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The Christian right is coming for divorce next
Vox ^ | June 13, 2024 | Anna North

Posted on 06/18/2024 3:47:07 AM PDT by fwdude

Before the 1960s, it was really hard to get divorced in America.

Typically, the only way to do it was to convince a judge that your spouse had committed some form of wrongdoing, like adultery, abandonment, or “cruelty” (that is, abuse). This could be difficult: “Even if you could prove you had been hit, that didn’t necessarily mean it rose to the level of cruelty that justified a divorce,” said Marcia Zug, a family law professor at the University of South Carolina.

Then came a revolution: In 1969, then-Gov. Ronald Reagan of California (who was himself divorced) signed the nation’s first no-fault divorce law, allowing people to end their marriages without proving they’d been wronged. The move was a recognition that “people were going to get out of marriages,” Zug said, and gave them a way to do that without resorting to subterfuge. Similar laws soon swept the country, and rates of domestic violence and spousal murder began to drop as people — especially women — gained more freedom to leave dangerous situations.

Today, … a counter-revolution is brewing: Conservative commentators and lawmakers are calling for an end to no-fault divorce, arguing that it has harmed men and even destroyed the fabric of society.

(Excerpt) Read more at vox.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: demnarrative; demonicrats; divorce; narrative
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To: AbolishCSEU

In cases of adultery or cruelty, “no fault” allows a quick and less expensive divorce without the need to share all the personal details in court.


21 posted on 06/18/2024 4:42:13 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

This


22 posted on 06/18/2024 4:44:08 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: DoodleBob

God invented divorce. It is in the Bible. The reason for divorce is so the spouses don’t kill each other. I say this as a former divorce lawyer.


23 posted on 06/18/2024 4:46:12 AM PDT by yldstrk ( )
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To: AbolishCSEU

Doesn’t always work.

I am very sorry you had to go through all that, especially the DV.

In my case, my first wife and I dated for 5 years before tying the knot. Then it took a while (not too long) before it became a living hell.

I was dumb.


24 posted on 06/18/2024 4:50:15 AM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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To: AbolishCSEU
"People need to choose spouses better right from the start."

That is a wise idea. Knowing human nature "the heart wants" and the confusion of love/lust, I think it is easier said than done.

25 posted on 06/18/2024 5:03:17 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (The South will be in the right in the next war of Northern aggression.)
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To: escapefromboston

Don’t tell the lefty’s that. it would remove their simpleton narrative


26 posted on 06/18/2024 5:05:19 AM PDT by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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To: Rockingham
If you have a prenup you don’t even need a “marriage.” The prenup IS the marriage.

See my prior comment on this thread.

27 posted on 06/18/2024 5:09:45 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Ain't it funny how the night moves … when you just don't seem to have as much to lose.”)
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To: fwdude

Divorce has destroyed our family. While my wife and I are still married after 33 years, many others have divorced. The consequences to any form of ‘strong family’ are severe. Groups not talking to each other, never seeing each other. CHILDREN that don’t see their parents or extended family. GRANDPARENTS that rarely see any of their grandkids.

Mostly initiated by women - without abuse, addiction, or money troubles. The reasons are purely selfish...after the ‘romantic lie’ of ‘until death’. Clearly your vows mean absolutely nothing.


28 posted on 06/18/2024 5:10:39 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: fwdude

This is not about marriage. It’s about divorce. The good old days of allowing only mutually-agreed divorces fostered situations like my parents’ where men imprisoned their wives in institutions until they agreed to divorce. There is nothing Christian about returning to that system.


29 posted on 06/18/2024 5:12:38 AM PDT by nagant
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To: yldstrk

👍


30 posted on 06/18/2024 5:12:51 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (" Life is hard!" Tom Brady)
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To: fwdude

The only winners in divorce are the attorneys....


31 posted on 06/18/2024 5:15:02 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Petrosius

“do not trick your spouse into thinking that you are agreeing to a lifelong commitment.”

And do not trick your spouse into believing that you’re not an abusive monster, or philanderer.


32 posted on 06/18/2024 5:15:57 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Navarro didn't kill himself.)
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To: Clutch Martin
Marriage and divorce is too much of a money make...

You forgot to add, "for lawyers".

The 11 Commandment: "Thou shalt not touch Shylock's revenue stream". LOL!

33 posted on 06/18/2024 5:18:02 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: impimp

No.

Divorce is downstream from culture.


34 posted on 06/18/2024 5:18:31 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s² )
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To: fwdude

No…but the Left is coming for Christians.


35 posted on 06/18/2024 5:21:33 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (We have not yet achieved peak crazy)
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To: AbolishCSEU

I agree with your assessment of easy divorce ad I am also a female who has gone through a divorce in the past. Not only should women ( and men) not marry in haste but they should abstain from sexual intimacy until marriage. I would venture to say that early intimacy is often mistaken for “love” when it is, in reality, lust. That wears off and you are stuck with a person who shares very little of your vision for life.


36 posted on 06/18/2024 5:24:58 AM PDT by sueuprising (The best of it is, God is with us-John Wesley)
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To: nagant

And men were cheating constantly with most having mistresses.

You can’t go back to a history of once and never was.


37 posted on 06/18/2024 5:27:34 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: sueuprising

I am actually sympathetic to cultures where the parents arrange marriages

As a parent, I feel confident I could pick a far better partner for my children than most of them could.


38 posted on 06/18/2024 5:29:11 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: fwdude

Life is complicated. Sometimes divorce is the better choice.


39 posted on 06/18/2024 5:30:12 AM PDT by This I Wonder32460 (Choose wisely because the consequences of actions create either destruction or benevolences.)
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To: This I Wonder32460

Maybe, but I have personally never witnessed divorce improve anyone’s life even when I was certain it had to.

In every case people simply repeated all the same mistakes or worse, just with a different person.


40 posted on 06/18/2024 5:34:03 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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