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I Don't Think the House Fight Worked Out the Way Matt Gaetz Thought It Would
PJ Media ^ | 10/04/2023 | Paula Bolyard

Posted on 10/04/2023 8:43:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) successfully led a coup against now-former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy on Tuesday. He managed to eke out a “win” by rallying the entire Democratic caucus and eight Republicans to oust him. It’s the first time that has happened in U.S. history.

And it’s a total clown show.

Not only does it distract from the already tense budget negotiations, but it makes a laughingstock of the GOP—and the U.S.—and gives Democrats even more leverage to push through their radical policies.

Gaetz got a win, but at what cost? Sure, he’ll raise a lot of campaign money from this—he’s already sending out emails and asking for money on Fox News— but is there a plan going forward? Of course not. The two congressmen whose names have been bandied about as potential House speakers—Jim Jordan (Ohio) and Steve Scalise (La.)—both spoke on behalf of McCarthy ahead of the vote and then voted to keep him as speaker. McCarthy announced tonight that he will not seek reelection as speaker. Gaetz stated emphatically that he doesn’t want the job. At publishing time, Scalise had sort of thrown his hat into the ring, and some are floating Trump as the next speaker, but none of that will be sorted out quickly.

House Democrats and Republicans have been at a stalemate over budget negotiations. The continuing resolution will expire on Nov. 17. There will be another showdown and possible shutdown as the country races toward the proverbial fiscal cliff. Instead of working on that problem, Republicans will be squabbling over the speakership. How does that help the country?

Gaetz, whether intentionally or ignorantly, overplayed his hand. He’s being celebrated in some circles as the brave defender of all that’s good, but not everyone is on board.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Florida; US: Louisiana; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: california; congress; florida; jimjordan; kevinmccarthy; louisiana; mattgaetz; ohio; paulabolyard; rondesantis; speakership; stevescalise
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To: sarge83
I’m not upset at McCarthy’s ousting, but I am not sure anything is accomplished when we pretend he was the real problem here.

The bigger issue is that the 8 “far right” Republicans who led the move to oust him are outnumbered by the 18 Republicans representing districts Biden won in 2020. There’s no way to promote a unified agenda in this kind of environment.

61 posted on 10/04/2023 9:39:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: tennmountainman

YOU LEFT OUT:

NO BORDER WALL & TOO MANY INVADERS


62 posted on 10/04/2023 9:40:18 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: BobL

Except he did.


63 posted on 10/04/2023 9:42:26 AM PDT by newzjunkey (We need a better Trump than Trump in 2024)
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To: FreeReign

Who are McCarthy’s powerful donors? It took 15 ballots to get him elected Speaker. I guess the donors wete donoring somewhere else. And exactly how was an ousted McCarthy going to retaliate.? Take away a parking permit. Gaetz did the Dems a great service. Whoever the next Speaker is he/she will be aware this can happen to him and he needs Dem support to repel Gaetz if Gaetz decides to do it again. The price for the Dems staying out... oh how about shutting down the committee investigations into Biden(s).


64 posted on 10/04/2023 9:42:44 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: FreeReign

210 Rinos that voted for business as usual.

No wonder Trump had to fight so hard to get anything done.


65 posted on 10/04/2023 9:43:40 AM PDT by Bailee
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To: SeekAndFind

Continuing Resolutions for 3 DECADES is not “budget negotiations”.... It’s malfeasance.

Burn it all down (metaphorically speaking) and start over...


66 posted on 10/04/2023 9:44:43 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: delchiante

The fact that McCarthy allowed Pelosi to keep the Speaker’s office this whole time speaks volumes


67 posted on 10/04/2023 9:57:50 AM PDT by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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To: delchiante

The fact that McCarthy allowed Pelosi to keep the Speaker’s office this whole time speaks volumes


68 posted on 10/04/2023 9:57:52 AM PDT by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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To: delchiante

The fact that McCarthy allowed Pelosi to keep the Speaker’s office this whole time speaks volumes


69 posted on 10/04/2023 9:57:53 AM PDT by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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To: delchiante

The fact that McCarthy allowed Pelosi to keep the Speaker’s office this whole time speaks volumes


70 posted on 10/04/2023 9:57:56 AM PDT by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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To: delchiante

The fact that McCarthy allowed Pelosi to keep the Speaker’s office this whole time speaks volumes


71 posted on 10/04/2023 9:57:56 AM PDT by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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To: delchiante

The fact that McCarthy allowed Pelosi to keep the Speaker’s office this whole time speaks volumes


72 posted on 10/04/2023 9:57:58 AM PDT by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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To: Pollard

Well, for all intents and purposes, Pelosi was still the Speaker.


73 posted on 10/04/2023 9:58:50 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Really, you agree with Newt? So lying to get what you want is ok with you? I consider that to be democrat talk. In my opinion you should do some soule searching


74 posted on 10/04/2023 10:14:30 AM PDT by Ferndina
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe that question should be asked once the dust settles and all of McCarthy and McConnell’s side deals are brought to light.


75 posted on 10/04/2023 10:19:30 AM PDT by 100%FEDUP
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To: FarCenter

Dems will vote for Jeffries.


76 posted on 10/04/2023 10:19:43 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Trump took to Truth Social to berate Republicans for their disunity, writing, “Why is it that Republicans are always fighting among themselves, why aren’t they fighting the Radical Left Democrats who are destroying our Country?”

Am I the only one here that finds this comment of Trump’s a bit ironical .....considering how he has been “fighting against” certain Republicans and seemingly not caring about “unity” himself?

I loathe hypocrisy coming from the left... and when I see it coming from someone on our side... I hate it even more.


77 posted on 10/04/2023 10:19:47 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: Ferndina

I always liked Gingrich when he came up in the late seventies in suburban Atlanta.

One day I encountered a “Foreign Affairs,” the Council on Foreign Relations magazine, with a Gingrich written article in it. Guess who was a member. Old Newt is as establishment as one can get.


78 posted on 10/04/2023 10:22:53 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: SeekAndFind

This entire thing is just a clown show.

Yes McCArthy is out. Woo Hoo… but there no chance of replacing him with someone who isn’t an establishment Republican.

Maybe whoever replaces him will be a little less tone deaf and not think Nancy will have his back and listen to the far right of the members more but I don’t see any major win here.

I know some here thinks this is awesome and I have no love of McCArthy but do I think some radical shift has occurred politically because of this… no, not at all.


79 posted on 10/04/2023 10:24:02 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Pollard

Your comment was so good it came to me in bunches...

:)


80 posted on 10/04/2023 10:25:39 AM PDT by delchiante
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