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Nice to see FReepers commended for the early work on making this connection. Previous threads and my comments on giving equal credit to Free Republic gumshoes... linked here
1 posted on 06/15/2002 11:59:46 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
I heard people talking about it on Michael Savage a couple days ago.
2 posted on 06/15/2002 12:01:58 PM PDT by Commander8
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BTTT
3 posted on 06/15/2002 12:02:27 PM PDT by JulieRNR21
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4 posted on 06/15/2002 12:06:02 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton
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To: OKCSubmariner;glorygirl
fyi
5 posted on 06/15/2002 12:08:03 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: spycatcher; Registered
Where is Michael Rivero when you need him.................
7 posted on 06/15/2002 12:16:26 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
ping
9 posted on 06/15/2002 12:16:35 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: spycatcher
I love this. I really do. Because now we can stop all of the right wing did OKC Bombing crap...and start pinning to who financed it and was really behind it. When the first comparison came out on this...I said yep...there you have it. This is rich...VERY rich. Excellent work guys!
10 posted on 06/15/2002 12:17:02 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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Who is John Berger?

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11 posted on 06/15/2002 12:18:27 PM PDT by Lady Jag
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The answer will be simple to come by if the feds just tell us if Padilla was in jail during the OKC bombing.
13 posted on 06/15/2002 12:21:48 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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bump
19 posted on 06/15/2002 12:29:33 PM PDT by kimosabe31
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So how is the OKC bombing tied to Benevolence International? You're still missing one link.
23 posted on 06/15/2002 12:42:34 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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I noticed the OKBIC website also noticed a similarity.
25 posted on 06/15/2002 12:45:21 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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I have a confession to make. Jose Padilla cannot be John Doe #2, because ... I am John Doe #2!
30 posted on 06/15/2002 12:51:56 PM PDT by mrustow
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Here is another very interesting ping!
34 posted on 06/15/2002 12:56:37 PM PDT by SpottedBeaver
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To: spycatcher
I don't see solid linkage here. Color me skeptical.
37 posted on 06/15/2002 1:00:21 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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For the curious & inquisitive-- here's what we have on the Oklahoma City Bombing...click the "OKCbombing" link to see it:

To find all articles tagged or indexed using OKCbombing, click below:
  click here >>> OKCbombing <<< click here  
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spycatcher, I mass emailed this to "the usual suspects"- let's see if we draw some traffic from it.

47 posted on 06/15/2002 1:13:45 PM PDT by backhoe
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Benevelonce International Foundation is/was located in Palos Hills, Illinois. 3/4 of a mile where I went to High school, and 1 mile from where my own mother lives.

Palos Hills is rapidly becoming known as "little palestine" as Palestinians have purchased up almost an entire townhome development, named "The Riveria" in Palos Hills.

Palos Hills is located near Bridgeview, IL home of the Chicago Area's largest Mosqaue and largest Muzzie population, and less than 10 minutes away from Burbank IL the area's second largest Muzzie population.

I am FAR from surprised that the link between Padilla and BIF has been made. What I *am* surprised at, is that many, MANY more links haven't been made. The extremist muzzies were in the Mosque in Bridgeview, IL *celebrating* the night of Sept. 11th.

Chicago Area Freepers may well recall the TV reports of protesters outside the Mosque, and Bridgeview police (gestapo) threatening to arrest ANYONE who was non-Arabic looking that got within 2 blocks of that mosque.

Deport 'em all!

51 posted on 06/15/2002 1:19:41 PM PDT by usconservative
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In addition to Padilla being a dead ringer for John Doe #2, there are two parts of the typical radical Islamist MO that are present in the Oklahoma City bombing:

(1) A bomb set off amongst a crowd of civilians (whether in a car/truck or strapped to a fool convinced to commit suicide) has long been the preferred method of mass murder among the radical Islamists. They don't have the guts or honor to get out in the open, form an army, and fight like real men. They hide in the shadows and use mostly zealots and/or weak-minded proxies to do their killing for them. When they can, they get the fool to commit suicide (gets rid of the direct link back to the attack planner).

(2) The radical Islamist perp usually (but not always) commits suicide. Something — Waco or something before — turned McVeigh from a decorated soldier to a mass killer, but it wasn't something he was originally willing to die for since he ran from OKC. Although that part of the OKC MO is different from the typical Islamist bombing MO, not all Islamist bombers blow themselves up (as in the Pakistan/U.S. embassy bombing a couple of days ago). However, when caught, McVeigh showed every sign of being a zealot. No spilling the beans on other conspirators. No trying to cut a deal to turn over others to save his life. No remorse. And he WANTED the death penalty. Even instructed his lawyers not to appeal. In other words, in every way except going out in the bomb blast or pulling a trigger on himself, he committed suicide.

54 posted on 06/15/2002 1:27:59 PM PDT by Wolfstar
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FYI

UNE 15, 14:52 ET

Man Linked to Suspect Group Arrested

By RACHEL LA CORTE

Associated Press Writer

MIAMI (AP) — A man linked to an organization under investigation for terrorist ties was arrested in Florida on an alleged immigration violation, officials said Saturday.

Adham A. Hassoun, 40, was arrested Wednesday and was being held at Krome Detention Center, INS spokesman Rodney Germain said. He declined to provide further details on the investigation.

State records show Hassoun was listed as the Florida registered agent of Chicago-based Benevolence International Foundation, which in April was charged in federal court in Chicago with funding al-Qaida terrorists. The foundation describes itself as an international charity organization benefiting refugees and children.

Hassoun's arrest came the same week the Justice Department announced the May 8 arrest in Chicago of Jose Padilla, also known as Abdullah al Muhajir, an American accused of conspiring to explode a radiological device in the United States.

The Miami Herald and South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported Saturday that Padilla and Hassoun were acquaintances and attended the same Fort Lauderdale mosque, Al-Iman.

A message left at the mosque was not immediately returned Saturday, and no one answered the door at Hassoun's home in Sunrise.

A woman across the street who said she was Hassoun's sister said she was told her brother was arrested on an overdue student visa. ``He has done nothing,'' she said. The woman would not give her name.

In November, Hassoun told The Herald that he briefly served as North American distributor for the Call of Islam magazine published by the Islamic Youth Movement, which advocates jihad and trains youngsters in guerrilla warfare. The magazine has featured exclusive interviews with al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden.

Hassoun told The Herald he had no active role in the organization and that the FBI had interviewed him several times after agents spotted his name on the Islamic Youth Movement Web site.

``They know I'm clean,'' he said.

The former iman at the mosque, Raed Awad, was the chief Florida fund-raiser for the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, which the government shut down in December, charging that the group funded the militant Palestinian group Hamas. The organization denies the charges.

Awad left Al-Iman about two years ago and is now living in Alabama. His home number rang unanswered Saturday.

55 posted on 06/15/2002 1:28:49 PM PDT by Donald Stone
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*ping*
56 posted on 06/15/2002 1:33:17 PM PDT by kayak
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