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BREAKING: Supreme Court Defiantly Cuts Legs Off Of NRA With This Historic Ruling (VIDEO)
BiPartisan Report ^ | June 27, 2016 | Pearson McKinney

Posted on 07/01/2016 6:03:23 AM PDT by Kaslin

The Supreme Court of the United States has finally ruled on an issue mentioned in the October 2015 syllabus, and first argued in February of 2016. The decision ruled that people convicted of any domestic abuse crimes can no longer legally own firearms.

The efforts were taken in order to “close a dangerous loophole” that allowed people convicted of “minor” domestic abuse to purchase and own weapons legally. Now, the ban on felons owning firearms has been extended to include people convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence.

Supreme Court documents state:Screen Shot 2016-06-27 at 9.08.29 AMScreenshot via Mother Jones

This is a huge step forward for women’s rights, as more than 1/3 of women who fall victim to homicide, fall victim at the hands of their significant other. According to studies, spouses are the murderers of women 38.6% of time, whereas, for murdered men, it is only 6.3% of their partners who are responsible for their deaths.

Video courtesy of Wochit via YouTube:

Supreme Court Upholds Gun Ban For Domestic Violence Convicts


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; nra; pearsonmckinney; supremcourt
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To: napscoordinator

“...but we are talking mostly Muslims and I’d rather go with safe then (sic) sorry.”

Uh huh. But THEY are talking mostly FReepers, Christians, Constitutionalists (2A defenders!) and Patriots. To THEM, WE are all a bunch of little Timmy Mc Veighs.
The answer to the Muslim problem is restrictions on immigration. Obama upped the quota percentages. We can reverse that.
Wake up, FRiend.


81 posted on 07/01/2016 8:13:59 AM PDT by mumblypeg (Make America Sane Again.)
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To: PilotDave

That was smart of him.


82 posted on 07/01/2016 8:17:36 AM PDT by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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To: napscoordinator

Why stop with terror lists and misdemeanor DV? What about if you get into a scuffle in a bar and get charged with assault? Or DUI? Or what if you get charged with child endangerment because you get a ticket for not having a child in an approved carseat? I could go on...


83 posted on 07/01/2016 8:18:01 AM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: napscoordinator

Why stop with terror lists and misdemeanor DV? What about if you get into a scuffle in a bar and get charged with assault? Or DUI? Or what if you get charged with child endangerment because you get a ticket for not having a child in an approved carseat? I could go on...


84 posted on 07/01/2016 8:18:01 AM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Kaslin

Nah. No “legs cut off the NRA.”

It’s simply saying that convicted spousal abusers can’t own firearms. Seems reasonable.

What *doesn’t* seem reasonable is prohibiting those on the TSA watch list from owning firearms.


85 posted on 07/01/2016 8:19:23 AM PDT by Theo (No tagline for now.)
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To: napscoordinator; Psalm 73
it has to do with lists and god forbid a person may be on it

You do understand that at the end of the day, somebody up in the federal food chain will decide who is on that list, don't you? Have you not already read that gun owning conservative Christians have been labeled "terroristic?"

If govt cared about potential terror attacks they'd be vetting raghead "refugees." Govt isn't vetting raghead refugees, therefore, doesn't really care about potential terror attacks.

Govt is, however, desperate for future tools to muzzle conservatives. Your brand of naivete' is what gets us into trouble in the first place.

86 posted on 07/01/2016 8:25:56 AM PDT by LouAvul (Freedom without responsibility is anarchy.)
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To: Blueflag

Women’s rights? Faux lefty argument.
Think of it this way: Hillary now gets to b!tchslap Bill and hurl ashtrays at his cranium all the live long day, but if Bill picks up the ashtray and chucks it back at her, he gets listed. No glock for you, Bubba!

Malarkey. Women’s rights means more women should arm and train to defend themselves against abusers.


87 posted on 07/01/2016 8:28:31 AM PDT by mumblypeg (Make America Sane Again.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

“Great, now we need a ruling on hammers, baseball bats, kitchen knives, automobiles, plumbing pipes, 2x4’s, ropes, rocks, screw drivers, box cutters, etc. etc. etc.???”

There you go, engaging in that “white privilege” racist logic.”


88 posted on 07/01/2016 8:55:33 AM PDT by odawg
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To: pb929
When people commit crimes they lose some of their rights. It’s not unreasonable to lose your right to own a gun if you were convicted of say, armed robbery.

I don’t see how a conviction for domestic violence is that far off, it’s a violent crime and as such, it’s perpetrator should lose their right to own a gun which would allow them to potentially do more damage the next time they commit the crime...which they probably will.

You do realize that this position is a proponent of if not outright slavery then certainly 2nd-class citizenry.
We talk about a debt to society, but what is a debt that can never be repaid? Surely you've seen some TV show where the acquaintance/friend/coworker/sibling does something that hurts someone and tries to make it up only for that person to refuse to forgive them holding the debt over them. It is like that but without the "happy ending" of eventually obtaining their forgiveness, precisely because the government-as-an-entity doesn't care about you. (And, arguably, about justice; as recent history shows.)

