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Ryan confused by great immigration debate
WND ^ | 6/18/2016 | Garth Kant

Posted on 06/18/2016 4:43:55 AM PDT by HomerBohn

Threat to sue Trump over Muslim ban not supported by law or history

WASHINGTON – It takes a list to count all the ways House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wisc., seems to misunderstand the hottest immigration debate in the country.

As WND is reporting, Ryan said, “I would sue any president that exceeds his or her powers,” when discussing with the left-leaning Huffington Post what the website described as GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump’s “proposed Muslim ban.”

However:

•The ban would not exceed the president’s authority, by law . •Even Obama has done it.

•The past six presidents have done it.

•Trump is not calling for a ban on Muslims; he is calling for a pause in immigration from areas with a proven history of terrorism.

•A ban on refugees based on their religion would not be illegal, and is specifically authorized in federal law.

Doesn’t exceed authority

Federal law explicitly gives the president the power and authority to ban various classes of immigrants, as the Daily Caller pointed out Thursday.

The paper reported, Section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 states: “Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”

-snip-

Obama has done it

President Obama has used his authority under this statute not once, not twice, but six times.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

The Redcoats are self-described Pubbies who oppose the Tea Partier rank-and-file every chance they get, and this includes those trying to win locally by distancing themselves from Donald Trump. Hey, I'm coinin' it as far as I know, and hope it catches on. :')
41 posted on 06/18/2016 8:47:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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To: HomerBohn
Trump is not calling for a ban on Muslims; he is calling for a pause in immigration from areas with a proven history of terrorism.

It's not that complicated - Paul doesn't want to understand...

42 posted on 06/18/2016 8:51:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (When a Muslim terrorist shoots up a gay bar, itÂ’s not gun violence.ItÂ’s Islamic terrorism.Greenfie)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; shibumi
Has he been VeriSEALed?

He hasn't claimed to be a SEAL or other SOF...yet.

The claim at issue is being buried for three days in the rubble of the Marine Barracks bombing in Beirut in 1983. The official record shows the last survivor was pulled from the rubble the same day as the bombing, so moped boy is either an undead zombie or he's lying.

43 posted on 06/18/2016 11:01:38 AM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; 50mm; hondact200
"Has he been VeriSEALed?"

While it is true that he has not claimed SOF status (yet) there is another aspect we have not yet delved into in depth.

Hondact200 claims to be a Lutheran Minister.
The last man pulled out of the Marine Corps Barracks was (coincidentally) a Chaplain.
Hondact200 claims to have enlisted in the Marines.
The Chaplain pulled from the Barracks although assigned to a Marine Unit was a Navy Chaplain named Danny Wheeler.

I have asked hondact200 directly if he is Chaplain Danny Wheeler. He has so far refused to answer.

44 posted on 06/18/2016 12:27:39 PM PDT by shibumi (Vampire Outlaw of the Milky Way)
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To: HomerBohn; All

Paul Ryan and the GOP leadership is NOT on our side! NEVER was! NEVER will be! Trump threatens their entire power/profit structure and they will stop him at any cost.

Paul Ryan was brought into DC politics to push amnesty, free trade...by CESAR CONDA. He is OWNED. (Conda is powerful and is Rubio’s chief of staff and an immigration lawyer who destroyed prop 187 in Calif along with Grover Norquist.)

SEE

Thursday, May 05, 2016
Who runs the GOP and owns Paul Ryan & Marco Rubio? Let’s name names!

[snip]
Cesar Conda and his biggest ally, Grover Norquist have an agenda. It is to control the Republican party and the candidates who run in these elections who will implement the policies they want in place to profit their various NON profit scams. They are not conservative or moderate or any other label you can hang on them. They are NOTHING but amoral profiteers having found a gullible constituency in a nation of people easily fooled.

The agenda? Every lopsided, cheap labor ‘trade’ agreement that comes down the pike…Nafta, Gatt, Most favored nation status for China, TPP and on and on. They are actually treaties, but this little group has a congress willing to abdicate it’s power to call them ‘free trade agreements’.

AND

Uncontrolled legal and illegal immigration from South of the border and terrorist Muslim nations. Grover Norquist, married to a Pakistani Muslim who was active in the Bush Administration is the man who LED the push for the Mosque at Ground Zero. Donald Trump is the man who fought it! As Karl Rove, another part of this little K St. GOP power cabal, is proud to say, Norquist ‘brought home the Muslim vote for Bush’. They stocked the various agencies with their people!

They’ve become used to power, and they’re NOT going to give it up easily to the ONE MAN, DONALD TRUMP, who seeks to expose and end this corruption.

These people don’t ‘lobby’ our leaders…they OWN them. They write the legislation! Grover Norquist WROTE George Bush’s amnesty! Conda/Norquist WROTE the gang of 8 amnesty that THEIR little whore Marco Rubio pushed!

They also RUN all your favorite ‘conservative’ institutions who are in your mailbox EVERY day conning you out of money to fund our destruction. And we smile, hope and write the check to:
Americans for Tax Reform, CPAC, The American Conservative Union, Freedomworks, Tea Party Express, Tea Party Patriots, Heritage, CLUB FOR GROWTH, the NRSC, NRCC and SO many more!

Every candidate PROMISED to support the GOP nominee and DEMANDED that Donald Trump SIGN and agree to do the same. Many are breaking that pledge.
Trump has kept his word.

