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Astounding New Finds Suggest Ancient Empire Hiding in Plain Sight
Science Magazine ^ | 2/27/2020 | Lizzie Wade

Posted on 03/04/2020 6:03:53 PM PST by wildbill

SAN JUAN TEOTIHUACAN, MEXICO—On 16 January 378 C.E., a stranger arrived in Tikal, a large Maya city in what is now northern Guatemala. His name was Sihyaj K’ahk’ (SEE-yah Kak), or Fire is Born, and he was likely a mighty warrior from a distant land. Many archaeologists think he hailed from Teotihuacan, a metropolis of 100,000 people about 1000 kilometers northwest of Tikal, near today’s Mexico City. And he may have come with an army.

The stone Maya monuments that record Sihyaj K’ahk’s arrival don’t say why he came or how he was received by Chak Tok Ich’aak, or Jaguar Paw, the long-reigning king of Tikal. But the day Sihyaj K’ahk’ marched into the city was the day Jaguar Paw died.

The engravings suggest Sihyaj K’ahk’ had been sent by a powerful foreign ruler called Spearthrower Owl. Within 2 years, Spearthrower Owl’s young son was crowned the new king of Tikal. In portraits carved on stone monuments there, the new king, named Yax Nuun Ayiin, holds an atlatl, a spearthrower used by Teotihuacan warriors, and wears a Teotihuacan-style headdress

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: empire; fireisborn; godsgravesglyphs; guatemala; maya; sihyajkahk; teotihuacan; tikal
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Fascinating paper on the possible connection through trade or war between the Central Mexico empire of Tiotihuacan and the Mayan City of Tikal, 1000km away.
1 posted on 03/04/2020 6:03:53 PM PST by wildbill
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping.


2 posted on 03/04/2020 6:05:30 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: wildbill
"On 16 January 378 C.E.,..."

When is this?....In English...
Christian Era?
Communist Era?
Caliph Era?
Caucasian Era?

3 posted on 03/04/2020 6:22:33 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: wildbill

I think the author of this article meant 378 AD.


4 posted on 03/04/2020 6:23:53 PM PST by EvilCapitalist (Pets are no substitute for children.)
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To: SuperLuminal

You noticed it too.


5 posted on 03/04/2020 6:24:54 PM PST by EvilCapitalist (Pets are no substitute for children.)
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To: wildbill

This is starting to align more and more with the Book of Mormon!


6 posted on 03/04/2020 6:25:56 PM PST by teppe
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To: wildbill

Oh wow. THAT is a new find and theory which is a major event in Mexican history.


7 posted on 03/04/2020 6:27:21 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: wildbill
a powerful foreign ruler called Spearthrower Owl

His friends called him Chuck.

8 posted on 03/04/2020 6:32:16 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: teppe

Wait... What?


9 posted on 03/04/2020 6:37:22 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: wildbill

When I was much younger, I made it to the top of both big pyramids at Teotihuacan, the sun and the moon. It’s a tough climb up both. At the top of each there were a kids selling bottles of Coke. Don’t know how many cases of Coke they humped up those pyramids, but they sure earned what little money they got paid. I still have some obsidian “razor blades” I found the the unexcavated parts of the site.


10 posted on 03/04/2020 6:39:43 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: ClearCase_guy

Lol

I feel terrible that it came to my mind but at least I didn’t type it this time:-)


11 posted on 03/04/2020 6:41:02 PM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't but w finger at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to makne ends meet)
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To: SuperLuminal

Idiots like to call these days “Common Era” as if that made any sense at all. But anything to pretend Christ does not exist I suppose.


12 posted on 03/04/2020 6:48:58 PM PST by visualops (WooHoo Trump Train! Get on board or get out of the way!)
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To: wildbill
As I say to my Mexican friends when the Mexican folk demand Texas and California be returned and Make them Mexico Again.

Make Mexico Mayan or Inca again and throw out the interlopers and decedents of Spain!

13 posted on 03/04/2020 6:51:08 PM PST by SERE_DOC ( The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. TJ)
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To: SuperLuminal

It’s 28th of Tevet, 4138 but they assumed the reader uses a pagan Roman calendar instead of the real one.


14 posted on 03/04/2020 6:54:23 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: wildbill

Thanks for this, very interesting.


15 posted on 03/04/2020 7:08:00 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: wildbill

Thanks for this, very interesting.


16 posted on 03/04/2020 7:08:16 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: visualops

If someone uses CE you can bet they are a leftist idiot.


17 posted on 03/04/2020 7:09:15 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: gibsonguy
Since A.D. = anno Domini, "in the year of the Lord," we could use Y.O.L. as an abbreviation. Or perhaps Y.S. (Year of Salvation). Maybe use a lot of alternatives to mess with people's minds.

Different attempts have been made to determine the Biblical date of the creation--by the Jewish calendar we are now in the year 5780. Archbishop Ussher put the creation in 4004 B.C. so that would make it A.M. 6023 now (A.M. = Anno Mundi). The Byzantines had a different calculation.

It would make studying Greek and Roman history easier if Abraham's birth was arbitrarily calculated as 2000 B.C. and was made the starting-point, so we could just add 2000 to current dates--we would now be in Y.A. 4020. Then we wouldn't have to count down 480 B.C., 479 B.C., 478 B.C., etc.

18 posted on 03/04/2020 7:22:29 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Jewbacca
It’s 28th of Tevet, 4138 but they assumed the reader uses a pagan Roman calendar instead of the real one.

I love you.

19 posted on 03/04/2020 7:27:30 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: wildbill
On 16 January 378 C.E...

That would be On 16 January 378 A.D.

20 posted on 03/04/2020 7:31:28 PM PST by sauropod (David Horowitz: “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out.”)
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