Posted on 05/13/2022 8:03:41 AM PDT by dennisw
And CDR Salamander is Nostradamus once again.
The Russian ships have been a considerable disappointment.
Agree, but the ships are still pieces of crap. Propulsion system problems. Ridiculous. In a just world, Lockheed would be backbilled for this.
Does Texas have any coastal property that needs defending? You know, like from the South American hordes over-running it to collect US SSDI bennies?
Only if someone wants to buy ships that are getting structural cracks in their hulls. The LCS design somehow inherently overstresses the steel used.
The USN should actually be going after the engineers that designed them or the constructors if the spec’d type of steel wasn’t tested or used.
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Is there a USS McCain out there somewhere?
” they don’t have the capabilities that we expected.”
Have they have lost the expertise to properly test systems before deploying them?
But were the engineers diverse? That is what really matters.
They would probably make excellent Coast Guard SHIPS FOR ANY COUNTRY..................
Don’t buy into this so quick if you can see between the lines.
“...did not work out technically...”
Questions on this is what didn’t work out technically and what is technically?
“They’re not ready to do anything... When they are, they still break down”
How do you know they are breaking down if they aren’t ready to operate?
So I guess it was the fault of someone (Trump is who they will say) for paying for this calamity when it was not what they wanted and is not performing to this day to what they accepted or may never have been designed to do.
I can remember when Obama care came into the news and we were supposed to pass the bill to find out what was in it. It has now cost the taxpayers $1.683 trillion.
And one action that cost $1.683 trillion is not a problem and is still in operation while draining the use of possible social security and Medicare funds from the general fund for scenarios that could be more valuable to the same amount of people either now or in the future. And the one that’s a problem has costs $12.8 billion? These people balance a budget like many lost citizens balance a checkbook...catastrophically. But at least with the checkbook, it’s their money, not the taxpayers.
wy69
Lol. It would probably cost more to “derate” the ship than to build a new one for the USCG.
Not that it isn’t a good idea. But the Pentagon will never allow it. Too many retirement jobs at risk if the current USCG contracts are voided. Plus years in court and who knows what else the bureaucracy will throw in the way.
I would suggest that an investigation was made prior to the decision to scrap the vessels.
The investigation result might be that when submitted for budget approval and appropriation, a congressman balked at the cost and sought a reduction in the cost. As a result changes were made here and there in various specifications.
The engineer revising the type of steel might be ultimately be at fault.
Also it might be that the design was at the limit and failure resulted as a result of previously unknown reactions to the structure
And some Admiral said: “Oops, my bad”
And they are better off with new ships than those old USSR relics.
Is the term, “keel haul” obsolete in the new Navy?
5.56mm
Nonsense. You can always bluff until your hand is called. ;-)
On the plus side, this means that sailors won’t have to ride into battle on a deathtrap like the Littoral Combat Ship.
I don't think that's right, the Russian navy has big problems, they can't build them, can't maintain what they already have.
LCSs like Zumwalts are just not working out -- maybe just too many new technologies on one class of ships.
I like the new Constellation class frigates much better.
They can take on the Chinese.
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