Posted on 04/01/2019 9:50:19 PM PDT by entropy12
COLUMBUS, Ohio—A proposed Ohio constitutional amendment to award the state’s presidential electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote has cleared an initial hurdle toward making the statewide ballot this November.
A summary of the proposed amendment was certified by Attorney General Dave Yost on Monday as a “fair and truthful statement of the proposed law,” though Yost didn’t weigh in on whether he supported or opposed the measure.
(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...
People don’t have to vote for it. Their representatives do it for them.
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Hey, that’s ‘what democracy looks like.’
Why be a citizen for that matter
We are witnessing a hostile takeover of the country.
there are real constitutional questions.
1. Since the electoral college is not abolished, the citizens of the state are still voting for electors. If the winning side has its elected electors denied and the losing electors sent to Washington, then those voters’ votes have been overturned. That hardly seems to be what the Founders intended: winners are losers and losers are winners.
2. The 14th amendment clarifies that electors cannot be arbitrarily assigned, but are intended to be assigned based on a RIGHT to vote of citizens:
***A14, S2 - But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States,***
3. That means that A2, S2 means “after a vote of citizens has taken place in that state”.
***A2, S2: Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct***
Therefore, it cannot be an arbitrary decision and it must involve the state “thereof” that is in question.
4. The assignment of electors, therefore, must be based on the vote of citizens of THAT state “thereof”, and not on the votes of citizens of other states. This is their RIGHT.
5. A14, S2 says any effort by a legislature to subvert the right to vote results in their losing about half of their electoral votes in that election.
6. Finally, What about recounts? What about majority versus plurality? Imagine a Ross Perot and no candidate achieves a majority. So, if a national candidate is not really preferred by a majority of Americans, why should my right to vote be refused and my electors be denied to my candidate in a 3, 4, or 5 way contest?
The constitution doesn’t begin to address a national recount, so that must not have been the intent.
If Trump wins the popular vote in 2020, just watch how quickly these states revert back to how the Electoral College is the way to go after all.
yep, unbelievably ignorant.
But the spanner wouldn't come into play til after the election...The act has to occur before the Court can get involved...And with John Roberts on the Court, who knows what would happen??? What a mess...
“Mess” sure does sum it up.
They got states to ratify popular vote for US Senators... start of the slippery slope
so. The democrat popular vote winner must never make it to inauguration
Each state’s legislature does determine the manner of picking that state’s electors. However, this compact could still be ruled unconstitutional, because (1) the Congress must approve of it, per the Constitution, and that has not happened yet; and (2) less than half the states could effectively overthrow the traditional method of selecting the President, as opposed to the 3/4 needed to ratify a genuine Constitutional amendment that does the same.
Even if the state voters went for the other candidate the state will vote for the one with the popular vote? How is this not against the wishes of the voters?
Why ?
Nope. Not even close.
Post the words then.
So why go vote at all? Regardless who you vote for the collective hive of the nation is the decision. You are not counted.
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