Posted on 04/09/2016 9:00:02 PM PDT by Enlightened1
The Republican party is not winnning friends or influencing people by saying to the Republican voters in 2016 your vote no long counts. Think about it!
The popular vote has always been honored by the Delegates unless it was very, very close like in 1952. We have a public election. We have all this money being spent. We have false advertising that say things like, “go vote”, “one man one vote”, “one woman one vote”, “every vote counts”, “you decide 2008”, “you decide 2012” and “you decide 2016”.
Now because the Establishment candidates have lost in the Republican Primary.... They are saying oh no because we changed the rules a way back, and because we lost we are not going to let you win! The Republican Party in 2016 is saying to the Republican voters that your vote no longer counts. I believe that is indefensible!
Even when the parties claim they have all this internal power. When the parties hold themselves out as a public watch dog on tv and radio. When they hold themselves out with this it is false advertising! I can show all the instances of “Your vote counts. Come join our party”. This is public fraud, and it’s very dangerous to VOID the votes and discard the WILL of the people. I can see this even leading to possible class action law suits for false advertising.
In any event, if we sit by and do not get upset, then it will normalize these Establishment fat cats who claim they now APPOINT who can run for office. If you select the candidates, then is that not a form of canceling the 2016 election? Therefore, we just wil have ceremonial events every four years instead of actual elections. Furthermore, are we not just like communist China where the party appoints its own Presidents and successors vs. having a real Primary where every vote counts?
We the people are not their subjects or surfs. The government are the servants to the people. That is what we learn in the Delcartion of Indepence, the U.S. Constitutuon and the Bill of Rights. If this Venezuelan/North Korean/Cuban corrupt election is allowed to get away with this, then what is next to fall? I think this country will turn into a banana republic.
I can’t express to you how disappointed I am with many so called patriots on TV and radio that cavalierly dismiss this as no big deal. My guess is they are either completely out of touch with reality or they are working for the other side.
I just don’t like that the RNC imagines that they can pick the nominee, even someone who wasn’t in the primaries. Do you?
And so is Cruz, because he’ll have far less. Same thing for KaSICKO.
Have you ever noticed how uneducated, barely illiterate, easily fooled, political naifs the Cruz supporters are?
Fine, fine. I care about some cat playing himself on pro-wrestling, and then wanting to president. I would vote for him, if it comes down to it as it seems it will.
But holy cow he is an extreme orange wierdo. It isn’t normal, come on. Pretending that this stuff isn’t weird is ridiculous.
Freegards
What's wrong with pro-wrestling? Everyone watched it, when T.V. was "new" and EVERYONE, even little kids, knew it wasn't real and just a show.
Perhaps more germane to your low-information, you must have missed this news item which refers to the FIRST BALLOT votes/delegates, which Cruz is going after:
In case you missed this widely reported story:
A Republican National Committee Standing Rules Committee member told the membership Friday that convention delegates are not bound to cast their votes at the convention according to primary vote results in the first round of voting.
Curly Haugland of North Dakota, a long time member of the RNC Standing Rules Committee, sent a letter to the RNC membership at large about this issue. He explained how he came to the conclusion that all Republican delegates who participate in the 2016 Republican National Convention are unbound on each ballot round, including the first.
Lining up previously Trump-committed FIRST BALLOT delegates is what Cruz is doing.
Please get fully informed via readily available information on the Internet before wasting the moment it takes for the reader to realize you are a Cruzer and therefore will say ANYTHING and pull anything out of your a$$ if it helps your Cruz argument, despite that you've never researched it or any other relevant information about this campaign and its candidates for 3 seconds. Take a week off and READ READ READ on the Internet. That would be my very honest suggestion to you and all the no-info Cruzers on so many subjects, not the least of which is the issue of "natural born citizen."
