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Is it a good idea to have non-citizens from third world countries running our American computer systems?
1 posted on 04/26/2020 7:11:07 PM PDT by jroehl
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This is a problem with many STEM fields ... because STEM disciplines are universal by definition.

If every H1B visa was canceled tomorrow and all of these foreign workers were sent home, I honestly wonder if most companies that employ them would simply hire them back in their home countries. In an age of modern information technology and communications, you can work with someone in India as easy as you can work with someone in the next zip code.

2 posted on 04/26/2020 7:14:50 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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Is it a good idea to have non-citizens from third world countries running our American computer systems?

The Democrat party seems to think so.

3 posted on 04/26/2020 7:15:04 PM PDT by SirFishalot
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“After 31 years in a highly skilled field a person should not feel threatened by the loss of their career.”

It has happened to plenty of people in other industries. It was happening to me but I did make it out in time just as you hope.

This time it’s happening due to technology so it’s kind of a two-edged sword, no?


4 posted on 04/26/2020 7:15:28 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods ("As government expands, liberty contracts." -Ronald Reagan)
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We have NO reason to import foreign IT workers, now that we can all work from home, right?


5 posted on 04/26/2020 7:16:17 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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I bet if you raised concerned about these foreign workers, you would be fired with a lable of racist stuck on you record. We have allowed Cultural Marxism to be used as justification for anything that give advantage to unethical policymakers.


7 posted on 04/26/2020 7:18:43 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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Defense contractors can only hire US citizens.

That part of IT is still US-only.


8 posted on 04/26/2020 7:19:02 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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My youngest son graduated with dual majors in both Electrical Engineering and Computer Science. An easy decision for him as there is some overlap in the curriculum.
Graduated from a well-known school with a very good GPA.
He has applied for many jobs all across the country and has had exactly ZERO interviews nevermind job offers.


10 posted on 04/26/2020 7:20:19 PM PDT by ocrp1982
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Link isn’t working for me.


11 posted on 04/26/2020 7:21:50 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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My husband lasted 28 years in IT before he had too much grey hair, the wrong nationality and a salary that made him a target. He and I both taught at pitiful salaries in a parochial school for a few more years to get our sons through college. Job security, pensions . . . quaint notions . . . unless you’re a government employee.


12 posted on 04/26/2020 7:22:33 PM PDT by Think free or die
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bttt


14 posted on 04/26/2020 7:23:35 PM PDT by timestax
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I worked for a power company before I retired. I sounded the alarm about allowing foreigners holding no allegiance to our nation having unfettered access to the grid and I was ridiculed for my efforts.

There is no legitimate reason for h1b’s. They exist out of greed, not necessity. If they were prohibited American business would adapt - just like they did before they came along.


18 posted on 04/26/2020 7:27:49 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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This is one issue President Trump has yet to address. There should be an absolute halt to H-1Bs. Maybe someone is feeding him bad advice. President Trump needs to explicitly say no more H-1Bs.
 
22 posted on 04/26/2020 7:33:21 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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Please, Mr. President, stop this H1B treachery.


23 posted on 04/26/2020 7:34:39 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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You don’t want to know who is driving that big rig either. The transportation industry is going down the tubes fast.


25 posted on 04/26/2020 7:35:21 PM PDT by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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I am called out to build a job next week that we should get done in two weeks. It is to add a computerized picking system to a grocery supplier. The irony is that the job is critically needed to help a big box retailer meet demand, however the installation will not be brought online as ALL the PROGRAMMERS that would commission the install are down visiting family in Mexico and cannot get back through the border. 5 years ago all the IT guys were Americans, but they were forced to train their replacements. Now ALL the IT is H1B visa types, as they will work at half the cost and 3/4 the competence.

The company I work for was taken over by a Teachers Union, it all went downhill from there. Moved factories over the border, ran out the Americans, now 80% of the construction guys, mill wrights and electricians all speak Spanish on the job.

Sad thing Corporate greed has done to America.


30 posted on 04/26/2020 7:40:26 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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Mumbai programmers are just as good as American programmers.

Just ask Boeing about the Mumbai programmers who worked on the Boeing 737 MAX.


33 posted on 04/26/2020 7:43:15 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed the Communist Revolution would arrive disguised as the common cold?)
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I hear ya. I got two degrees and three certifications, yet all I’ve been able to land is an admin job. Granted, I can use my IT knowledge to benefit my work section, but I am not doing what I spent four years of college training to do.


35 posted on 04/26/2020 7:47:14 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To the author: I made more money every year in IT.

I advanced my career through self study, continuous learning and the desire to reform into what was needed in that era.

That said, I saw many hundreds lose their jobs to H-1Bs.

If you do not move into management or project management, you are at risk with any enterprise that builds and sells products.

Think of the fate of a 48yr old construction worker with pain in every joint and be damn glad you’re in IT.


37 posted on 04/26/2020 7:50:10 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I see a lot of H1Bs and offshores these days, but a quality American IT guy will always outperform the foreigners. Seen it with my own eyes.


44 posted on 04/26/2020 7:56:50 PM PDT by Lazamataz (China got this virus right off the bat.)
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Just so people know, there are always good paying IT/CS related jobs in the military for civilians or contractors. Excellent benefits and the salaries have had annual increases recently. Many of these can be found in Austin Texas at the new Army Futures Command. There are other positions scattered around the world and in the other services. You need to be US citizens and have secret or TS clearance. You can be any age for most of the positions. Being a military vet may help you relate to the job and the people you will work with, but it is usually not a requirement. These jobs are often technically challenging and cutting edge.


50 posted on 04/26/2020 8:07:40 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Follow your Inner Trump)
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