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Turks Enraged as Ancestry.com Reveals the Truth: Most of Them Are Greeks
PJ Media ^ | June 10, 2021 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 06/13/2021 12:52:23 PM PDT by euram

The Turkish DNA Project, an online endeavor to track Turkish genetics, is enraged at the popular genealogy site Ancestry.com and has called for it to be boycotted for stating an inconvenient truth: many, and possibly most, modern Turks are the descendants of the Greeks who once formed the overwhelming majority of the population of the land that is now Turkey. In this as in so many other instances, the truth hurts, but that doesn’t make it any less the truth.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ancestrycom; ancientautopsies; ancientnavigation; byzantineempire; epigraphyandlanguage; erdogan; genealogy; godsgravesglyphs; greece; greeks; helixmakemineadouble; kurdistan; middleages; receptayyiperdogan; renaissance; romanempire; turkey; turkiye; turks
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To: Prince of Space
The only real difference between any Western European is language.
21 posted on 06/13/2021 2:00:02 PM PDT by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses . Now governed by idiots.)
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To: CatOwner

My parents are from Italy and go back many generations there. My oldest son and I have “mongolian spots” here and there. It makes me wonder, but I don’t trust those dna companies.


22 posted on 06/13/2021 2:00:06 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: Prince of Space

Kievans and Rus were Scandis, lots of raiding in the area. Plus all the Varnagians in Byzantium.


23 posted on 06/13/2021 2:13:42 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: euram

We knew that already...

Plus Ancestrydotcom has no creds as a source for proofs of direct ancestry...

Few serious family research people use them...

Hereditary societies dont accept their ‘info’ for membership...


24 posted on 06/13/2021 2:20:49 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: euram

The western part of Turkey is part of Grecia Magna.

Needs to be returned to Greece and Christianized.


25 posted on 06/13/2021 2:29:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: euram

Present day Turkey was a land of many great nations. There were Hittites, Armenians, Lydians, Celts (Galatians), Syrians, Medes (Kurds), Persians and of course Greeks. Real Turks invaded the area around A.D 1000 as a small, but determined band of warriors. They eventually conquered all middle East, North Africa and Balkans. The people were forced to convert to Turkish nationality and Muslim faith.


26 posted on 06/13/2021 2:32:24 PM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHGreco RomNQkryIIs)
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To: euram

Then again most of the DNA tests results by Ancestry are wrong - according to articles published last year some time.


27 posted on 06/13/2021 2:40:32 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: AZJeep
The Turks began to overrun Asia Minor after their victory in 1071 at Manzikert. Until then Asia Minor was Christian and probably mostly Greek-speaking (but some areas Armenian-speaking). But those "Greeks" could be descended from Hittites, Phrygians, Lydians, Carians, Cappadocians, Galatians (Gauls), and others, along with people whose ancestry went back to ancient Greece.

In the population exchange in the 1920s, Muslims in Greece were considered Turks and Greek Orthodox in Turkey were considered Greeks (even if they spoke Turkish).

In the late Middle Ages/early modern period, a lot of Albanians moved south into Greece and many rural areas were still Albanian-speaking in the 19th or even the 20th century. Of course the policy of the government was to get everyone to speak Greek.

In 1980 I spent a few days in a village in central Greece with several other Americans. One of the Americans told me of a conversation she had with an old lady in the village. After they exchanged greetings in Modern Greek, the old lady told her, "That's all the Greek I know. Do you speak Albanian?"

28 posted on 06/13/2021 2:55:23 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: nbenyo
Mine came back with a percentage Native American which is nonsense. My grandparents were immigrants from Eastern Europe.

Well ....

Be circumspect in how you broach the question with your parents.

29 posted on 06/13/2021 3:00:41 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: SamAdams76

You got it.


30 posted on 06/13/2021 3:02:13 PM PDT by Bloodandgravy (Demand for racism is outpacing supply.)
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To: sphinx

I don’t need to. It’s a well known error. As we know with covid and climate change, what passes as “science” is often fake.

Thanks for your concern.


31 posted on 06/13/2021 3:05:59 PM PDT by nbenyo
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To: euram

I wonder what a DNA study of modern Greeks would show.


32 posted on 06/13/2021 3:09:06 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: seowulf

In the USA people take out college loans and voluntarily become slaves to the banks. At least the Turks were more honest about slavery.


33 posted on 06/13/2021 3:31:38 PM PDT by MercyFlush (A wise man once said nothing. )
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To: sphinx

Agreed. I did a DNA search found out my father was adopted. My family was peeved at me for upending a pile of fabricated Irish family stories with this info.

Upside, I got to meet my Scottish cousins I didn’t know I had!


34 posted on 06/13/2021 3:35:52 PM PDT by MercyFlush (A wise man once said nothing. )
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To: euram

Best headline about this article so far:

“Quirky Turks Merked & Irked”


35 posted on 06/13/2021 4:11:16 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Do kids in Iceland still play "The Floor Is Lava?")
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To: nbenyo
The only part of the ancestry.com tests that shouldn't be taken as conclusive is the ethnecity section and they tell you up front that it's based on these four:

Modern Day Locations

History of Ethnicities

Notable Ancestors

Migrations into and from the region

The dna part is very real and accurate, you just have to know how to use it.
I have found the parents of adoptees and the great grandparents of others based solely on dna and investigative tools that I pay for.

36 posted on 06/13/2021 4:26:37 PM PDT by lil'bit
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To: MercyFlush
In the USA people take out college loans and voluntarily become slaves to the banks. At least the Turks were more honest about slavery.

I'd say it's probably more like an indentured servant, but it is true: people will jump at any chance to enslave themselves to useless baubles.

37 posted on 06/13/2021 4:27:33 PM PDT by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: euram

It’s Ancestry.com. Just wait a week and the test results will change.


38 posted on 06/13/2021 4:45:42 PM PDT by socal_parrot (Squirrel!)
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To: seowulf

The Turks enslaved a lot of people—pirate raids, capturing people traveling by sea, and through the “blood tribute” (taking Christian boys from rural areas of the empire and forcing them to become Muslims). If some of those enslaved had offspring there could be Turks with Greek, Bulgarian, Serbian, Italian or other ancestries.


39 posted on 06/13/2021 5:36:14 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: AZJeep

The Biblical Galatians in Turkey had their origins as Gallic/Celtic nomads and mercenaries from western and central Europe.


40 posted on 06/13/2021 5:50:37 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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