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Jose Padilla as John Doe #2 theory gains as ties to Benevolence International are uncovered
CNN via whoisjohndoe2.com ^ | June 15, 2002 | John Berger

Posted on 06/15/2002 11:59:45 AM PDT by spycatcher

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BREAKING NEWS: Padilla Associate Nabbed By Feds In Florida, Had Ties To Benevolence International Foundation

If you've plodded through the Padiila-BIF-Terry Nichols stories (listed below) patiently, wading through the tedious speculation, wishing a real connection would emerge, well, your wait has ended! The feds have nabbed the missing link between the Benevolence International Foundation and Jose Padilla!

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CNN - Feds arrest man linked to 'dirty bomb' suspect


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bif; dirtybombplot; jd2; okcbombing; padilla; terrorists
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To: CIBvet
Next thing you know you'll be wanting to ask GW a bunch of tough questions about all those Fundamentalist wacko women and children the Feds and military viciously gassed and incinerated down in Waco, WHILE HE SAT IN THE GOVERNORS MANSION JUST DOWN THE ROAD, MUTE..

Sorry but GWB was NOT the gov of Texas in 1993. It was a Dem named Ann Richards who permitted the Feds to use National Guard tanks in violation of Posse Comitatus by falsifying a drug connection that wasn't.

41 posted on 06/15/2002 1:05:47 PM PDT by Mike4Freedom
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To: spycatcher
If only it would bring down the Clinton/Clinton organization. Kennedy thought he would never be caught.

It's good to see Furhman is a better investigator than an expert witness.

42 posted on 06/15/2002 1:06:17 PM PDT by swheats
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To: VA Advogado; rwfromkansas
From the links on whoisjohndoe2:

"The second BIF/Chicago connection concerns Wali Khan Amid Shah, alleged to be a "key participant" in a Philippines-based plot to bomb 12 U.S. airliners in 1994, among other plots. What's interested about Wali Khan is that, in addition to BIF links outlined in the court filings, he was also rumored to have met with Terry Nichols, who with Timothy McVeigh was convicted of having committed the OK bombing. This theory is proposed and expounded at length in what sounds like a rousingly paranoid literary outing called Others Unknown: Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City Bombing Conspiracy."

Notice the book though is well-written not by a paranoid, but Timothy McVeigh's lawyer

43 posted on 06/15/2002 1:08:39 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: Fred Mertz
see above post
44 posted on 06/15/2002 1:09:50 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: no one in particular
How did it come to pass that "white supremisist" Timothy McVeigh had a Fillipina wife?

Hint: Lots of Møøse Limbs in the Philipines)...

45 posted on 06/15/2002 1:10:48 PM PDT by null and void
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To: spycatcher;all
For the curious & inquisitive-- here's what we have on the Oklahoma City Bombing...click the "OKCbombing" link to see it:

To find all articles tagged or indexed using OKCbombing, click below:
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(To view all FR Bump Lists, click here)


spycatcher, I mass emailed this to "the usual suspects"- let's see if we draw some traffic from it.

47 posted on 06/15/2002 1:13:45 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Husker24
>>>The only flaw in this is that if I remember correctly John Doe #2 was described as a white guy.<<<

My recollection is that he was described (at the time of the OKC bombing) as a darker skinned, swarthy individual of either hispanic or middle eastern appearance.

Not making any bets as to which of us is right on this one - but my recollection is pretty strong.

Anyone else out there remember how it came down then?

48 posted on 06/15/2002 1:14:56 PM PDT by HardStarboard
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To: CIBvet
Next thing you know you'll be wanting to ask GW a bunch of tough questions about all those Fundamentalist wacko women and children the Feds and military viciously gassed and incinerated down in Waco, WHILE HE SAT IN THE GOVERNORS MANSION JUST DOWN THE ROAD, MUTE..

Your facts are a bit skewed. The Waco event happened April, 1993. Ann Richards (Dem) was Governor of Texas. GW Bush was not elected governor until November 1994.
49 posted on 06/15/2002 1:16:48 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: null and void
I think the Fillipina was a "mail order bride" of Nichols not McVeigh. Notice that all his strange trips to the Phillipines after getting married *didn't* include his wife.
50 posted on 06/15/2002 1:17:20 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
Benevelonce International Foundation is/was located in Palos Hills, Illinois. 3/4 of a mile where I went to High school, and 1 mile from where my own mother lives.

Palos Hills is rapidly becoming known as "little palestine" as Palestinians have purchased up almost an entire townhome development, named "The Riveria" in Palos Hills.

Palos Hills is located near Bridgeview, IL home of the Chicago Area's largest Mosqaue and largest Muzzie population, and less than 10 minutes away from Burbank IL the area's second largest Muzzie population.

I am FAR from surprised that the link between Padilla and BIF has been made. What I *am* surprised at, is that many, MANY more links haven't been made. The extremist muzzies were in the Mosque in Bridgeview, IL *celebrating* the night of Sept. 11th.

Chicago Area Freepers may well recall the TV reports of protesters outside the Mosque, and Bridgeview police (gestapo) threatening to arrest ANYONE who was non-Arabic looking that got within 2 blocks of that mosque.

