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To: jroehl
This is a problem with many STEM fields ... because STEM disciplines are universal by definition.

If every H1B visa was canceled tomorrow and all of these foreign workers were sent home, I honestly wonder if most companies that employ them would simply hire them back in their home countries. In an age of modern information technology and communications, you can work with someone in India as easy as you can work with someone in the next zip code.

2 posted on 04/26/2020 7:14:50 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Eve if that were the result for some, better than them here.


9 posted on 04/26/2020 7:19:38 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Workers)
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To: Alberta's Child

That’s the problem right there.

That thought came to my mind also.

I don’t want to be dismissive, but technology jobs aren’t as
secure as the jobs our parents and grandparents had.

In their generation there was far less upheaval due to
things changing. In today’s society, things always seem
fluid, changing, being born and dying in a short period of
time.

Corporations answer to their shareholders too. Not
everything they do is sinister. They have to be on the
top of their game. If not, the leadership is booted.

The one true thing here above all else, is that this guy
admits he’s lucky to still have a job in the field.

It’s a sad reality. The times they are a changing.

I don’t know how you get around that.


13 posted on 04/26/2020 7:22:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: Alberta's Child

This is true. My son-in-law, an IT genius, works remotely with his counterparts in Israel, England, and Germany.

Home office is in Berlin.


15 posted on 04/26/2020 7:26:39 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: Alberta's Child
you can work with someone in India as easy as you can work with someone in the next zip code.

Not so - time zone differences, and the inability to ever drop in on an employee, matter.

What matters even more is the inferior quality of offshore work - which has moved a number of companies to 're=shore' in recent years.

17 posted on 04/26/2020 7:27:47 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Alberta's Child

IT has always been a great way for a young worker to overachieve financially - but it always transforms into a lousy job (though not necessarily a lousy contracting option) for anyone over 40.


21 posted on 04/26/2020 7:31:15 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Alberta's Child

If a corporation fires an American worker and hires a foreign replacement, they should face tariffs for their goods sold in the U.S., as if they were a foreign corporation importing those goods or services.


42 posted on 04/26/2020 7:56:12 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Alberta's Child
In an age of modern information technology and communications, you can work with someone in India as easy as you can work with someone in the next zip code.

Outsourcing something like IT to India isn't as easy/smooth as people think it is. To start with, it's around 10pm in India, when it's 0800 here. The entire workday, when most short-notice IT issue occur, is overnight there. Sure, it's easy time-wise for them to do maintenance during the day (nighttime here), but that's only for minor software patching and stuff. Any hardware access obviously requires someone onsite here.

Also, I work in AV and we've done some events for companies that use Indian groups for some services. In order for us to set up cross-streaming video, requires an easy, small setup on our end, and a team of 5-6 guys with us just for the foreign connections, and a team of several guys on the Indian side as well. What 1-2 of our techs can do, takes 5-6 of their guys. We have much more complicated gear for switching multiple sources and sending multiple places, while each of their locations was simply a laptop with a webcam. That they could barely get working. Indians are very step-by-step workers, who generally expect someone under them to handle the issue so they don't have to do much. They have little to no creativity / out-of-the-box thinking. They're terrible at troubleshooting, and unless they see you as an equal or higher caste, they tend to ignore what you tell them.

Some buddies who are in the programming world tell me similar stories. Indian coding tends to be very copy-n-paste, cobbled together until it works for the exact situation you're testing. But in the real world, the code is many times unusable, inflexible and unable to handle changes, scaling, or even the normal idiot user.
65 posted on 04/26/2020 8:45:25 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Alberta's Child

FU. Your globalist apologetic propaganda is not going to work. End H-1B visas NOW!!!


100 posted on 04/27/2020 6:10:41 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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