EVERY candidate, save ONE, also PLEDGED their allegiance to Grover Norquist when they signed his infamous ‘pledge’. He OWNS your GOP congress. He OWNS over 1300 STATE legislators! IF you don’t do what the Grover Club tells you to, you will never win another election. They have taken out many good candidates.

Donald Trump is the ONLY presidential GOP candidate who has not signed that UNAMERICAN oath and onto Grover/Conda’s agenda.
NONE of this is a secret! SO many of us have tried for years to expose this stinking mess!
To be sure, Norquist, Conda, Rove are not the only ones. But they are generals in their sovereignty destroying army. They involve lobbyist run Tea Parties to confuse the grass roots, Ralph Reed and his Christian Coalition to confuse the faithful, Steven Moore who is head economist of Heritage and mouthpieces like Hugh Hewitt and likely Levin, Limbaugh, Beck and others to fool the talk radio audience. [snip]

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2016/05/who-runs-gop-and-owns-paul-ryan-marco.html


45 posted on 06/18/2016 12:29:40 PM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: shibumi; ROCKLOBSTER; hondact200

Maybe there’s a new branch of service that combines the Navy and Marines for purposes of exaggeration?

Did moped boy claim to have enlisted? Chaplains are commissioned officers so that would be another inconsistency. Although I’m sure the Marinavy could have recognized moped’s brilliance and sent him to OCS.


46 posted on 06/18/2016 4:19:45 PM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: Zenjitsuman

Judas Ryan? It fits that man and McConnell to boot.


47 posted on 06/18/2016 6:13:36 PM PDT by kindred (Time for a third party for Christians and conservatives and overtaxed patriots.)
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To: HomerBohn

Paul Ryan is Obamas boy. Make no bones about it. He needs to go.


48 posted on 06/19/2016 5:06:44 AM PDT by connyankee (Cannot stand Fox News. A pack of wolves, they be.)
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To: Travis McGee
Evidently the full-body spandex suit Professor Teufelsdrock wove for Ryan and the RINOs has constricted the blood flow to their little heads - and their brains!


49 posted on 06/19/2016 5:26:20 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: connyankee

The evil of Obama is infectious.

Here we have a perverted foreign exchange student catapulted into the White Hut by an insidious cabal of those who desire the destruction of America and those Republicrat RINO nitwits who are accomplices!

He has a few more months to assist the nation in bleeding out and his continued evildoings are abetted by a political party many of us believed was patriotic and Conservative.


50 posted on 06/19/2016 5:35:59 AM PDT by HomerBohn (Liberals and Slinkys: Good for nothing but make you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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To: wastoute
If Hillary wins, republicans will cry and moan about how they are treated and ask us to donate and support them.

Sorry boys, now is your one and only chance to beat her. But instead you are intent on defeating her opponent, Donald Trump. You dont like the fact that Donald is a party crasher, not one who has butt kissed his way into your fraternity.

So dont pretend you can't live with Hillary. You are fully engaged in electing her.

51 posted on 06/19/2016 6:16:18 AM PDT by Awgie (Progressives should be called RE-GRESSIVES!)
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To: Awgie

Can’t be repeated enough.


52 posted on 06/19/2016 6:29:20 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: HomerBohn

Ryan is just another establishment liberal.


53 posted on 06/19/2016 7:33:29 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (This posting is a microaggression.)
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To: All

Ryan and most of DC, lost in space.


54 posted on 06/19/2016 12:12:03 PM PDT by veracious
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To: RetiredArmy
No, this nation is finished.

With all due respect, sir.

Not while this old sailor's still upright, can find some means to engage and not then until one hell of a fight.

55 posted on 06/19/2016 12:15:02 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (Smile. It'll drive people nuts trying to figure out what you know or have done.)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

I hear you and I feel the same way, but sadly, we are the very few and we are against the horde. We are against the wall. We have a musket and they have the repeater rifles. We are the few and the proud as the jarheads say, but we that is the tail of the tape. We are like Custer against the many.


56 posted on 06/20/2016 4:16:21 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Read 1 Corinthians 15: verses 1-4. This is the Gospel of Grace, the ONLY WAY TO BE SAVED!!)
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To: HomerBohn

Thankfully, many of us believe them no longer. Frankly I think the Bushes the Clintons... I think they were in league all along and even before them... I think the Republicans and Democrats get together every couple of years and decide who’s going to take over the white house for a while and they just come up with a plan and they carry it out together
I’m absolutely convinced of it! I don’t think there are two parties-I think there’s one group of people-elitists, who have basically stolen our country from us over many, many years.
I realize that may sound a bit insane but I just don’t trust anyone in our government at all anymore and that is why I’m so strongly behind Donald Trump...he is absolutely not corruptible.


57 posted on 06/20/2016 3:37:51 PM PDT by connyankee (Cannot stand Fox News. A pack of wolves, they be.)
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To: HomerBohn; AuntB

’ Ryan confused by great immigration debate’

When you’re an Open Borders, US Chamber of Commerce, sock puppet for Cesar Conda and Grover Norquist, then of course anything short of Treason confuses you.


58 posted on 06/20/2016 9:32:15 PM PDT by Pelham (Obama and his Islam infested administration)
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To: Travis McGee
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59 posted on 06/20/2016 9:42:16 PM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: connyankee

Bush II, Obama, Hillary, many Repubicrat traitors are members of the same cabal.


60 posted on 06/21/2016 7:04:20 AM PDT by HomerBohn (Liberals and Slinkys: Good for nothing but make you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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