these days to get married is a sincere desire to begin a family.

I used to think it was about something called "love" but, well, ya know how fragile and fleeting that can be...

[Life of Brian]

beneath the skin, we are all wet bags

Ohhhh YES! Silky 'WET' golden corn silk. (trembling all over)

[Life of Brian]

One lives for the benefit of God, his wife and children, not for himself.

For sure but if living for the 'benefit' of God, wife and kids is not for himself then he has already lost. One MUST truely WANT and LOVE with JOY to benefit God, wife and kids. Otherwise one is only fooling himself.

[boris]

"while men are far uglier than women, they age better"

How old do I have to get before I become handsome? I'm 51 and time's running out.

I'm ready to be a babe magnet, but for some reason the magic isn't evident.

--Boris

[Orangedog]

AGYG <----shaking head....it doesn't look good for our society when we leave young men with such advice.....

It is a sad outlook on life, but I resectfully submit that it is also the reality of today. Sure, it's a crummy way to view things. But this view wouldn't be so prevelant if the laws and society didn't encourage the destruction of the family and the demonization of men simply because they have a "Y" chromasome and money that they can be fleeced out of.

It is a fact that more than half of all marriages today end in divorce. It's a fact that more than 2/3 of the time, women are the ones filing. It's a fact that if they have children, she will get custody of his children, be forced from his home, lose most of what he has worked for and a large portion of what he will earn for many years. Perhaps you have been fortunate enough to not see this happen to many people around you. I know many people who have been happily married for 20, 30, 40, even 50 years. Those people come from a time where divorce was nearly unthinkable, where when you had problems in the marriage, you worked them out. Unfortunately, the generations that proceeded them live in a much different world. It's a world where a the laws and courts have been stacked in such a way that there is a financial incentive for one person, usually the woman, to have the other person in the marriage, usually the man, forcefully removed from his family. I can't tell you haw many times I have seen this happen because I've litterally lost count.

These men may pass on advice like the author of the article does to his friends and possibly even his sons not out of spite or malace. When he sees how efficiently his life has been dismantled and how he HAD to take it, most men pass on this advice because they don't want to see others, especially his children, put through the wringer for the financial gain of a multi-billion dollar industry that profits from destroying lives.

[Greeklawyer]

There is too much profit in divorce.

Changes that need to be made:

1. Visitation must be fanatically enforced the same way
failure to pay dollars is made.

2. The defacto trade in value of the divoce must somehow be addressed. If you divorce it is not the responsibility of the other party to ensure your standard of living. (consequence of feminist attitutes, View the divorce as a financial bankruptcy of the relationship.)

3. Community property must be eliminated.

4. Infidelity must be a consideration of divorce proceedings. Do not eliminate no fault, just consider the infidelity and its cause in that particular relationship. I remember reading a case where witholding martital relations was intentional cruelty. (she was pushing for him to have an affair to better her position) Choices by both parties should have consequences.

5. Restrict judges and custodial spouses ablity to limit contact children have with the non custodial parent. In other words require written consent and a written plan of how visitation will be conducted if the move is approved.

6. The BIGGIE reward marriage. Eliminate absurd tax penalty for marriage. Reward married people with and without children. Reward marriage for milestones, ie, every 5 or 10 years means some form of lower tax benefit. Institute a surtax on single mothers who avail themselves of a spermbank. (Intentional single parent tax to be collected by the spermbank prior to insemination, they tax cigarets for "burdens" on society.)

[john in missouri]

I take a different view. But then, I also believe in God, homeschooling, abstaining from sex before marriage, family, and a lifetime commitment. And I know there are at least a few others out there who do as well.

[John O]

4. Infidelity must be a consideration of divorce proceedings. Do not eliminate no fault, just consider the infidelity and its cause in that particular relationship. I remember reading a case where witholding martital relations was intentional cruelty. (she was pushing for him to have an affair to better her position) Choices by both parties should have consequences.

WRONG! No fault divorce is the root of most of these evils.

Marriage is meant to be forever. As such divorce should only be granted when adultery can be proven or when physical abuse can be proven to a jury. The member guilty of abuse or adultery loses everything. The children, home, assets and support go to the true spouse.

If we raise the penalty for abuse or adultery to a exceedingly painful level, then people will work to maintain their marriages rather than deserting them.

Right now marriage is a racket for the enrichment of evil women and divorce lawyers. This insanity must end.

I do agree that marriage should be greatly encouraged but divorce must be just as greatly discouraged.

God Save America (Please)