Posted on 05/29/2020 1:55:38 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
George Floyd died Monday from a combination of preexisting health conditions exacerbated by being held down by Minneapolis officers, not from strangulation or asphyxiation, based on the medical examiner’s initial report.
Preliminary findings from a Tuesday autopsy conducted by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner found “no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxiation or strangulation,” according to the criminal complaint filed Friday against former officer Derek Michael Chauvin.
“Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease,” said the complaint from the Hennepin County Attorney. “The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.”
The Minneapolis police officer fired earlier this week was charged Friday with third-degree murder and manslaughter after kneeling on Mr. Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. Video showed he was unresponsive for the last 2 minutes and 53 seconds.
“Police are trained that this type of restraint with a subject in a prone position is inherently dangerous,” the complaint said.
According to the filing, officers confronted Mr. Floyd after receiving a 911 call saying that he had paid for merchandise at Cup Foods with a phony $20 bill. They found him nearby in his vehicle with an adult male and female.
Mr. Floyd, who was six feet tall and weighed over 200 pounds, was handcuffed and led to the squad car, but resisted getting inside, saying he was claustrophobic.
While standing, he said repeatedly he couldn’t breathe. Mr. Floyd struggled as officers tried to force him into the car and fell to the ground. Two officers held him down while Officer Chauvin pressed his knee on the suspect’s neck.
Mr. Floyd said “I can’t breathe” multiple times, as well as
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You don’t get hopped up on fentanyl...you get knocked down. It depresses the CNS.
Thanks for this info.
Ping.
Add excited delirium into the mix and you’re drinking a lethal cocktail.
MINNESOTA, Minn. (WTVO) — The Hennepin County Medical Examiner says a preliminary autopsy found no evidence that George Floyd died of strangulation and traumatic asphyxia after former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin kneeled on his neck for more than 8 minutes.
The medical examiner said Floyd had underlying health conditions, including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease.
“The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death,” the medical examiner reported.
According to criminal complaint against Chauvin, who was charged with third degree murder and manslaughter on Friday, police were called to a grocery store after Floyd allegedly gave them a counterfeit $20 bill.
Officers Thomas Lane and J.A. Kueng arrived first and found three people in a car, including Floyd and other woman, both of whom were known to police, according to the complaint.
Floyd was ordered out of the car and was handcuffed, and “actively resisted being handcuffed,” according to body cam footage obtained by the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension.
As officers were taking Floyd to their squad car, he stiffened up and fell to the ground, complaining that he was claustrophobic.
Officers Chauvin and Tou Thoa arrived in a separate squad car and attempted to get Floyd into the car, according to the complaint. While standing outside the car, Floyd began saying that he could not breathe.
The trial will determine whether Mr. Floyd was murdered, and if so, to what degree, or not murdered. Innocent until proven Guilty, or that’s the way it’s supposed to happen
I presumed the report would be all over FR, hence one of the reasons I differentiated between airway and carotid blood flow to the brain.
There have been times, when the carotid was what we were aiming to crush, vs direct airway. It really is easy, and does not take that much pressure.
Floyd’s airway was not cut off, his carotid artery carrying blood to the brain was at least intermittently being fully compressed. The officer was at least at times only using his right leg for balance, placing most of his weight on the carotid.
When the carotid gets compressed, the carotid artery then tries to deviate to one of the sides, in order to provide blood to the brain. Not only were we taught this as EMT’s, but I have seen this several times. Again, it’s how we are made.
The officer was not directly cutting off the airway. The airway was not directly facing the officer.
Floyd would have been face down, except he naturally had his head turned (as everyone does), in order to try and breath and communicate, exposing his carotid artery to the weight and movement of the officers knee.
Floyd’s unsupported body weight was itself resting on his own diaphragm and lungs (which gets more dangerous as people age), and which is again one of the long standing ttp’s used to weaken an opponent or suspect, and to keep them subdued, vulnerable, and less able to fight. With arms behind the back, they have to work much harder to breath under their own weight alone.
It’s just how we are made.
If Floyd already had a pre-existing condition, or was using narcotics, thise would serve to mess him up more.
It is amazing he lasted so long.
Personally, I don’t think he lasted that long. I believe he was gone well before the officer took his knee off.
I dont know if the report was true, but there was “reporting” that Floyd’s body was evacuating itself. This also happens when a person goes unconscious, or dies, as those muscles totally relax/let go.
