Posted on 04/24/2002 10:48:34 AM PDT by america-rules
Not really. I look at it as a "wedge" issue. Oftentimes, as was the case with me, all it takes is one wedge to eventually open the door.
A little off topic, but in the same vein as your point, a severe wedge issue for American blacks is school vouchers. We know that the RATS are fighting tooth and nail to prevent this from ever becoming a reality. But, just provide that wedge. That's all. You'd be surprised.
It was worth repeating.
Are you aware that the Democrats are tied to the hip with those anti-war protesters in Washington, D.C.? That organization held a two hour and twelve minute rally on Saturday the 20th. Every single protester in that rally damned Israel. Let me tell you, those people were supporting the Palestinain cause on the West Bank. For the whole program they were chanting "we are Palestinian."
I am currently working up a a list of the people who allign themselves with Democrats. The are some of the most vile people on the planet. There are multiple common themes, prose, styles and tactics used by these groups.
Nut cases will alway exist, but I recognize in you the ability to dismiss the idiots and deal with those who have at least a few brains. That's to your credit. Don't be turned off by idiots. If you did, you'd be turned off by people from both sides, but almost everyone from the left.
I'll keep you in mind when I've documented the fellow travelers that I am working on. You'll be amazed.
You did touch on one subject that bothers me though. I want you to understand where I myself am coming from when I criticise blacks, hispanics or anyone else.
I was raised by my grandfather. The man was a very direct and frank individual. While he was frank and direct, you always knew where you stood with him. He was honest and fair. That's what I try to be. I don't run from issues. I don't cage my comments. But I try not to be unfair or racist. I don't hold any race in contempt. I do have major problems with some things members of them do. But I also have major problems with things my own race does. When it comes to anti-Semitism, I right there with you.
You take care.
Most definitely. Just remember that they're not the majority voice.
The point is that, as perverted the Left is, this does not happen among Democrats.
This is where we very much disagree. It's just that the media doesn't focus on the bigotry when done by Dems.
Jewish attachment for the Left pre-dates FDR. At the beginning of the Russian Revolution Trotsky found quite a few people on Manhatten's Lower East Side to go over and help. David Horowitz's "Radical Son" has some interesting background data
But, in any event, Socialism is having less and less attraction for the latest generation, as you've noted.
I hope that this is the case. But I tell you what. I make the request that those who espouse bigoted and/or racist views among us be hammered without mercy.
There is absolutely no upside to allowing this sort of thing to go on unchecked.
What is the point of that? If you are a minority, having learned to live some threats, you are not scared of the bigoted few: you are scared when the majority does nothing about those bigots.
I am not telling you that an average Black, Jew, or Gypsy has studied the Holocaust and came to this conclusion. What I am saying is that, even a person with the least education, feels that in his veins. You can fight back against a few, or you can try to run away. But there is nothing you can do when you are beaten by a few while surrounded by a silent crowd.
This may explain the eternal puzzle of the Republican Party. The slaves were liberated under Lincoln. The Affirmative Action was signed into law by Nixon. Does average Black today knows or even cares to know about that? Not at all.
On the other hand, it was the wealthy Southern Democrats who have enslaved the Blacks in the first place and refused to reform their racist views for quite some time. My blood boils when I think of Senator Byrd. Not only he was a member of the KKK, he has a physical revulsion towards Blacks: he said, to wit, that "he would not sit in the same car with one." Today, he is one of the most respected senators, praised for his expertise in the procedural aspects of Congress. There is no question that you are correct: there are bigots among them as well. What is the difference: the expressions of bigotry are suppressed. This allows Black, Jews, and Hispanics to function within that party without loosing dignity, towards common goals.
Compare and contrast this with our movement. Just wonder into this forum, and you will find plenty of the old hatred, expressed with old methods, based on old false accusations. It is on this board that you get the posts about B. Franklin warning America about "the Jews," and even the "Elders of Zion" --- perhaps the most well-known, completely debunked fabrication. Of course, much of the prejudice is masked by "I am America-first," as if any of us is not. But within a few lines the falsehood is clear: why is that he boils when thinking about our aid to Israel, yet says not a word about a much greater aid to Europe, which we continuing to give despite the end of the Cold War? And this is not just about Jews, of course: you see the same with regard to Hispanics. Under the pretense of being America-first, someone would be adamant about closing "the border." It turns out "the border" is only one half of it: with Mexico. Why is he not bothered by the porous border with Canada ---- even after you point out to him that it is thought that border that most criminals infiltrate? The answer is, he is not "America first:" he dislikes Jews and Hispanics, and merely find that umbrella convenient: this umbrella confuses other conservatives because the bigot sounds reasonable.
Well, when you are beaten, your skin get to be more sensitive. The minorities who consider leaving the Dems hear quite well all these remarks; they are not confused: they know a bigot when they see one.
Do not get me wrong: I am optimistic. Just witness the voting statistics: of all Jews under 30, 61%voted for Bush in the last election. Witness the many people on this board who are Jewish, Hispanic, and Black. We make progress, a great deal of progress. The point I am making --- the point in which I am convinced -- is that for every minority we win over we loose ten to the Democrats because of the expressions of bigotry that we allow in our midst.
This is America: bigots have the right to speak. But a movement or a party does not have to allow that in its midst. I repeat my position: bigots among us defeat the cause of the conservative movement.
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