Deport 'em all!

51 posted on 06/15/2002 1:19:41 PM PDT by usconservative
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To: spycatcher
What's interested about Wali Khan is that, in addition to BIF links outlined in the court filings, he was also rumored to have met with Terry Nichols, who with Timothy McVeigh was convicted of having committed the OK bombing.

Rumored? Thats terribly weak.

52 posted on 06/15/2002 1:20:35 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: spycatcher
I saw that passage. I should have been clearer. Based on the BIF alleged connection, I don't think that makes a solid case.

On the other hand, I think it is possible that Padilla could be JD#2 based on the sketch and the blank spaces in Padilla's whereabouts from about 1994 through 1996.

53 posted on 06/15/2002 1:23:52 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: spycatcher
In addition to Padilla being a dead ringer for John Doe #2, there are two parts of the typical radical Islamist MO that are present in the Oklahoma City bombing:

(1) A bomb set off amongst a crowd of civilians (whether in a car/truck or strapped to a fool convinced to commit suicide) has long been the preferred method of mass murder among the radical Islamists. They don't have the guts or honor to get out in the open, form an army, and fight like real men. They hide in the shadows and use mostly zealots and/or weak-minded proxies to do their killing for them. When they can, they get the fool to commit suicide (gets rid of the direct link back to the attack planner).

(2) The radical Islamist perp usually (but not always) commits suicide. Something — Waco or something before — turned McVeigh from a decorated soldier to a mass killer, but it wasn't something he was originally willing to die for since he ran from OKC. Although that part of the OKC MO is different from the typical Islamist bombing MO, not all Islamist bombers blow themselves up (as in the Pakistan/U.S. embassy bombing a couple of days ago). However, when caught, McVeigh showed every sign of being a zealot. No spilling the beans on other conspirators. No trying to cut a deal to turn over others to save his life. No remorse. And he WANTED the death penalty. Even instructed his lawyers not to appeal. In other words, in every way except going out in the bomb blast or pulling a trigger on himself, he committed suicide.

54 posted on 06/15/2002 1:27:59 PM PDT by Wolfstar
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To: spycatcher;okc submariner
FYI

UNE 15, 14:52 ET

Man Linked to Suspect Group Arrested

By RACHEL LA CORTE

Associated Press Writer

MIAMI (AP) — A man linked to an organization under investigation for terrorist ties was arrested in Florida on an alleged immigration violation, officials said Saturday.

Adham A. Hassoun, 40, was arrested Wednesday and was being held at Krome Detention Center, INS spokesman Rodney Germain said. He declined to provide further details on the investigation.

State records show Hassoun was listed as the Florida registered agent of Chicago-based Benevolence International Foundation, which in April was charged in federal court in Chicago with funding al-Qaida terrorists. The foundation describes itself as an international charity organization benefiting refugees and children.

Hassoun's arrest came the same week the Justice Department announced the May 8 arrest in Chicago of Jose Padilla, also known as Abdullah al Muhajir, an American accused of conspiring to explode a radiological device in the United States.

The Miami Herald and South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported Saturday that Padilla and Hassoun were acquaintances and attended the same Fort Lauderdale mosque, Al-Iman.

A message left at the mosque was not immediately returned Saturday, and no one answered the door at Hassoun's home in Sunrise.

A woman across the street who said she was Hassoun's sister said she was told her brother was arrested on an overdue student visa. ``He has done nothing,'' she said. The woman would not give her name.

In November, Hassoun told The Herald that he briefly served as North American distributor for the Call of Islam magazine published by the Islamic Youth Movement, which advocates jihad and trains youngsters in guerrilla warfare. The magazine has featured exclusive interviews with al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden.

Hassoun told The Herald he had no active role in the organization and that the FBI had interviewed him several times after agents spotted his name on the Islamic Youth Movement Web site.

``They know I'm clean,'' he said.

The former iman at the mosque, Raed Awad, was the chief Florida fund-raiser for the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, which the government shut down in December, charging that the group funded the militant Palestinian group Hamas. The organization denies the charges.

Awad left Al-Iman about two years ago and is now living in Alabama. His home number rang unanswered Saturday.

55 posted on 06/15/2002 1:28:49 PM PDT by Donald Stone
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To: Miss Marple
*ping*
56 posted on 06/15/2002 1:33:17 PM PDT by kayak
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To: null and void
How did it come to pass that "white supremisist" Timothy McVeigh had a Fillipina wife? "

Timothy was only a white supremisist during the day, at night..........

57 posted on 06/15/2002 1:41:19 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Lockbox
McVeigh was never married. "The Farmer" (Nichols) was a few times. One of his earlier wives had the last name Padilla.
58 posted on 06/15/2002 1:46:05 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
One of his earlier wives had the last name Padilla.

It's a fairly common last name, but in this context it does give one pause...

59 posted on 06/15/2002 1:49:26 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Arkinsaw
Hey ya'll I'm a star!!!

LOL!!!

They've got my thread linked to their website, lower right on the bottom of the page.

And to think... my 11th grade english teacher said I wouldn't amount to nothing!

TMMT

60 posted on 06/15/2002 1:50:16 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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