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B-1 BOMBER LOST IN THE INDIAN OCEAN!!
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Posted on 12/12/2001 9:01:33 AM PST by Walkin Man

BREAKING ON TV!!


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: b1; usaf
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To: Walkin Man
Related Article: Crew Rescued After U.S. Bomber Crash
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161 posted on 12/12/2001 12:29:19 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Heisenburger
B-1 uses nap-of-the-earth flight. Perhaps they got to close to the waves.

Only when avoiding enemy defenses, and then mostly missle defenses. I doubt they used the terrain following at all against the Taliwackers. They certainly wouldn't be using it over the ocean, unless approaching a hostile coast. You burn alot more fuel at low altitude. In this case they were only 30 miles or so out from Diego Garcia, don't yet know if coming or going.

162 posted on 12/12/2001 12:33:59 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Walkin Man
I just wanted to throw out a little tid-bit that is a good indicator of the type of people we are dealing with over at DU. I was just over there looking around, and I saw their post on the downed B-1. In stark contrast to the concern and well-wishes for the safety of the crew that we saw here at FR, there were only SEVEN responses to the post. I guess they're too busy discussing their theories of how W planned and carried out the WTC attacks himself to care about the safety and well being of our soldiers.
163 posted on 12/12/2001 12:37:19 PM PST by amarsh
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To: SamAdams76
I could probably walk out my front door and get killed by a falling icicle tomorrow morning.

Let me see, oh yeah, you are saying you live in an evironment where icicles could be considered a threat to your life.

Probably somewhere North of the Equator I would guess!

164 posted on 12/12/2001 12:42:30 PM PST by VOYAGER
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To: ken5050
Anyone here post any info about ejection mechanisms for the plane?

It has ejection seats, four. If they are carrying an extra crewman or two, for which they have "jump" seats, those have no ejection seats. In this case four ejection seats, four crew, all safe. Thanks to the seat manufacturer.

165 posted on 12/12/2001 12:45:30 PM PST by El Gato
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
but I would be surprised if they didn't stay with it trying to save her. Crap.

Not such much point in staying with the A/C over water and relatively close to base. They may have stayed for awhile, but in end they punched and thankfully all are OK.

166 posted on 12/12/2001 12:47:45 PM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato
I agree. I just know how those guys love that bird.
167 posted on 12/12/2001 12:49:54 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Walkin Man
After all the seats are a rocket!

Which is a definite improvement over the "old days" when they were an artillery shell. Lots less back problems after ejection these days. Rockets give a very firm shove, but the old ones were more like getting hit in the a$$ with a sledge hammer, wielded by Paul Bunyun or the Jolly Green Giant.

168 posted on 12/12/2001 1:06:16 PM PST by El Gato
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To: TankerKC
C-130 Crew Chief, But I'm surrounded by B-1 geeks here at Dyess AFB
169 posted on 12/12/2001 1:09:54 PM PST by MSgt Smith
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To: AndrewC
We lose more than 40,000 people/year to auto accidents.

I believe the Federal Highway Administration rejects that figure as being an acceptable number of deaths and are working toward reducing that carnage.

How? I would guess since most drivers are not trained beyond their experience so the improvement would have to come in a manner that would be beyond the control of the individual driver.

Life saving technolog; ie, much like the airbag, the seat belt, these two ancient lifesavers, recent as they are, are not enough so we press on to other technologies that will force us to live a little longer or die by "an icicle falling on our head".
Or something less violent.(A modicum of jocularity there, See Reply #99)

170 posted on 12/12/2001 1:14:16 PM PST by VOYAGER
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Right now, lets not point fingers, but support our commrades in arms?

Evidently my WWII service whatever it was, wasn't impressive enough to keep me from getting called down.

Thanks for your insightful post anyway!!(I mean that.)

171 posted on 12/12/2001 1:24:05 PM PST by VOYAGER
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To: capitan_refugio
Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to the Secret Protocols

you are wrong, or rather slightly mistaken.

As a general rule the protocols do in fact govern the execution of policy related to international conspiracies however sanction by THE INNER CIRCLE is the essential mandate necessary for implementation.

172 posted on 12/12/2001 1:34:00 PM PST by THEUPMAN
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To: Jerry_M
I would guess that you have never served in the military or around complicated equipment.

Whoops!! You guessed wrong Jerry_M!!

Try again!

The Navy did away with sails on their ships a couple of years before I enlisted and our propulsion system was a little more complicated than oars too.

Thanks for your reply #75.

173 posted on 12/12/2001 1:36:57 PM PST by VOYAGER
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To: VOYAGER
Attention all Vets and Vets supporters. There is an issue here that I hope we can get to the bottom of.

It all started with a post by VOYAGER, post #57. I responded with post #80. Just so ya know the history.

I just rec'd this response back from you VOYAGER:

"Evidently my WWII service whatever it was, wasn't impressive enough to keep me from getting called down.

Thanks for your insightful post anyway!!(I mean that.)

TO ALL...I really want to address this to some of my friends who I KNOW care deeply for Vets and publicly if you will allow me. But especially to VOYAGER.

