Posted on 01/15/2018 2:21:01 PM PST by Texas Fossil
Historian Taner Akçam decpihred the telegram by executive of Teşikilat-ı Mahsusa (Secret Organization) and Commitee of Union and Progress Bahaettin Şakir dated July 4, 1915. The telegram is about coordination of deportation and annihilation of Armenians. The letterhead on the telegram proves that it is indeed original.
We have a telegram written by Bahaettin Şakir on July 4, 1915, which was sent to Governor Sabit Bey for delivering it to Elağız (Harput/Kharpet) Inspector of CUP Nazım Bey. The purpose of the telegram was to coordinate deportation and annihilation of Armenians. The telegram reads: “Are the Armenians who were deported from there being evacuated? Are the troublesome individuals whom you have reported as being exiled are being annihilated or merely sent off and deported? Please report back honestly."
(Excerpt) Read more at agos.com.tr ...
In light of Erdogan's threats to the US and warning of pending invasion of Afrin (Efrin) in Syria and destruction of Kurds there, this does relate to current news. Pattern of more of the same, without remorse.
"these documents we have found in Ottoman archive were opened to researchers by 2010"
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Also another group of documents that give more details about the nature of the planning behind the Genocide:
“The houses of the ones who hide Armenians will be burned and they will be executed”
These make you wonder how Turkey continues to deny any of this happened, in the face of Turkish documents verifying it. (Their argument has been, the documents are not original documents, only microfilm. As if microfilm is not a valid proof)
When I see the photograph of those young Armenian women being crucified, I just feel a deep anger and revulsion towards the Turks of that era.
Yes. And if you read the article I listed in my posting statement you will see how this was forced from the very top of the leadership.
Turkey is now approaching the same thing again. Erdogan the Islamist intends a repeat.
Have not verified it yet, but read an interesting report on recent weapons acquisition by elements in Northern Syria. If true, it will change the game there. Will not elaborate here.
Thanks Texas Fossil.
Good work.
This will go nowhere. Islam is a protected species and the 3 monkeys of international law will pretend nothing happened to those Armenians a century ago.
Till the late 90s I used to frequent a now closed, very large, gun store, nearby They kept an Armenian speaking salesman on staff. Americans of Armenian descent frequented the place and were extremely serious about their guns and felt blessed to be able to live in a country which allowed them to protect themselves after what their kinfolk back in Turkey had to endure.
Which is different from Turks in later times how?
- August
- The Turkish Nationalist and Bolshevik forces form an alliance.
- November 22
- President Woodrow Wilson presents his delineation of the borders of Armenia. A week later Armenia is partitioned by Turkish Nationalist forces and Sovietized by Russian Bolsheviks.
Anybody have the total figures on the tens of millions the Bolsheviks managed to exterminate handy?
My mother was born in 1918, and would tell me as a child (60’s) to “Eat my peas - just think of those starving Armenians!” I never understood that, and she could sort of explain it - but it came down to “I don’t know - but that is what my mother always used to tell me.”
So I just did a search, figuring that the Minneapolis area must have had a relatively large population of Armenians back when she was a child.
Found this excerpt “From 1918 through 1924, another wave of Armenian refugees made the Twin Cities home.” Armenians first arrived in Minnesota in the 1800’s - about the same time my grandmother got off the boat from Norway. But the Armenians of 1918 were obviously in dire straits - so “eat your peas”. The same article said 75% of the Armenians (Christians) were wiped out in the genocide! Even today, I believe that around the world, Christians are the most persecuted religion.
>>the Armenians of 1918 were obviously in dire straits - so “eat your peas”
Armenians. Volga-German-Russians. Ukrainians...
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Holodomor+Genocide
It was a pattern of learned behavior.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=200+years+together
Iran's President Hassan Rouhani, Russia's Vladimir Putin and Turkey's Tayyip Erdogan meet in Sochi, Russia November 22, 2017. (photo credit: SPUTNIK/MIKHAIL METZEL/KREMLIN VIA REUTERS)
God Blessed Texas in a very special way.
Attitude here is securely wedded to gun ownership. It will remain.
Genocide is Genocide. no matter if it was done before the word was used. (The Great Evil, Metz Yeghern)
What is worse, the Turks have managed to deny it totally since 23 and 24 April, 1915.
AND I believe Erdogan fully intends to do it again, unless he is stopped.
That may actually be about to happen.
Watch closely in the next week. I think Erdogan the Islamist will really blow his headgasket again very soon.
This may not end well for him at all.
I’ve spent a great amount of time getting to know the Syrian Kurds in the past 3 years.
Some of the Kurds were directly involved in the Armenian Genocide. Others helped some of them escape at great personal risk.
Turkey is a multi ethinic Genocide (Massacre) perp nation. Jews, Greeks, Alevi, Assyrian, Armenian, Christian and more. Now they seek to do it to Kurds.
Would you resist?
My father saw Dachau not long after it was liberated. One of his high school friends was an officer who was involved directly in it’s liberation.
They forced the citizens of Munich to go to the camp so there was never any denial of what actually took place. (Dachau was a political prisoner camp, evil, but not like some of the others) Still it was extermination on a mass scale.
There is a special place in hell for people who commit these crimes against mankind.
Yes, I’ve read about the “death by starvation” in the Ukraine.
China did that too, during WWII. Taxing for war effort to the point of mass starvation. Hunan Province in particular.
>>Genocide is Genocide. no matter if it was done before the word was used.
It's nothing new under the Aten.
Got Mlk?
The name Moloch results from a dysphemic vocalisation in the Second Temple period of a theonym based on the root mlk "king".
Turks are pigs.
This was the blueprint for the Jewish holocaust and Slavic extermination by Hitler.
Often quoted in this context:
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