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Sailor says Navy punished her for not standing for 'Star Spangled Banner'
New York Times ^ | September 22, 2016 | WITW Staff

Posted on 09/22/2016 7:25:38 PM PDT by kevcol

Ervin explained in her Facebook post that on September 19, "while in uniform, I made the conscious decision to not stand for the Star Spangled Banner because I feel like a hypocrite, singing about 'land of the free' when, I know that only applies to some Americans." Ervin said in the post that she was punished by Navy officials and that the "equipment I need to do my Naval job" was taken away.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blm; military; nationalanthem; navy; protest; usn
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To: Secret Agent Man
The military is not civilian life.

To many of us "Oldtimers", the phrase "Your Heart May Belong to Mama but..., YOUR ASS BELONGS TO UNCLE SAM" may sound familiar! I guess it is too PC to emphasis such a phrase in today's "Military Occupations Jobs Program"?

41 posted on 09/22/2016 7:37:01 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: AndyJackson
How did she get through boot camp?

You have to ask?

42 posted on 09/22/2016 7:37:08 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: kevcol

Wonderfull !!!


43 posted on 09/22/2016 7:37:09 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: kevcol

Dock her C.O.’s pay for the cost of a mop and bucket, and give her the equipment she needs to do her job. Tell her she’s to mop from 0500 to 2100, with 3 15 minute breaks for meals and other needs, with the freedom to mop during the National Anthem if she wishes. There’s always a deck somewhere that could use a good swabbing.


44 posted on 09/22/2016 7:37:11 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: kevcol

There are plenty of Latrines to clean and plenty of Potato’s to Peel on the United States Navy Vessel she is Serving on.

First point of order, cleaning the Brig with a Toothbrush.


45 posted on 09/22/2016 7:37:33 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Trump made his money and went to D.C., Hillary went to D.C. and made her money.)
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To: BenLurkin

Kick her ass out on a administrative discharge. For the good of the service. No room for that in the military.


46 posted on 09/22/2016 7:38:47 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: kevcol

No country needs disloyal people in their army.


47 posted on 09/22/2016 7:39:08 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ("Political Correctness is communist propaganda writ small" - Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: kevcol

This is what happens as a result of recruiting people on the basis of what freebies and benefits they can get from the country
by enlisting in the military rather than appealing to their patriotism and the opportunity to serve the nation.

Remember JFK’s inaugural address:

“And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.”

Today the democrats would be embarrassed to have a democrat president utter such a thought.


48 posted on 09/22/2016 7:40:03 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: Secret Agent Man
You give up many constitutional rights in the military.

I am a retired reserve O6. You give up very few rights being in the military. Yeah, you can't just up and quit on a moments notice, but in civilian life you have to do your job, and in most jobs you can't tell your boss to f-off either. In fact in the military you can't be fired the way you can in the civilian world. Disciplined, sure, but it's like extra duty for a first offence, loss of pay, demotion, confinement to the ship. To go to the brig requires court martial generally for a serious crime.

49 posted on 09/22/2016 7:41:07 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: kevcol

GOOD!

Hope it was 7 days in the brig on bread and water.


50 posted on 09/22/2016 7:41:28 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: kevcol

BCD and send her home!


51 posted on 09/22/2016 7:42:07 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: ladyjane

Good point. I was wondering if there was something else behind this story.


52 posted on 09/22/2016 7:42:19 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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To: kevcol

Well honey buns, after your well deserved Bid Chicken Dinner you can make a conscious decision to not stand for the Star Spangled Banner but not while in the uniform you are disgracing.


53 posted on 09/22/2016 7:42:21 PM PDT by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Free Republic? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Dishonorable discharge is right. Make an example of her and force Obama to react.


54 posted on 09/22/2016 7:42:58 PM PDT by Navin Johnson
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To: AndyJackson

There is so much pc bs to put up with and pc s charges that can be brought up, no thanks. Totally hostile environment for Christians as well today. I know military who have left because of it. Its going pagan and pc and homotranny to the max. Its only going to get worse.


55 posted on 09/22/2016 7:43:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: sport
In Obama's Navy, what do you think will happen to this sailor?

NOTHING


56 posted on 09/22/2016 7:44:56 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: PROCON

I wonder what O. will think, the next time he sends people to do ‘Naval Jobs’, or ‘Corpse’-men or or other military to do “Jobs” - and they just make a ‘conscious decision’ to fail to follow custom, discipline, orders?

Jeez.


57 posted on 09/22/2016 7:44:58 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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To: kevcol
Sorry honey...while in uniform you stand! Consider yourself lucky if you *only* lose a stripe,some pay,be restricted to berth and get extra duty.
58 posted on 09/22/2016 7:44:59 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Proud Member Of The "Basket Of Deplorables")
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To: kevcol
the "equipment I need to do my Naval job" was taken away.

What'd they do, take her cell phone?

59 posted on 09/22/2016 7:45:30 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: Alberta's Child

There is always something else behind these stories.

Remember all the Mizzou basketball players. A number of them were on the verge of flunking out. Mezzo doesn’t dare flunk them out now. Their protest worked.


60 posted on 09/22/2016 7:45:30 PM PDT by ladyjane
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