Posted on 03/20/2016 2:57:17 PM PDT by central_va
The United States is rapidly becoming the very first "post-industrial" nation on the globe. All great economic empires eventually become fat and lazy and squander the great wealth that their forefathers have left them, but the pace at which America is accomplishing this is absolutely amazing. It was America that was at the forefront of the industrial revolution.
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Yep. Isn’t that what I said?
I don't need to quote anything else on the stupid front...
1865, 1870. You consider that "recently"?
Honestly, I think we are both wasting our time. Once you get like this person, more interested in winning an argument than in making sense or being factually correct, there’s nothing else to be gained.
The positive thing is that we don’t have to worry about any economic competition from that front. The sad thing is, he probably votes...
The subject at hand is Tariffs placed on imports. Again, up until the 1970's America...from the beginning...had generally high tariffs and that certainly was a factor in America becoming an industrial powerhouse.
Free trade has decimated our manufacturing base and America is a debtor nation in all regards. It's no accident. Bad trade policy is at the root of our economic problems.
Yeah, on another thread he railed against the evil of profits and capitalism. A lot of these protectionists are anti-American and actually want the destruction of America and it's capitalist ways.
If Poland puts a tariff on sugar cane this will never ever promote the domestic Polish sugar can industry because you can never grow sugar cane in Poland. It just isn’t possible. But you can build all the factories you want in Poland and tariffs work much differently for manufactured goods that they do for agricultural goods. Even a Democrat could see the difference. But somehow you can’t. You must be another delusional Free Traitor™.
History is known to repeat itself, so your premise there is spurious, since it would render studying any history pointless. That there is a strong positive correlation between protective tariffs and the industrialization of the US in the late 1800s is considered likely by most historians. That Great Britain, following a practice of free trade, was eclipsed as the leading economic power by the US around 1900, is an indicator that free trade is not an entirely desirable situation. Are they absolutely the cause- not entirely. But that they are part of the picture is undeniable. At present, we have few barriers on trade, and negligible growth in our domestic economy. Logic would indicate a return to a former policy to achieve similar results.
Post where that happened.
You said by 1865 it was down to 25%. Then you jumped to 1945. You cherry picked the data grabbing the low point to make you disingenuous point. BusTED.
Goofball posted the chart. Can you not see that tariffs have been below 10% since the 1940s? I don't consider the 1940s "recently".
The subject at hand is Tariffs placed on imports. Again, up until the 1970's America...from the beginning...had generally high tariffs and that certainly was a factor in America becoming an industrial powerhouse.
No, tariffs have been below 10% since the 1940s. Like I said, you need to reread your tariff history.
Free trade has decimated our manufacturing base and America is a debtor nation in all regards. It's no accident. Bad trade policy is at the root of our economic problems.
You protectionists act as if the only economic policy passed since the 40s was NAFTA. You ignore two anti-America presidents, Clinton and Obama, trying to destroy business every way they can, the dumbing down of our children in the public schools, the out of control EPA regulations shutting down manufacturing, the high corporate taxes, the movement of millions of people to the welfare and disability roles, the expansion of our debt through a bloated government, the loss of freedom, the land grabs and the high property taxes resulting rom that, high energy costs by government over-involvement in energy, the union-friendly policies of the last 70 years. Fix some of these and we can trade with anyone. Tariffs will only add to our demise forcing even more businesses to offshore to avoid their partners paying higher tariffs.
Do you deny it?
Coming from a Free Traitor™ I will take that as a compliment.
I didn't cherry pick. It jumped around and in 1865 or so it hit 25%. Later it hit less then 25%, then later it hit less than 1%. What's your problem?
Yes we balance the budget, the Treasury stops having to sell T-Bills and we are on our way to a strong dollar, repatriation of industry and clear sailing.
You're an anti-capitalist traitor that want the breakup of America. Do you deny that you want states to secede from the union?
How convenient that 1865 was the low point for around 100 years. You lie just like Ted does just not as well.
As long as my new country doesn't have you in it I am good.
Where did you get that?
Trump is the last chance to save the USA in its current configuration.
Ultimately the only way to free ourselves from the gloBULList cabal that is hollowing out the American economy, bankrupting us and destroying our opportunity to live as free prosperous adults would be to secede from FedGov™. That's the way I see it anyway.
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