Most of the arguments here center around people being falsely accused or convicted of these crimes, or possibly being convicted for something extremely minor. These are all real concerns but it speaks to a different issue which needs to be addressed regardless of the gun ban.

If someone is falsely convicted of domestic violence, not being able to buy a gun is probably the least of their troubles. It may impact their ability to get/keep a job, may impact their relationships with friends/family/neighbors, etc., as well as many other things. So I say deal with the real problem which is frivolous or vindictive complaints about domestic violence, but make sure those convicted of real crimes do in fact lose their rights.

The underlying issue there is Justice — it simply is not just to convict the innocent.
But it is likewise unjust to have a justice system wherein nothing can be balanced, debts paid off: the Crucifixion of Jesus, the most unjust event in human history, is how a Just God reconciles the debt of sin and provides the propitiation Himself and allowing Him to show His mercy towards mankind.

89 posted on 07/01/2016 8:56:38 AM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: napscoordinator
I know it has to do with lists and god forbid a person may be on it that doesn’t need to be, but we are talking mostly Muslims and I’d rather go with safe then sorry.

Eff, the due process.

May your chains rest lightly.

90 posted on 07/01/2016 9:01:44 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (You all can go to hell, I'm going to Texas.)
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To: MortMan; pb929
>> Personally I think this ruling is quite reasonable.
>
> I disagree. The main issue to me is the conflation of misdemeanor level behavior with felony. Add in the permanency of the ban, and we have the probability that a man (or woman) who loses their temper one time can be permanently prevented from possessing a weapon for self defense.

All that aside, it ignores the fact that the underlying 'law' is contrary to the Constitution.
You see, the Constitution strictly forbids Ex Post Facto law, both at the federal and State level — even by the limited form that the USSC declared wherein only criminal law is so constrained it fails. This is because it added on the prohibition of firearm ownership to people who had already served their sentence or who had been given there sentence and were in the process of paying it off.

Now you might make the argument that it all happened so long ago and all those people are dead (or close to it) and/or a very tiny minority, but that doesn't make the 'law' legitimate.

91 posted on 07/01/2016 9:03:01 AM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: Bogey78O

Hmmm. Honor killings will become domestic abuse or culturally acceptable as ‘just part of the Islamic culture.’


92 posted on 07/01/2016 9:05:35 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Kaslin

Marriage rate is dropping in the US, wonder what this ruling will do to it? Appears to me a man would have to be fool to get married. Old saying If it flys, floats, or f——, rent it.


93 posted on 07/01/2016 9:16:30 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Kaslin

Look for more gun sales to take place from the open trunk of a car.


94 posted on 07/01/2016 9:18:24 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: LouAvul
"Your brand of naivete' is what gets us into trouble in the first place."

HEY, HOLD ON THERE!
You have got the wrong poster, dude.
I am fully aware of what kind of state keeps secret "lists", and their function - Nazis kept them, Soviets kept them, Obozo's banana republic keeps them.
I am many things, but naïve is not one of them.

95 posted on 07/01/2016 9:42:54 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73
I wasn't addressing you. I included you in the ping because you had already pointed out to napscoordinator that his logic is flawed. I was agreeing with you. It's customary on FR to ping those with whom we agree while disagreeing with another poster.

He's the naive one. Anybody who thinks the govt is going to pass a far reaching gun law that is potentially unlimited in scope, and won't use that law to attack legitimate gun owners, is naive. Napscoordinator thinks it will only be used against terrorists.

According to DC, we're the terrorists, and this law will bite us in the end.

96 posted on 07/01/2016 10:13:59 AM PDT by LouAvul (Freedom without responsibility is anarchy.)
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To: Kaslin

So now the woman’s last words will be “You aren’t allowed to have that”.


97 posted on 07/01/2016 10:16:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: Kaslin

bkmk


98 posted on 07/01/2016 10:19:12 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.)
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To: All

In Florida, if a 911 call is made for domestic violence, someone gets charged and goes to jail, period. It’s their way of diffusing the situation. If they left without charging/arresting someone and the fight continued with someone getting seriously hurt or killed, leo could be held responsible. CYA. I have a sister that has a real bad temper, possibly bipolar. She used to throw things at her husband. Dishes mostly. Tried to come at my EX bro in law with things to hit him. As far as I know, the only thing he ever did was grab her wrists to hold her back. My sister is tiny. IF she had ever gotten a scratch and called 911. He would have a DV charge against him from defending himself from her. Small female+photo of bruises/cuts=male gets charged and convicted and gets jail/probation/anger management classes, period. That’s just the way it is in FL and probably many other states.


99 posted on 07/01/2016 10:41:37 AM PDT by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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To: Professional Engineer

Your a Muslim lover. I don’t have time for your type.


100 posted on 07/01/2016 10:50:57 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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