((((((VOYAGER))))) (Thats a cyber hug, best I can offer under these circumstances).

I just want you to know that I realize that your post #57 was based on emotion and love for our troops. That you of all people care deeply for our servicemen and women. Maybe even more because of what you saw first hand. Over 240,000 people (forgive me for being incorrect on the exact number,.. but I know it was over that amount) died during WWII. I cannot imagine what you saw first hand. I cannot THANK YOU ENOUGH for your service.

It is so important to me, that you know that.

I just want you to know, that not all people read your biography before responding. Maybe if they had, they too would have understood a little better where you were coming from. From caring deeply and ***firsthand*** for our troops!!!

I just want you to know, that I never doubted your intentions. I knew it was because you love them, that you wrote a reply. I also need to remind all that we cannot see facial expressions, or hear tone inflections when reading a post. If we could..there would be far fewer misperceptions here.

But dog gone it VOYAGER... you weren't called down!!! NO WAY!!! People like me even,..just reacted emotionally too. Your a hero.. your a "beloved" vet here.

I want you to know Vet to Vet.. that I honor you, and SALUTE you.

God Bless, and PLEASE know how much we appreciate our WWII Vets.

Mary Ann and Art

174 posted on 12/12/2001 2:50:48 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: VOYAGER; Bush_Democrat; Tree of Liberty; Jerry_M; Paradox; MSgt Smith; AndrewC; Walkin Man...
Attention all Vets and Vets supporters. There is an issue here that I hope we can get to the bottom of.

It all started with a post by VOYAGER, post #57. I responded with post #80. Just so ya know the history.

I just rec'd this response back from you VOYAGER:

"Evidently my WWII service whatever it was, wasn't impressive enough to keep me from getting called down.

Thanks for your insightful post anyway!!(I mean that.)

TO ALL...I really want to address this to some of my friends who I KNOW care deeply for Vets and publicly if you will allow me. But especially to VOYAGER.

((((((VOYAGER))))) (Thats a cyber hug, best I can offer under these circumstances).

I just want you to know that I realize that your post #57 was based on emotion and love for our troops. That you of all people care deeply for our servicemen and women. Maybe even more because of what you saw first hand. Over 240,000 people (forgive me for being incorrect on the exact number,.. but I know it was over that amount) died during WWII. I cannot imagine what you saw first hand. I cannot THANK YOU ENOUGH for your service.

It is so important to me, that you know that.

I just want you to know, that not all people read your biography before responding. Maybe if they had, they too would have understood a little better where you were coming from. From caring deeply and ***firsthand*** for our troops!!!

I just want you to know, that I never doubted your intentions. I knew it was because you love them, that you wrote a reply. I also need to remind all that we cannot see facial expressions, or hear tone inflections when reading a post. If we could..there would be far fewer misperceptions here.

But dog gone it VOYAGER... you weren't called down!!! NO WAY!!! People like me even,..just reacted emotionally too. Your a hero.. your a "beloved" vet here.

I want you to know Vet to Vet.. that I honor you, and SALUTE you.

God Bless, and PLEASE know how much we appreciate our WWII Vets.

Mary Ann and Art

175 posted on 12/12/2001 2:51:10 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
God Bless, and PLEASE know how much we appreciate our WWII Vets.

If we don't appreciate ALL vets, we might not have anyone to volunteer to be a vet in the future!

Met a Red Star photographer who travelled all the way from Stalingrad to Berlin with Zokov. Just an ordinary grunt with a rifle and a camera, but a very well revered man in the Ukraine.

176 posted on 12/12/2001 2:59:44 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: Walkin Man
The B1 has ejection seats rather than an ejection capsule as the F-111 does. http://www.aeronautics.ru/b1b.htm
177 posted on 12/12/2001 3:01:32 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: MindBender26
If we don't appreciate ALL vets, we might not have anyone to volunteer to be a vet in the future!

Agreed. But my post was because a fellow Vet felt he got slammed down. I wanted to assure him how much we appreciated him. Your point is extremely valid and well taken. I just needed for us to validate our appreciation to VOYAGER. I think he was feeling attacked. Just want to qaulify my post about VOYAGER... I always support our troops :o) ALL OF THEM. But I sure don't want EVEN ONE to think we don't!!

Bless your Ukraine friend!! FRegards!!

178 posted on 12/12/2001 3:10:19 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: VOYAGER
Sir, I don't think you were being called down at all. We were all simply anxious and very concerned that we might have lost more of our men-at-arms. I'm only 24 and have fortunatly never experienced the horrors of the battlefield, and I pray that I never do. You will always have my respect and thanks for your service in defense of our republic.
179 posted on 12/12/2001 4:19:54 PM PST by Tree of Liberty
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To: NorCoGOP
Isn't this something my friend.WOW !!!!!!!

I only called Hugh Hewitt one time.I want to call again but this week is impossible for me.

RonDog might know better since he is the one that helped me know how to call that one time. I LOVED your call to Hewitt.Fantastic!!!!!

(((( HUG ))))

To have one of the ships you sent to is so fantastic.

180 posted on 12/12/2001 4:27:05 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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