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Yet Another poll suggests Trump will lose to Clinton in a general election
Hotair ^ | 03/09/2016 | John Sexton

Posted on 03/09/2016 1:56:08 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Earlier today Ed Morrissey wrote about a new NBC/WSJ poll showing Donald Trump could lose to Hillary Clinton by double digits in a general election. An ABC/Washington Post poll also published today has similar findings:

Should this matchup come about, the current advantage is Clinton’s. She leads Trump by 50-41 percent in vote preference among registered voters, her widest advantage in three ABC/Post polls since September. Among all adults, including those currently not registered, Clinton’s lead swells to 54-36 percent. And the public by 59-36 percent predicts that Clinton would win — up from a 12-point gap on this question in January to 23 points today. (Some political scientists suggest that, early on, expectations outdo preferences, predictively.)

If you’re keeping track, 50-41 is actually a better result for Trump than the NBC poll which has the matchup at 51-38. Still, looking at the details it’s not hard to see why Trump is in trouble. He trails Clinton in almost every personal metric including honesty:

ABCNewspoll

The big one though might be empathy. You may recall that Obama’s re-election race in 2012 became a contest between Mitt Romney the competent manager and Barack Obama the likable, empathetic President. On the question of who really cares about people “like you” Obama always had the advantage. And as it happened a major storm hitting the east coast days before the election gave Obama a chance to demonstrate that empathy for voters.

There’s a reason Hillary is touring the country saying things like, “I believe what we need in America today is more love and kindness.” That’s not a policy it’s a pose. But the important point is she’s doing it because it has frequently worked in the past and will probably work again in 2016.

Trump does a little better when it comes to policy areas, though here again he is trailing on every issue including immigration:

ABCNewspoll2

Now it’s certainly possible that some of the 1,000 respondents to this poll have a detailed knowledge of both Trump’s and Clinton’s positions on each one of these issues. However, I suspect it’s more likely that the majority of respondents are giving a gut response answer based on a few things they’ve heard, i.e. Trump wants to ban Muslims and deport immigrants while Hillary was Secretary of State. Those factoids become the basis of answers to questions about terrorism, immigration and international crisis. And as ABC points out, a majority of Americans don’t like some of Trump’s most discussed ideas:

Trump’s challenged, as well, by the fact that Americans by 63-33 percent oppose his suggestion to temporarily ban Muslims from entering the country, and by 61-36 percent disagree with the mass deportation of undocumented immigrants. Those views are closer among registered voters, but still with majorities opposed, 60 and 58 percent, respectively.

The strength and boldness of these positions obviously appeals to a plurality of GOP voters, but a majority of Americans probably just see them as unkind. And in a general election, unkindness loses to the person talking however ham-handedly about “love and kindness.”

To further the point, where Trump does appear to do well is where he expresses his own version of love and kindness. Maybe you’re thinking he’s not doing that at all but you’d be wrong. When it comes to veterans, who he promises to take care of, when it comes to people who have lost jobs to outsourcing who he promises to help find jobs for again–Trump does express empathy for people and it does draw people to him. In fact, Trump’s frequent focus on trade issues and the need to do better for people struggling in a stagnant economy is probably why he is so competitive with Clinton on the economy in this poll.

This election isn’t a battle of detailed policy positions. Hillary Clinton knows that. At base, what is working (and also not working) for Trump is the same thing working for Clinton. The person elected in 2016 is probably going to be the person who is strong, competent but who really seems to care about the issues (lack of jobs, poor treatments of vets, etc.) that matter to the largest share of the electorate.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; fakepoll; generalelections; poll; trump
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To: kik5150
The establishment is cementing behind Cruz not because they want to support his candidacy but because they know Trump can’t win the general in November.

It could not possibly be just just plane junk too. Sure, people are doing the Trump campaign a favor. Like Democraps telling the E-pubs how they should run because this group or that group will be mad.

121 posted on 03/09/2016 5:48:54 PM PST by luv2ndamend (Same party, different letter. When the shtf, hug a politician.)
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To: SeekAndFind

HONEST?!?!?!?