FINALLY----if you refuse to inform yourself, let's compromise, and you promise to research and understand EXACTLY now Cruz sneaked in TPA and TPP, which Cruz did using cloture rules and various other parlimentary procedcures to remove from Congressional approval or change TPP, which Ted and Heidi, Goldman Sachs, Robert Zoellnick (father of NAFTA), crony capitalists everywhere, the Cheap Labor Express and open borders supporters everywhere...
And it lays the foundation for the North American Union, fully developed and planned by Heidi Cruz while she and Ted were working for years in high positions at the Bush White House. The plan was, and maybe is, that Cruz will be the Supreme Leader of the North American Union, since he isn't legally elligible to be either US Senator or US President. All NAU borders will be obliterated, and all WORKERS from signatory countries can enter the USA and take jobs. AND Cruz stealthily got TPA passed so that CHINA can come in and congress can't stop them.
We have about 150 million jobs in the USA. Chinese and Indians will get ALL of these jobs under TPA. Those countries additionally face no tariffs or taxes on ANYTHING they wish to sell here, but US Exports we wish to sell there are either banned outright, or have applied to them a prohibitive tax/tariff making them prohibited de facto.
Is it a "criminal act", or against the law to appear on a wrestling show, or a program about making deals and winning a mionetary prize, that goes to a legal charity ?
Let me see if I can clarify:
If Trump has 1237 votes at the convention then your vote counts.
If Trump does not have 1237 votes at the convention but wins on the second, third ballot, etc. your vote counts.
If anybody but Trump wins your vote doesn’t count. So only if Trump is the nominee does your vote count.
I’ve unfortunately voted in a lot of elections that by your standard my vote didn’t count. Join the club...
Yet there are delegates who are not bound to honoring the vote. They are free to vote any way they wish. Is this not true ?
Dude, why go on this dog squeeze when you are already an obviously smart and succesful business man and you don’t have to? Just answer the question, like I want to. Seriously give me an answer, why do it?
Freehgards
Also there is this from post 66.
“A Republican National Committee Standing Rules Committee member told the membership Friday that convention delegates are not bound to cast their votes at the convention according to primary vote results in the first round of voting. “
You sound like the stupid lefties who made fun of Reagan having appeared in the movie "BEDTIME FOR BONZO", which had him taking care of a chimpanzee.
It should bother you far more that KaSICKO belonged to the YOUNG TURKS S&M CLUB, when he was in Congress and was BFF with Condit!
How about Cruz being joined at the hip with Crazy Glenn Beck and actually taking some crazy, supposed presidential oath of office, ON A COMPASS, given him by Glenn, in front of an audience, when he hasn't won ANYTHING yet!
Or a young Cruz haunting the halls of a mixed dorm, wearing just a bathrobe and toddling over to the girls' side.
So if Kasich (yuck agreed) Trump and Cruz are mathematically eliminated does that mean Jeb is our guy?
I mean he like didn’t get any I remember and spent a gazillion dollars on it. So he has literally got a divide by zero problem and that makes him the only mathematically undefined candidate, on a dollar per vote basis.
I should have put mega hurl somewhere before now...right?
DK
Partial:
I think Cruz is going after delegates he didn’t win to try to pull-off a 1st Ballot win at the Convention provided he can prevent Mr. Trump from garnering his 1237.
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Well if the Delegates are NOT going to honor their vote, like they always have unless it was very, very close, then why even hold a Primary Election or an election? What is the point?
not a dude... a dudette.
There is no point. The GOP is dead.
In many of the photos he has looked orange to me until recently. He has looked much less orange to me in the last few weeks. Fair enough.
Dude, Reagan acted as his job. Trump is a legitimate business man, apart from reality TV and Pro-wrestling. Why do this culture killing drek when you don’t have to? It’s not that hard a question.
Freegards
Why do some people climb mountains where many have died?
Why try to circumnavigate the oceans of the world alone?
Why go surfing in shark infested water?
Why go on THE PRICE IS RIGHT, BEAT THE CLOCK, WHAT'S MY LINE, LAUGH IN, or any T.V. show that has ever been on the air, where regular people went on every week, as did some very famous people too?
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