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US Navy scraps NINE anti-submarine warships that cost $3.2 billion to make - some under three years old
FOR DAILYMAIL.COM ^ | 13 May 2022 | ADAM SOLOMONS

Posted on 05/13/2022 8:03:41 AM PDT by dennisw

-Because their technology is already obsolete Navy will decommission its entire fleet of Freedom-class combat warships Four of the $3.2bn fleet set for scrap heap were commissioned in 2019 and 2020

Anti-submarine system 'did not work out technically', naval operations chief said Ships 'incredibly expensive and [lack] the capabilities we expected': Rep. Smith Added: 'They're not ready to do anything... When they are, they still break down'

USS St Louis, launched in August 2020, will serve just three years of 25-year life Scrappings will save $391 million as US Navy plans new shipbuilding program Crews at Naval Station Mayport, Florida will have to wait for new ships to arrive Chinese Navy is set to count 460 warships by 2030, becoming world's largest

The US Navy will scrap nine warships worth $3.2 billion - despite some being just three years old - because their technology is already obsolete.

Anti-submarine systems on the Freedom-class combat warships, four of which were commissioned in 2019 and 2020, 'did not work out technically', the Navy's operations chief said.

Admiral Michael Gilday asked Congress to sign off on the scrapping, which will save the Navy $391 million.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: govtwaste; navy; taxdollarsatwork; usn
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To: dennisw

And CDR Salamander is Nostradamus once again.


41 posted on 05/13/2022 8:28:29 AM PDT by 3RIVRS
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To: marktwain

The Russian ships have been a considerable disappointment.


Have there been any sightings of the Admiral Makarov since the reports that she was on fire? Has there been any reports on the casualties aboard the Moskva?


42 posted on 05/13/2022 8:30:02 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Yo-Yo

Agree, but the ships are still pieces of crap. Propulsion system problems. Ridiculous. In a just world, Lockheed would be backbilled for this.


43 posted on 05/13/2022 8:32:11 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Sacajaweau
We’ll see what happens to them. Let’s see who they get sold/gifted to.

Does Texas have any coastal property that needs defending? You know, like from the South American hordes over-running it to collect US SSDI bennies?

44 posted on 05/13/2022 8:32:53 AM PDT by 4Runner
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To: Red Badger

Only if someone wants to buy ships that are getting structural cracks in their hulls. The LCS design somehow inherently overstresses the steel used.

The USN should actually be going after the engineers that designed them or the constructors if the spec’d type of steel wasn’t tested or used.


45 posted on 05/13/2022 8:32:57 AM PDT by jpp113
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To: dennisw

bookmark


46 posted on 05/13/2022 8:34:32 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: DaBroasta

Is there a USS McCain out there somewhere?


47 posted on 05/13/2022 8:35:58 AM PDT by 4Runner
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To: dennisw

” they don’t have the capabilities that we expected.”

Have they have lost the expertise to properly test systems before deploying them?


48 posted on 05/13/2022 8:36:15 AM PDT by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: dennisw

But were the engineers diverse? That is what really matters.


49 posted on 05/13/2022 8:37:22 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: DannyTN

They would probably make excellent Coast Guard SHIPS FOR ANY COUNTRY..................


50 posted on 05/13/2022 8:38:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: dennisw
But Dementia Joe has $40 Billion tax payer money to send to Ukraine.
51 posted on 05/13/2022 8:38:27 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: dennisw

Don’t buy into this so quick if you can see between the lines.

“...did not work out technically...”

Questions on this is what didn’t work out technically and what is technically?

“They’re not ready to do anything... When they are, they still break down”

How do you know they are breaking down if they aren’t ready to operate?

So I guess it was the fault of someone (Trump is who they will say) for paying for this calamity when it was not what they wanted and is not performing to this day to what they accepted or may never have been designed to do.

I can remember when Obama care came into the news and we were supposed to pass the bill to find out what was in it. It has now cost the taxpayers $1.683 trillion.

https://perry.house.gov/issues/facts-about-obamacare.htm#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20Joint%20Committee,been%20increased%20to%20%241.683%20trillion.

And one action that cost $1.683 trillion is not a problem and is still in operation while draining the use of possible social security and Medicare funds from the general fund for scenarios that could be more valuable to the same amount of people either now or in the future. And the one that’s a problem has costs $12.8 billion? These people balance a budget like many lost citizens balance a checkbook...catastrophically. But at least with the checkbook, it’s their money, not the taxpayers.

wy69


52 posted on 05/13/2022 8:39:01 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: Yo-Yo

Lol. It would probably cost more to “derate” the ship than to build a new one for the USCG.

Not that it isn’t a good idea. But the Pentagon will never allow it. Too many retirement jobs at risk if the current USCG contracts are voided. Plus years in court and who knows what else the bureaucracy will throw in the way.


53 posted on 05/13/2022 8:40:08 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: jpp113

I would suggest that an investigation was made prior to the decision to scrap the vessels.

The investigation result might be that when submitted for budget approval and appropriation, a congressman balked at the cost and sought a reduction in the cost. As a result changes were made here and there in various specifications.

The engineer revising the type of steel might be ultimately be at fault.

Also it might be that the design was at the limit and failure resulted as a result of previously unknown reactions to the structure


54 posted on 05/13/2022 8:41:43 AM PDT by bert ( (KW?E. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: dennisw

And some Admiral said: “Oops, my bad”


55 posted on 05/13/2022 8:41:43 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Thunder90

And they are better off with new ships than those old USSR relics.


56 posted on 05/13/2022 8:43:06 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: dennisw

Is the term, “keel haul” obsolete in the new Navy?

5.56mm


57 posted on 05/13/2022 8:43:40 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: Eccl 10:2
If it’s a certain loser, you have to fold and wait for a better situation.

Nonsense. You can always bluff until your hand is called. ;-)

58 posted on 05/13/2022 8:43:44 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: dennisw

On the plus side, this means that sailors won’t have to ride into battle on a deathtrap like the Littoral Combat Ship.


59 posted on 05/13/2022 8:46:08 AM PDT by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: Thunder90; marktwain
"And yes the Russians are also building their navy at a rapid pace. It’s why they don’t really care about the losses in the Black Sea, they can significantly outproduce any losses caused by the Ukrainians."

I don't think that's right, the Russian navy has big problems, they can't build them, can't maintain what they already have.

LCSs like Zumwalts are just not working out -- maybe just too many new technologies on one class of ships.

I like the new Constellation class frigates much better.
They can take on the Chinese.

60 posted on 05/13/2022 8:49:24 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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