122 posted on 03/09/2016 5:49:14 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Does she have to show you the bullet scars to prove it?


123 posted on 03/09/2016 5:50:33 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

Is that rain I feel on my back?


124 posted on 03/09/2016 5:53:37 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

bttt.


125 posted on 03/09/2016 5:56:00 PM PST by unsycophant
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To: demshateGod

“Anyone who think Drumpf will ever be president is a blithering idiot.”

If he does, though, what will that make YOU?


126 posted on 03/09/2016 6:08:21 PM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: LS

Polls that had Trump winning Iowa by 5-8 points,
and that was a few days before the election.

But we are supposed to believe a poll for an election 9 months away? Yeah right!


127 posted on 03/09/2016 6:50:33 PM PST by entropy12 (When you vote, you are actually voting for the rich donors!)
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To: Parley Baer

RE: For the nth time the WSJ/NBC poll has not credibility.

This is not a WSJ/NBC Poll. Please at least read the first paragraph.


128 posted on 03/09/2016 7:09:23 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
LOL! Haw haw!

Another FR thread just totally exposed this push poll for the manipulative propaganda that it is.

Many Trump-haters on FR are drinking the Establishment kool aid by citing these utterly discredited, worthless, agenda-driven push polls.

129 posted on 03/09/2016 7:30:14 PM PST by sargon
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To: VideoDoctor

Well, if you’re going to get technical.


130 posted on 03/09/2016 7:49:14 PM PST by JaguarXKE (n1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men d)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s what polls 10 months out will give you....NOTHING...I want to see debates between Clinton and Trump...I don’t see it as even being a challenge.


131 posted on 03/09/2016 8:07:02 PM PST by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

:Id like to know how both match up in states like Michigan, Florida, Ohio, and Virginia.”

Hillary beats Cruz in: FL, OH, PA, MI.

Trump beats Hillary in : FL, OH, Tied in PA, down 5 in MI

National polls are irrelevant, Prez is picked state by state.


132 posted on 03/10/2016 2:12:00 AM PST by JPJones
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To: theoilpainter

“So how long are we to ignore these polls, or write them off to anti establishment paranoia? Fact is, Trump is the weakest candidate vs Clinton, and would loose head to head to any other Republican in the race. I find it hard to believe that we can nominate someone who only gets, soaking wet, only 40% of the Republican vote, and is openly opposed by the other 60%.”

A very nice synopsis of democrat/GOPe talking points.


133 posted on 03/10/2016 2:18:05 AM PST by JPJones
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To: JPJones

If it has ‘NBC/WSJ poll’ just go to the next article, or read a fairy tale.


134 posted on 03/10/2016 5:19:08 AM PST by R Rogers
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To: avenir

There is absolutely not question about it. To think otherwise is testimony that Trumpism is a cult.


135 posted on 03/10/2016 7:02:06 AM PST by demshateGod (Trump: We will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity)
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To: neverbluffer

My observation says nothing about my intelligence because being smarter than 20 million Americans is no great feat.


136 posted on 03/10/2016 7:03:41 AM PST by demshateGod (Trump: We will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity)
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To: SeekAndFind

Polls about the general election match up between non existent nominees at this point are worthless. When each party picks a candidate then the polls on match ups will become more accurate.


137 posted on 03/10/2016 7:10:06 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: JPJones

In this instance, the “democrat/GOPe talking points” are correct. Fact is, I have yet to see a poll that has Trump beating Clinton, or any indication that Trump has broad support within the GOP.

Anti-establishment paranoia isn’t my thing. I reminds me of the left in the 60”s.


138 posted on 03/10/2016 9:49:33 AM PST by theoilpainter
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump has beaten and continues to beat all of hos rivals all across the country. Dems had a record low turnout and republicans had a record high turnout. It does not compute that he cannot beat hillary.


139 posted on 03/10/2016 9:52:50 AM PST by jersey117
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To: theoilpainter

, I have yet to see a poll that has Trump beating Clinton, “

Then you’re low information.


140 posted on 03/10/2016 11:43:25 AM PST by JPJones
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