Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Gun laws, abortion, taxes: Why Eastern Oregon is voting to join Idaho
nypost.com ^ | November 7, 2022 | Isabel Vincent

Posted on 11/07/2022 2:08:06 PM PST by lowbridge

Republican voters in Eastern and Central Oregon are so fed up with liberal lawmakers that they want to break rank — and state lines — and become part of Idaho.

On Tuesday, two Oregon counties, Morrow and Wheeler, are set to vote on a ballot measure about whether to explore leaving the state. Since 2020, nine counties in Eastern Oregon have already voted to join the Greater Idaho movement.

“People in Eastern Oregon are just different and have different views on crime, the Second Amendment, abortion, taxes and minimum wage [from the western portion of the state],” Matt McCaw, spokesman for Greater Idaho, told The Post. “The polarization with the western part of the state is real. When I meet with people and host meetings, there are a lot of complaints about the lack of representation. Eastern Oregon is just very conservative and has its own culture.

”So he and a group of fellow disgruntled Oregonians in the small city of La Pine began to hash out a plan to secede because they no longer felt represented by the liberal lawmakers in the state capital, Salem. The solution: Join Idaho, where the Republican Party is firmly in control.

“Eastern Oregon, where we all live, could get state-level government from Idaho that matches their values,” McCaw said.

It’s a radical proposition that would see nearly two-thirds of Oregon’s 63 million acres (98,000 square miles), but less than 10% of its population, blend into neighboring Idaho.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Idaho; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: antifa; idaho; oregon
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

1 posted on 11/07/2022 2:08:06 PM PST by lowbridge
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: lowbridge

Liberals view conservatives as a tax base and nothing else. They are democracy at its worst. They will not let eastern Oregon go and couldn’t care less.


2 posted on 11/07/2022 2:19:29 PM PST by Dennis M.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lowbridge

What does Idaho say about this? Has anyone asked?


3 posted on 11/07/2022 2:23:36 PM PST by Veto! (FJB sucks rocks)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lowbridge

I wish Eastern Washington would vote to do this too (I live in Western WA).

There are 39 counties and one (Seattle’s King Co.) runs the state politically


4 posted on 11/07/2022 2:28:21 PM PST by llevrok (Pronouns: Me/myself/& I)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Veto!

Last I heard, they were very welcoming.


5 posted on 11/07/2022 2:29:44 PM PST by FrankRizzo890
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: llevrok

And this is why you change the elections to whoever wins the most counties wins the electoral vote.


6 posted on 11/07/2022 2:33:22 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (At this point I would rather have the illegals here than the liberals.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: lowbridge

A better argument can be made for splitting states up. One or two leftist hellholes usually control the entire state. Prime example: Chicago. Southern IL is very beautiful and conservative, but they get screwed because of Chicago. We can easily add another 20 states within the Continental US.


7 posted on 11/07/2022 2:38:14 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lowbridge

What happened to the State of Jefferson?


8 posted on 11/07/2022 2:46:37 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; EQAndyBuzz; llevrok
A little-known 1964 Scotus decision blew up centuries of good state governance.

If Your State is a Mess.

9 posted on 11/07/2022 2:49:06 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: lowbridge

Yeah, sure!
Like that’s going to happen...


10 posted on 11/07/2022 2:56:11 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperatly need him)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lowbridge
The federal government controls much of the land in Idaho. As a consequence, that land is not productive to the state GDP or tax base. The feds try to compensate Idaho with something called Payment In Lieu of Taxes (PILT) paid to the state government. I suspect much of eastern Oregon has a similar issue. Some is farm land. Some is under federal control. More unproductive land from a GDP/tax perspective, but a significant burden during fire season. I agree that the population likely mirrors Idaho political/cultural values. There might be enough people to contribute another House representative. From a land perspective, it would make Idaho straddle more Pacific timezone than it currently does. Most of the state is Mountain timezone.
11 posted on 11/07/2022 2:59:39 PM PST by Myrddin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lowbridge

Article IV, Section 3:

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.


12 posted on 11/07/2022 3:06:18 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("There should have been an age and risk stratification approach." still true)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; bray; 1malumprohibitum; ...
If you would like more information about what’s happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me. Please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.
13 posted on 11/07/2022 3:10:15 PM PST by Twotone (While one may vote oneself into socialism one has to shoot oneself out of it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Veto!

We’re good with it. I’ve heard that a surveyor was bribed to cut a big piece of what should’ve been Idaho & give it to Montana. We should be a much bigger state! :-)


14 posted on 11/07/2022 3:12:31 PM PST by Twotone (While one may vote oneself into socialism one has to shoot oneself out of it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Jacquerie

What a great article. Thank you for sharing it.


15 posted on 11/07/2022 3:14:45 PM PST by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Dennis M.

Eastern Oregon and Eastern Washington would be better off as part of Idaho.


16 posted on 11/07/2022 3:17:32 PM PST by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Valpal1
Well, that was an intro.

There is much more on the subject if you are interested:

Progressing the Constitution - One Man One Vote Part I.

17 posted on 11/07/2022 3:41:13 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: lowbridge

Too bad our forefathers did not write Oregon’s Constitution.

Our forefathers ALMOST came to blows over giving each state 2 senators regardless of population.

States need to do SOMETHING similar. Perhaps instead of representation by population Oregon should give each county (out of 36) a vote in the House and each Senator one vote.

Then, King County would lose all it’s power and the state wouldn’t have to break up which I don’t think is a good idea, long term.

New York should do the same as should California. If people want to fight about it, fighting (and dying) over this proven concept would be better, in my opinion, than breaking up the state, which could also lead to fighting (and dying).


18 posted on 11/07/2022 3:41:30 PM PST by Cen-Tejas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: llevrok

“There are 39 counties and one (Seattle’s King Co.) runs the state politically.”

I feel your pain! Wisconsin has 72 Counties - and two of them, Dane & Milwaukee, think they OWN the rest of us! Ugh!


19 posted on 11/07/2022 3:51:32 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Jacquerie

*BUMP* More people need to know this!


20 posted on 11/07/2022 3:53:36 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson