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Math disaster in college: Would-be STEM majors can't add 1/2 + 1/3
Joanne Jacobs ^ | Sep 6, 2023 | Joanne Jacobs

Posted on 10/07/2023 3:40:59 AM PDT by george76

After a year of remote algebra, Diego Fonseca struggled with advanced algebra. Despite a week at George Mason University's Math Boot Camp, the would-be computer science major failed the math placement test to qualify for calculus four times. He didn't know the basics.

Across the country, more students are placing into pre-college math, reports AP's Collin Binkley. "At many universities, engineering and biology majors are struggling to grasp fractions and exponents."

At George Mason in Northern Virginia, fewer would-be STEM majors are getting into calculus and more are failing, he writes.

“We’re talking about college-level pre-calculus and calculus classes, and students cannot even add one-half and one-third,” said Maria Emelianenko, chair of George Mason’s math department.

At Temple, the number of students placed into intermediate algebra, the equivalent of ninth-grade math, has nearly doubled, writes Binkley. It's the lowest option for STEM majors.

In a softball quiz at the start of last year's fall semester, students were asked to subtract eight from negative six, recalls Jessica Babcock. “I graded a whole bunch of papers in a row. No two papers had the same answer, and none of them were correct.”

“It’s not just that they’re unprepared, they’re almost damaged,” said Brian Rider, Temple’s math chair. “I hate to use that term, but they’re so behind.”

Professors tried "expanded office hours, a new tutoring center, pared-down lessons focused on the essentials," writes Binkley. "But students didn’t come for help, and they kept getting D’s and F’s."

This year, Babcock hopes redesigning the algebra class to focus on "active learning" will help. "Class will be more of a group discussion, with lots of problems worked in-class."

George Mason also is offering active learning, and the option to take a slower-paced math class that takes two terms instead of one.

Fonseca failed the placement test four times, again placing in pre-calculus. He'd need at least one extra semester to catch up on math. He decided to start at community college instead. Using what he'd learned in boot camp, he placed into calculus.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: algebra; brooklyncollege; calculus; college; homeschooling; laurierubel; math; mathdisaster; mathematics; newyork; newyorkcity; stem; stemmajors; university
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To: Bounced2X

1980....Our professor said no calculators...and we used the slide rule. Said he wanted us to learn to anticipate what the answer should be +-


141 posted on 10/07/2023 10:52:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Bounced2X

Well, then your college was a little behind technology, I guess. I had just completed 8 years in the AF (68-76) and was on a TDY team that optimized communications links all the way from Iceland down through Europe and onto Greece and Turkey.

We were using HP35s for the testing and at the end were given HP45s.


142 posted on 10/07/2023 10:53:56 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: RoosterRedux

Concur


143 posted on 10/07/2023 12:00:52 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: coalminersson

+1


144 posted on 10/07/2023 12:06:00 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

hoping for a gold star


145 posted on 10/07/2023 12:11:44 PM PDT by coalminersson
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To: george76
Computer Science was conflated with Math because that was what the earliest computers were for but Computer Science and Math have been de-linking over the last two decades.

Logic, Language, Hierarchies, Cause and Effect, etc., are required for modern programming. Math is only for one subset of computer use.

146 posted on 10/07/2023 12:14:41 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: WinMod70
Does 5/6 mean somewhere between 5 and 6?

No, it means what portion of X do you get if you add half of X to 1/3 of X.

X could be a pound of sugar or a ton of gravel; what the instructor wants to know is whether the student can add fractions with different denominators.

147 posted on 10/07/2023 1:00:46 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Just adding to what you wrote... I read that colleges added the calculus requirement for Computer Science in the 1980s when CSC became a popular major because colleges wanted to limit the number of CSC students. One of my kids earned a CSC degree, and he did very well in math, but he’s said that, so far, he’s never needed calculus in his job.


148 posted on 10/07/2023 2:24:34 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Bounced2X
I have an old one that belonged to my father. I wish he'd shown me how to use it. It looks like this: image. Unfortunately, I've never been able to get the middle section to slide, and I don't want to push too hard for fear of breaking the ruler.
149 posted on 10/07/2023 2:41:37 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: george76
Meanwhile, the rest of the world is doing things like this.
150 posted on 10/07/2023 2:45:01 PM PDT by jmcenanly (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ― Winston)
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To: grundle

Was that a Yogi Berra quote?


151 posted on 10/07/2023 4:21:26 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: antidemoncrat

And they can name all of the Kardashians!


152 posted on 10/07/2023 4:23:16 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Rennes Templar
which is ironically what they are brining the students down to.

Apparently the spelling too.....

153 posted on 10/07/2023 4:28:10 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: P.O.E.
My Dad had a store,,,,I worked in it. I learned how to count back cash payments.

I am sure not very many folks can do that now,.,

154 posted on 10/07/2023 4:33:36 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I miss Rush)
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To: bgill

Exactly.


155 posted on 10/07/2023 4:39:40 PM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: george76

Bullsit. This is not possible.


156 posted on 10/07/2023 8:53:03 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Enrique Tarrio? “Remember the prisoners as if chained with them – those who are mistreated…” Hebrew)
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To: george76

It was not covid shutdown. It was the damaging math curriculum they have been taught for the past twenty years.

Even in Best of schools.


157 posted on 10/07/2023 9:10:46 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: Osage Orange

Grew up working in my Grandpa’s gas station. Besides counting change, learned to “face” the money so the bills were easy to differentiate. Drives me crazy even the banks don’t do that anymore.


158 posted on 10/07/2023 9:16:59 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: Graybeard58

4th grade math

Taught all my kids using g Saxon.

Son is only guy on the job who can figure out the umbers.

Have an accountant and a nurse in the mix


159 posted on 10/07/2023 9:18:09 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: P.O.E.

Counting change back dollars and change was easy...most people cannot do that anymore.............


160 posted on 10/07/2023 9:33:09 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I miss Rush)
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