IF true, it is likely that is when he was either about dead, or dead. And that reportedly happened well before the officer took his knee off Floyd’s carotid area.
Look on Wikipedia. Traumatic asphyxiation is related to blood backflowing due to pressure on the chest.
Or rather “VOIDED” vs “evacuated”.
CV-19 can be listed as the cause of death even if not tested for it - if the deceased had shown certain symptoms of it that contributed to death. Consistent with this, the actions (and inactions) of the PO in the Floyd case can be ascribed as the immediate cause of death despite underlying health conditions being part of it.
Will COVID-19 be the underlying cause? The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate. However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID- 19 being the underlying cause more often than not... COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. (bold eph. in original: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf)
Cutting off Oxygen to the brain via heavy carotid pressure for almost 9 minutes, and over 2 minute after he became unresponsive would seem to be plenty of a “contributive” factor...on an already subdued person.
Guard troops can’t even defend themselves in a war zone. You should personally have to: inform the family of every defenseless guard member who is targeted and pay their medical and funeral bills.
This in what the leftists want,, more targets. Probably similar to their knockout game.
“not from strangulation or asphyxiation”?
Yeah, and Jeffy Epstein hung himself? And Hillary did nothing prosecutable?
Why believe any damned thing these,”authorities”, tell us?
“”””’You don’t get hopped up on fentanyl...you get knocked down. It depresses the CNS.”””””””””
It’s just an expression. Up or down it kills you.
When the toxicology report comes out I believe it will say drugs killed him.
Allegedly passing off a counterfeit $20 bill. Not exactly a violent crime if indeed a crime was committed.
And FWIW, I once ended up with a fake $20 bill that I got as change from another retailer back when it wasn’t unusual to cash a paycheck and pay for purchases in cash with $50 dollar bills, and that I didn’t know was counterfeit as it wasn’t obvious to me that it was and that retailer who passed it to me probably didn’t know either. The store clerk called over her manager and the manager told me it was counterfeit and after explaining where and how I got it and that it wasn’t my intention to pass it off as payment and as I had enough other cash to pay for my purchase, FWIW the police were not called on me and the store manager only suggested I take the counterfeit bill to my bank and exchange it, which I did.
In all the videos available so far, I’ve not seen any that show Floyd “running around acting out of control”.
Allegedly passing off a counterfeit $20 bill. Not exactly a violent crime if indeed a crime was committed.
And FWIW, I once ended up with a fake $20 bill that I got as change from another retailer back when it wasn’t unusual to cash a paycheck and pay for purchases in cash with $50 dollar bills, and that I didn’t know was counterfeit as it wasn’t obvious to me that it was and that retailer who passed it to me probably didn’t know either. The store clerk called over her manager and the manager told me it was counterfeit and after explaining where and how I got it and that it wasn’t my intention to pass it off as payment and as I had enough other cash to pay for my purchase, FWIW the police were not called on me and the store manager only suggested I take the counterfeit bill to my bank and exchange it, which I did.
He caused his own death..........................
What exactly was his response that caused his own death?
The difference in my case was that perhaps being a white middle to upper class looking woman, the retailer did not call the police on me. And even if the police had been called, I'd likely to have been questioned and given an opportunity to explain myself rather than have to have been forecably removed from my car at gun point and cuffed.
“Allegedly passing off a counterfeit $20 bill. Not exactly a violent crime if indeed a crime was committed.”
Who said it was a violent crime? But it was why the cops were called.
“In all the videos available so far, I’ve not seen any that show Floyd “running around acting out of control”.
If I recall correctly, this was also the description that was given when the cops were called.
What exactly was his response that caused his own death?
When challenged on the issue, the store keeper had to call the cops. The aggressor did not acknowledge the problem and seek a solution.
He caused his own death. Yes, it was a little thing, but that is the nature of many deaths.
Or would you blame the store keeper? There are many causes here. Why your focus on what the police did vs all the participants?
The guy caused his own death, he made a bad choice. He started the chain of events.
He should have watched Chris Rock’s “How Not To Get Your Ass Kicked By the Police”
LAPD found out that having the not unrelated chokehold/sleeper hold being in their training/rulebook did *not* save officers from being convicted of manslaughter and murder when they had people die in custody.
Go put on your white hood you filthy racist.
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